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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -ISakuraS-



I agree.. I don't like dubbed movies..

I am sure..

Any big cuts scene wise? I know of certain ones but want to know if u noticed anything..



I noticed a few cuts here and there in the Tamil version 😳
As of now, I can only remember that Kanna nee thoongada was shorter in the Tamil one.
I'll have to watch the movie a second time to exactly remember the other scenes. I was lost in Prabhas' lalaland you see 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ArYa.Kmkv




Exactly, her guilty trip started when Bhalla told her not to compensate him with gifts because Baahu'd got the Kingdom. He said Sivagami can never be wrong. Baahu said she was wrong.
Since Bhalla didn't want any of the rich gifts she offered him, she was just glad enough that he asked for something and she was happy to offer it. To her, Devasena was just a Princess and none would refuse to marry her sons, so she confidently promised him to get him Devasena. As you correctly said, she failed to see that Devasena was also a human, a woman and had a right to chose her husband.
This was between Bhalla, Sivagami and Devasena. She shouldn't have involved Baahu in this even if he was in the same place as hers.


I know.. but I understand that guilt trip. As a mother, she may've felt bad that one of her son was getting the crown and other one is not - They both grew up wanting to be the king & so she can understand Bhalla would be disappointed. She would've done the same if Bhalla had got the crown & not Baahu... Though she made the correct decision as a Rajamatha, she was a mother too.. and so she felt bad.. That's understandable. She tried to make up for it.. Understandable. And she immediately accepted when he asked for Devasena - Wrong but understandable.. it was the mother in her! Fine - she sent that proposal - Wrong but understandable.. But reacting this way to Devasena's rejection = FIRST time she was WRONG completely.. n no excuse!

Exactly! Even if they had involved Baahu - it should've been as a brother of Bhalla, not as part of Maahishmathi army/king! That is totally wrong.. she used her power as Rajamatha in a personal matter! Misuse of power!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -ISakuraS-


@bold - I know that's like the whole point of the story.. I mean Amarendra dying n Mahendra born @ same time or how Mahendra carries forward legacy of Baahubali but I don't know.. I can't get myself to consider Mahendra = rebirth of Amarendra..




Neither can I accept it. And Devasena who was punished for 25 years. What wrong did she do to deserve such a severe chastisement? 😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
I agree about Sivagami and Katappa. They are such characters that despite what they did, we can't hate them completely because they did genuinely love Bahu throughout his life. Sivagami lost her senses for the last year of Bahu's life, and Katappa though he didn't lose his senses, he killed the one person who loved him the most in Mahishmati, all in the name of 'dharma' which really wasn't dharma at all.

In the Mahabharata, Lord Krishna explains to Bhishma that there is no one definition for dharma. It changes with every situation, and thus it is wrong to make a vow that binds one's hands. In fact, keeping one's vow in cases where an innocent person is being persecuted, such as Draupadi's humiliation in the dyut sabha, or Bhishma kidnapping the three Kasi princesses on the command of his mother, is wrong, and thus Bhishma was killed in the manner he was.

Likewise, Katappa may have been bound in a vow of servitude to the throne of Mahishmati, but he should have broken his vow rather than killing Bahubali simply because it was a "royal order". I really loved the bond between him and Bahu throughout the second movie, but that one act of his made me really disappointed in and angry at his character.

Still, I cannot hate him or Sivagami, because while they had bad qualities, they also had an incredible amount of love to give. Sadly, they lost sight of themselves in the end, though I suppose they both redeemed themselves somewhat, Sivagami by saving Mahendra at the cost of her own life, and Katappa by helping Mahendra kill Bhalla.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ArYa.Kmkv



I noticed a few cuts here and there in the Tamil version 😳
As of now, I can only remember that Kanna nee thoongada was shorter in the Tamil one.
I'll have to watch the movie a second time to exactly remember the other scenes. I was lost in Prabhas' lalaland you see 😆




DId they have that paragraph in Telugu (the whole bit - pothum Kanna nee seiyum thiruttu)?

