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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: angrybread

Damage control reason is the one which gets to me in this matterwhy not just accept it .

Accept what??? (a) Aamir bought it or (b) Awards are always as according to the preferences of the jury, so the award buying theory/FF giving it to their favorites is crap manufactured by bitter losers like Ajay Devgn, Aamir Khan and Akshay Kumar.
If it is number one, what will Aamir gain?? He will gain nothing?? See technically he will gain nothing.

If it is number two what about the stories of Anil's bribed win, Rajesh Khanna's refusal for attendance without award or Rishi Kapoor buying it. Or the rumours of Shahrukh's wins for DDLJ and KKHH being biasedness personification. Especially the case of Anil and Rishi Kapoor who have themselves accepted it. Also the sudden inclusion of Manoj shows that backlash theory has some truth. It is obvious that awards are available to be bought or atleast given to who came to perform or favoured ones, if not awards atleast a huge part of nomination process is for pleasing people rather than merit. It is not just media or fan fabricated BS, but also confirmed by many stars including your favorite Shahrukh Khan himself.

I think there is a very thin line between the truth and assumptions which should not be neglected or ridiculed in fan wars. Your complaint about Aamir fans hypocrisy or irony would have been apt if they would been celebrating or ridiculing SRK, which they are not doing, they are still calling the commercial awards BS. I understand some of the SRK haters have fuelled the topic in the early days by saying SRK will dance his way in FF, but majority of the outrage(or in your words cribbing) was for neglecting Manoj, Swara, Dangal girls, Radhika, Randeep, Akki, Sultan and so on. Most of the people complained about AB Sr's probable win as best actor and RKapoors inclusion. While blant promotion of Anu and Alia by Kjo were also annoyed people.
Poeple in general did not had problem with SRK's nomination in FF, the problem people had was SRK being at top in Raja's list, which is another topic, which I have seen you, pallavi-ji and DZ mixing up with FF nominations "cribbing". The issue with the list and with the FF nominations are totally different. I understand you guys are annoyed by constant mocking of SRK's award wins, but it is also a thing that you guys confuse his mocking for winning awards for cheesy roles like KKHH, DDLJ, Devdas and DTPH, with his wins for Chak De and Swades, also MNIK. Yes few weirdos discredit even those, but you cannot blame everyone for that. I think this mocking of all fans because of few weirdos should stop. Yes me myself I have been a part of it, but later on I realised it is wrong on my part, especially the ridiculing of Deepika and SRK fans I did because of few weirdos.
I have seen you, Yammy, DZ and pallavi-ji(yes I am taking direct names rather than stupid indirect digs) generally being against everyone who is against the award system this year. Be it fans here or Amaal or Aamir. Also funny thing is you guys yourself especially you and Yammy think awards sucks, so for whom are we fighting??? I think there is enough evidence that awards shows are tweaked for pleasing industry walas/fans and lobbying to a great extent, and there is no doubt about it. Yes even Aamir's and especially Manoj's win no matter how deserving is a pleasing act for me especially after the social media backlash post nomination announcement. Anyways parting words (yes restricted posting due to one of you SRK fans reporting me, hehe just kidding, dont take it seriously) is IMO is awards are rigged, filled with bias and lobbying, sometimes they get it right, sometimes unfair one wins, while sometimes they are forced to change their decision. We fans idiots become happy if the performances we liked win, while performances which we didn't find deserving make us crib. And this has nothing to do with my fabs, as one of them will never any award, maybe if best item song performers award is made, while other will rather take cash than awards.😆
Bye love you allz dont kill me, as I have to watch your fab's movie Raaes on 26th.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Love_Katty_24-7

[ Accept what??? (a) Aamir bought it or (b) Awards are always as according to the preferences of the jury, so the award buying theory/FF giving it to their favorites is crap manufactured by bitter losers like Ajay Devgn, Aamir Khan and Akshay Kumar.
If it is number one, what will Aamir gain?? He will gain nothing?? See technically he will gain nothing.

