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643898

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Posted: 9 years ago

#71

1. Except Saudi and Iran, no muslim country fully follows Sharia

2. Homosexuality is a sin in chrisitianity and Judasim too i.e all abrahamic relgions

3. Only middle-east is not equal to Islam . There are other muslim countries in other parts too.

4. Muslim countries had female leaders even b4 USA

Yes there are problems in the muslim world , i wont deny this but dont show pics of only Afghanistan,Iraq to show how every Muslim country is a shithole

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@ShadowKisses

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Posted: 9 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: yosesultan
Qu'ran is the only book that advocates waging war on disbelievers and killing them. Disbelieving/unrest is quite literally worse than killing, so one can "slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush."
This is a verse from the Qu'ran by the way and if anyone would like, I'd be more than happily willing to source these and share some more quotes from the Qu'ran where it encourages the slaying of nonbelievers. Either forcibly convert or let them 'perish.'

That is factually incorrect.

I see yours from Koran and I raise you one from
(Deuteronomy 13:13-18) Deuteronomy is the fifth book of the Torah and the Old Testament.

Suppose you should hear in one of your cities, which the Lord your God is giving you as a place to live, that some evil people have departed from among you to entice the inhabitants of their cities, saying, "Let's go and serve other gods" (whom you have not known before). You must investigate thoroughly and inquire carefully. If it is indeed true that such a disgraceful thing is being done among you, you must by all means slaughter the inhabitants of that city with the sword; annihilate with the sword everyone in it, as well as the livestock. You must gather all of its plunder into the middle of the plaza and burn the city and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. It will be an abandoned ruin forever - it must never be rebuilt again.

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SportsFreak

@SportsFreak

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Posted: 9 years ago

#73

Taking random quranic verses withiut context won't help much. The prophet went into offensive wars to protect himself. He didn't suprise people or bomb people he went to wars to protect the state so it was an army vs army war not what ISIS is doing right now

The prophet lived peacefully with the idol worshippers and preached to them Islam but he was persecuted and expelled from their and a siege imposed on him and his followers. That's when his family his biggest supporters wife and uncle died addressed as the year of sorrow in Islam. When the prophet used to preach thorns and dirty were thrown on his way by Abu Lahab and his wife but he did not kill them he continued to preach peacefully. Of course Islam allows for self defence and that's what the prophet did. And they're ruled of war in Islam you don't kill innocents and children you deal with army vs army

They're many verses in the Quran that day their is no compulsion in religion. Surah Ikhals addresses that and I think even surah baqarah

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1032675

Hibernated

Posted: 9 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: corry

And what about Muslims that want to leave Islam and choose another religion or who just want to leave and become atheist or something? What about them are they safe are they allowed?

And yes there are so many muslims that have left Islam.. it was their personal choice. We are not allowed to leave Islam it has severe punishment at the time of Qayamat but some people may convert because of certain reasons (different religion marriages) etc. Did anybody kill them?

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Aweeeecute

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Posted: 9 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: ShadowKisses

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwdhib-bZ-s[/YOUTUBE]
It's funny because so much of what you said was addressed by Reza Aslan. Have a watch, if you'd like.

oh i agree with him 50 percent

but i was talking about middle east and not africa
anyway you just tell me why do middle east countries have pathetic rules for women
dont deny that every day i keep on reading about lashes for zina
lashes for rape
lashes for gay
lashes for leaving athiest

and decision is given by laws which they say are islamic
i mean if judiciary cannot protect you than nothing can
we have turkish president saying condoms are not for muslims
and turkey is the one the best countries
indonesians giving lashes to christians just because of alcohol
i know every country has issues
but when a law in a countries are so unfaif to women and minority
i dont know what to say
why not make laws which are liberal and equal

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cory

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Posted: 9 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: Pentaminous...
And yes there are so many muslims that have left Islam.. it was their personal choice. We are not allowed to leave Islam it has severe punishment at the time of Qayamat but some people may convert because of certain reasons (different religion marriages) etc. Did anybody kill them?

then how do you explain this http://islamqa.info/en/14231

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@ShadowKisses

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Posted: 9 years ago

#77

Originally posted by: yosesultan
Explain the Crusades then. How come modern day Christians, who make up the number one world religion as of right now, don't act like they did back in the 11th century? Fact is most terror attacks in recent years have been perpetrated by Muslims.