I completely understand! 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ArYa.Kmkv




Neither can I accept it. And Devasena who was punished for 25 years. What wrong did she do to deserve such a severe chastisement? 😭


Exactly! except for falling in love with Amarendra & standing by him at every step!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -ISakuraS-



I know.. but I understand that guilt trip. As a mother, she may've felt bad that one of her son was getting the crown and other one is not - They both grew up wanting to be the king & so she can understand Bhalla would be disappointed. She would've done the same if Bhalla had got the crown & not Baahu... Though she made the correct decision as a Rajamatha, she was a mother too.. and so she felt bad.. That's understandable. She tried to make up for it.. Understandable. And she immediately accepted when he asked for Devasena - Wrong but understandable.. it was the mother in her! Fine - she sent that proposal - Wrong but understandable.. But reacting this way to Devasena's rejection = FIRST time she was WRONG completely.. n no excuse!

Exactly! Even if they had involved Baahu - it should've been as a brother of Bhalla, not as part of Maahishmathi army/king! That is totally wrong.. she used her power as Rajamatha in a personal matter! Misuse of power!



She had been wrong in everything since the proposal incident. The Rajamata inside her vanished, it was only the mother. Feeling injustice to her 1st son, she completely pushed away the second one. Finally she got neither. Her favorite was executed because she ordered it, the other one didnt care one bit about her, in fact was ready to killl her; was a traitor.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: ..RamKiJanaki..

I agree about Sivagami and Katappa. They are such characters that despite what they did, we can't hate them completely because they did genuinely love Bahu throughout his life. Sivagami lost her senses for the last year of Bahu's life, and Katappa though he didn't lose his senses, he killed the one person who loved him the most in Mahishmati, all in the name of 'dharma' which really wasn't dharma at all.

In the Mahabharata, Lord Krishna explains to Bhishma that there is no one definition for dharma. It changes with every situation, and thus it is wrong to make a vow that binds one's hands. In fact, keeping one's vow in cases where an innocent person is being persecuted, such as Draupadi's humiliation in the dyut sabha, or Bhishma kidnapping the three Kasi princesses on the command of his mother, is wrong, and thus Bhishma was killed in the manner he was.

Likewise, Katappa may have been bound in a vow of servitude to the throne of Mahishmati, but he should have broken his vow rather than killing Bahubali simply because it was a "royal order". I really loved the bond between him and Bahu throughout the second movie, but that one act of his made me really disappointed in and angry at his character.

Still, I cannot hate him or Sivagami, because while they had bad qualities, they also had an incredible amount of love to give. Sadly, they lost sight of themselves in the end, though I suppose they both redeemed themselves somewhat, Sivagami by saving Mahendra at the cost of her own life, and Katappa by helping Mahendra kill Bhalla.


I loved the bond between Kattappa-Baahu & Baahu-Sivagami.. It was beautiful and that's what made it painful to see them backstab him - be responsible for his tragic end!

Kattappa should've broken his vow! Is the vow more important than the life of a pure soul like Amarendra? & lives of Devasena & Mahendra?

Exactly - they only redeemed themselves somewhat... not completely.. but that doesn't change the fact I loved their bond with Baahu!
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: -ISakuraS-


Exactly! except for falling in love with Amarendra & standing by him at every step!


Katappa has done wrong in this aspect too. His blind devotion to the throne of Mahishmati, even after the guilt and anger he felt at killing Bahu, was totally misplaced and unexpected of him. He didn't do anything to help Devasena in those 25 years.

I remember Devasena refusing to go until her son came and killed Bhalla, but if Katappa raised his voice against Bhalla fresh after Bahu's death, I know the citizens in their anger would have stood with him, and witnessing such a revolt might have caused Bhalla to think twice about imprisoning and torturing Devasena.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Push-pull

Wow.. This is so Woooww.. 👏 Enjoyed watching it.. That shows the power of the music along with the bravery and emotions the movie has stuck upon the audience.. 🥳


man that's so cool!!

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