If it is number two what about the stories of Anil's bribed win, Rajesh Khanna's refusal for attendance without award or Rishi Kapoor buying it. Or the rumours of Shahrukh's wins for DDLJ and KKHH being biasedness personification. Especially the case of Anil and Rishi Kapoor who have themselves accepted it. Also the sudden inclusion of Manoj shows that backlash theory has some truth. It is obvious that awards are available to be bought or atleast given to who came to perform or favoured ones, if not awards atleast a huge part of nomination process is for pleasing people rather than merit. It is not just media or fan fabricated BS, but also confirmed by many stars including your favorite Shahrukh Khan himself.

I think there is a very thin line between the truth and assumptions which should not be neglected or ridiculed in fan wars. Your complaint about Aamir fans hypocrisy or irony would have been apt if they would been celebrating or ridiculing SRK, which they are not doing, they are still calling the commercial awards BS. I understand some of the SRK haters have fuelled the topic in the early days by saying SRK will dance his way in FF, but majority of the outrage(or in your words cribbing) was for neglecting Manoj, Swara, Dangal girls, Radhika, Randeep, Akki, Sultan and so on. Most of the people complained about AB Sr's probable win as best actor and RKapoors inclusion. While blant promotion of Anu and Alia by Kjo were also annoyed people.
Poeple in general did not had problem with SRK's nomination in FF, the problem people had was SRK being at top in Raja's list, which is another topic, which I have seen you, pallavi-ji and DZ mixing up with FF nominations "cribbing". The issue with the list and with the FF nominations are totally different. I understand you guys are annoyed by constant mocking of SRK's award wins, but it is also a thing that you guys confuse his mocking for winning awards for cheesy roles like KKHH, DDLJ, Devdas and DTPH, with his wins for Chak De and Swades, also MNIK. Yes few weirdos discredit even those, but you cannot blame everyone for that. I think this mocking of all fans because of few weirdos should stop. Yes me myself I have been a part of it, but later on I realised it is wrong on my part, especially the ridiculing of Deepika and SRK fans I did because of few weirdos.
I have seen you, Yammy, DZ and pallavi-ji(yes I am taking direct names rather than stupid indirect digs) generally being against everyone who is against the award system this year. Be it fans here or Amaal or Aamir. Also funny thing is you guys yourself especially you and Yammy think awards sucks, so for whom are we fighting??? I think there is enough evidence that awards shows are tweaked for pleasing industry walas/fans and lobbying to a great extent, and there is no doubt about it. Yes even Aamir's and especially Manoj's win no matter how deserving is a pleasing act for me especially after the social media backlash post nomination announcement. Anyways parting words (yes restricted posting due to one of you SRK fans reporting me, hehe just kidding, dont take it seriously) is IMO is awards are rigged, filled with bias and lobbying, sometimes they get it right, sometimes unfair one wins, while sometimes they are forced to change their decision. We fans idiots become happy if the performances we liked win, while performances which we didn't find deserving make us crib. And this has nothing to do with my fabs, as one of them will never any award, maybe if best item song performers award is made, while other will rather take cash than awards.😆
Bye love you allz dont kill me, as I have to watch your fab's movie Raaes on 26th.

Thats quite an essay😆 Baki tou sab theek hai.. What I want to know is how did you conclude I think awards suck?😲 I think no such thing.. I just think awards are driven by preferences of the jury which might not match my thinking or preference.. I just don't believe in the buying and dancing terminology, irrespective of who says it.. Baki I have never ever said k awards suck irrespective of who won it.. their telecast on TV and the editing is a different matter

You are kinda missing the point of hypocricy.. every win of Shahrukh is credited as buying or exchange of performance but if Amir wins, he has of course not bought it and its just that FF five times grew afraid of backlash.. Thats the thinking I have problem with.. Nothing else