Islam is known as the religion of peace yet one can get beheaded or stoned in Saudi Arabia for not wearing proper Islamic attire.

I agree with you that Islam is inflexible. Truth is Islam desperately needs a reform to survive in modern times. Islam is simply not compatible with the west.

Here is an example of Christian violence: http://www.mintpressnews.com/the-forgotten-conflict-the-world-ignores-genocide-in-the-central-african-republic/204753/

I think I already did - in terms of its inflexibility and lacking a central authority that dictates what is and isn't proper behaviour. There's no Muslim pope or Vatican - and no single religious authority that states what is and is not proper Islamic beliefs and how they are to be interepreted in terms of the modern world and not the time that they were written in. Plus, Christianity has reformed what with the Protestant movement; Islam has not.

IMO no religion is a religion of peace -- you can make it what you would like it to be.

Edited by ShadowKisses - 9 years ago

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Aweeeecute

@Aweeeecute

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Posted: 9 years ago

#78

Originally posted by: Deathstroke
1. Except Saudi and Iran, no muslim country fully follows Sharia
2. Homosexuality is a sin in chrisitianity and Judasim too i.e all abrahamic relgions
3. Only middle-east is not equal to Islam . There are other muslim countries in other parts too.
4. Muslim countries had female leaders even b4 USA

Yes there are problems in the muslim world , i wont deny this but dont show pics of only Afghanistan,Iraq to show how every Muslim country is a shithole

i know bangladesh and pakistan dont follow these sharia law
i was only talking about middle east
btw that lashes start happening in indonesia
india also have so many issue
i am not blaming muslims
what i am saying islam do need reform
you know even christians killed lot of people and than they reform
so i know i will never blame whole islam
but dont you think evolution is imp
because its 2016

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1032675

Hibernated

Posted: 9 years ago

#79

Originally posted by: Aweeecute
forget about this
what does quran says about gays
dont they say kill them
my friends who is a muslim says she can never support gay rights because she is muslim and she has read quran
so please answer
and also please answer what does quran says about women who wants to do sex before marriage
want to leave islam
marry a hindu or jain
please i wanna know the answer
so all the people leaving in middle east follow disgusting sharia law about lashes and death penaly are they not muslims????
because u say killing innocent is against islam
please tell
or u dont wanna comment on it

Are you for real awecute? I mean seriously?? Quran never said to kill gays. Yes, in Quran there is a complete chapter on homosexuality where God has forbidden us to engage into this.. how can you relate it into killing?? And Quran is a book for muslims and we are not allowed to engage in it.. doesnt mean anyone are forbidden.. you need to clear your facts dear. And just your one friend doesnt support gay rights it means every muslims are doing same? Just to increase your knowledge, muslims practice homosexuality too despite of not practising it. Who are we to kill anyone? Its God (bhagwaan, devta, ishwar) who take human souls not us..

Yes killing innocent is against Islam, i belong to a religion where we are not even allowed to killed an ant and you think we can kill innocent people? Every religion has rules and so does Islam.. kyu dont you follow your religious principles?? Middle east people drink alcohol and eat pork too which is forbidden in Islam too.. but thats their personal choice. Does it mean they must be killed by drinking alcohol or eating pig?Thats what you think about Islam?

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643898

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Posted: 9 years ago

#80

If there is no compulsion in religion then please tell me why thousands and thousands of Muslims crowd UK streets and advocate the instilling of Sharia Law.

In liberal countries like UK and US, followers of the Islamic faith will tell you that Islam is the religion of peace. They're just following their beliefs by wearing Hijab, following Shariah, but where they are in majority they make those beliefs compulsory simply because that is the correct way for them to live.

Cos they are idiots . I am not sure but even the prophet said the muslims must follow the rules of the land they live in

Over 20 Muslims countries advocate killing anyone who leaves the Muslim faith, what the heck does that tell you?

what about the rest 30 ?