EDIT: WHo is Amal that I am supposed to be against?😕 I don't even know the guy.. I am not even against Amir not attending or believing in awards.. thats his prerogative.. As for fans, come on.. you should know the reasoning behind that by now😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
They were also doing damage control when Kangana won best actress award for Queen and TWMR even after talking so much bullshit about it. 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Love_Katty_24-7

Accept what??? (a) Aamir bought it or (b) Awards are always as according to the preferences of the jury, so the award buying theory/FF giving it to their favorites is crap manufactured by bitter losers like Ajay Devgn, Aamir Khan and Akshay Kumar.
If it is number one, what will Aamir gain?? He will gain nothing?? See technically he will gain nothing.

If it is number two what about the stories of Anil's bribed win, Rajesh Khanna's refusal for attendance without award or Rishi Kapoor buying it. Or the rumours of Shahrukh's wins for DDLJ and KKHH being biasedness personification. Especially the case of Anil and Rishi Kapoor who have themselves accepted it. Also the sudden inclusion of Manoj shows that backlash theory has some truth. It is obvious that awards are available to be bought or atleast given to who came to perform or favoured ones, if not awards atleast a huge part of nomination process is for pleasing people rather than merit. It is not just media or fan fabricated BS, but also confirmed by many stars including your favorite Shahrukh Khan himself.

I think there is a very thin line between the truth and assumptions which should not be neglected or ridiculed in fan wars. Your complaint about Aamir fans hypocrisy or irony would have been apt if they would been celebrating or ridiculing SRK, which they are not doing, they are still calling the commercial awards BS. I understand some of the SRK haters have fuelled the topic in the early days by saying SRK will dance his way in FF, but majority of the outrage(or in your words cribbing) was for neglecting Manoj, Swara, Dangal girls, Radhika, Randeep, Akki, Sultan and so on. Most of the people complained about AB Sr's probable win as best actor and RKapoors inclusion. While blant promotion of Anu and Alia by Kjo were also annoyed people.
Poeple in general did not had problem with SRK's nomination in FF, the problem people had was SRK being at top in Raja's list, which is another topic, which I have seen you, pallavi-ji and DZ mixing up with FF nominations "cribbing". The issue with the list and with the FF nominations are totally different. I understand you guys are annoyed by constant mocking of SRK's award wins, but it is also a thing that you guys confuse his mocking for winning awards for cheesy roles like KKHH, DDLJ, Devdas and DTPH, with his wins for Chak De and Swades, also MNIK. Yes few weirdos discredit even those, but you cannot blame everyone for that. I think this mocking of all fans because of few weirdos should stop. Yes me myself I have been a part of it, but later on I realised it is wrong on my part, especially the ridiculing of Deepika and SRK fans I did because of few weirdos.
I have seen you, Yammy, DZ and pallavi-ji(yes I am taking direct names rather than stupid indirect digs) generally being against everyone who is against the award system this year. Be it fans here or Amaal or Aamir. Also funny thing is you guys yourself especially you and Yammy think awards sucks, so for whom are we fighting??? I think there is enough evidence that awards shows are tweaked for pleasing industry walas/fans and lobbying to a great extent, and there is no doubt about it. Yes even Aamir's and especially Manoj's win no matter how deserving is a pleasing act for me especially after the social media backlash post nomination announcement. Anyways parting words (yes restricted posting due to one of you SRK fans reporting me, hehe just kidding, dont take it seriously) is IMO is awards are rigged, filled with bias and lobbying, sometimes they get it right, sometimes unfair one wins, while sometimes they are forced to change their decision. We fans idiots become happy if the performances we liked win, while performances which we didn't find deserving make us crib. And this has nothing to do with my fabs, as one of them will never any award, maybe if best item song performers award is made, while other will rather take cash than awards.😆
Bye love you allz dont kill me, as I have to watch your fab's movie Raaes on 26th.

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Posted: 8 years ago
Aakash - When will your WL and post restrictions reduce? IT gives me headache reading such long post😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Yammy I read you saying, you don't care about Awards many times, suck was hyperbole from the exact word used by AB in one post. Sorry if mixing both if it caused any issue with you. This backlash theory is just one day old started by Pakeezah, but I strongly feel Manoj win is obviously a tweeter backlash act, the fact dude himself never knew about it shows it(as generally everyone knows who is going to win).
Hypocrisy would have been on point if Aamir or his fans acknowledged the awards, the thing is they dont. Filmfare may have given due to backlash fearing or due to lobbying from directors or even Aamir himself paying backstage, the question in this thread is FF rigged even now after Aamir won, and most of Aamir/Dangal supporters saying it is rigged even after Aamir won shows there is no hypocrisy from that end. Now if you want fans to say yes Aamir paid the money for it would be a over-accepting, that is a thing of rival fans, and not supporters😆. Anyways lets agree to disagree about the "kitna hai hypocrisy of Aamir fans" topic 😆.


@Yammy: yes I will watch Raaes, achi lagi toh tareef, nahi hai toh bashing karunha😆.



@Amaal wala comment: yeah you were not in that thread, but I took it as cumulative for all you four, main abhi saab point individually post nahi karsakta warna, page hi fill hojata😆

@RR mera WL kabhi kaam nahi hoga as my habit of using the F words and sexual analogies will always get in my way😆




@ Roni: Yes I am gonna win the award for essay.

@AB: i have no issue with you four supporting each other.I pointed you guys because you are the active participants for this debate. Please don't take it as I have problem with you guys supporting each other, or the recently coined cheerleading for each other.As for the other things, as I said with Yammy, lets agree to disagree, I just had to address you guys, I did. The topic will go round and round, as we are not in same page, and arguing in this will only lead to faltu arguments which will eventually mean nothing.

@DZ: my post is not agianst you, yes I have directly addressed you, but I think directly addressing is better than taking indirect digs. Don't take it in a wrong way.
Edited by Love_Katty_24-7 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Love_Katty_24-7

@Yammy I read you saying, you don't care about Awards many times, suck was hyperbole from the exact word used by AB in one post. Sorry if mixing both if it caused any issue with you. This backlash theory is just one day old started by Pakeezah, but I strongly feel Manoj win is obviously a tweeter backlash act, the fact dude himself never knew about it shows it(as generally everyone knows who is going to win).
Hypocrisy would have been on point if Aamir or his fans acknowledged the awards, the thing is they dont. Filmfare may have given due to backlash fearing or due to lobbying from directors or even Aamir himself paying backstage, the question in this thread is FF rigged even now after Aamir won, and most of Aamir/Dangal supporters saying it is rigged even after Aamir won shows there is no hypocrisy from that end. Now if you want fans to say yes Aamir paid the money for it would be a over-accepting, that is a thing of rival fans, and not supporters😆. Anyways lets agree to disagree about the "kitna hai hypocrisy of Aamir fans" topic 😆.

Nah nah.. You misunderstood me.. I don't care about awards did not mean I don't believe in them.. I meant Shahrukh has been way too long in the industry for awards and all to matter to him now.. I don't care matlab I am indifferent to it, not that I am against it😆
But I wasn't just talking about Amir fans😆 I was talking about all who say Shahrukh bought everyone of his awards😆 If the awards are indeed rigged, how did Amir win it is the only question I ask to all concerned since I don't buy the backlash argument
I don't think we are disagreeing..Its a classic case of miscommunication and misinterpretation😆 I know you cannot respond more, so let me conclude with, Dont forget to watch Raees😳😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
There is no damage control mostly
They chose films with big producers and celebs
Same films like udta punjab,kandS , neerja was indie films with small time actors bet they won't had got a single award
Manoj award was due to backlash given he wasnt nominated initially.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Oh God! Here Essay writing competition is going on 😲
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: roni_berna

Oh God! Here Essay writing competition is going on 😲

No competition.. TL won fair and square😉😆

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