Why are Krushna and Kapil spared despite body shaming? - Page 5

Originally posted by: NathuPyare

i have read your posts and believe that your posts do make sense (most of the time) hence it was a genuine question.

as for your question "How many should be in jail for making jokes? Is it reserved for just national icons or common citizens are privileged for this facility." I think there always a beginning to anything, a precedent of sorts... making a public video wishing someone to die cannot be taken as just a joke... if one such person is punished in a way that serves as an example there will not be need to put many people in jail because then people will think twice before cracking such jokes... speaking for myself, I can't even call such things as jokes... and yes we can atleast start by preserving the respect and intergrity of our national icons! A Bharat who cannot protect the respect of its Bharat Ratna cannot protect the respect of its common citizen!

as for expecting Lata's family to file an FIR... I don't think she will do so...and it's better if she does not do so... there are enough people in India and abroad who consider Lata as one of their own and they have every right to file an FIR if they think Tanmay's statement has hurt their feelings!

p.s we can't really discuss about a girl getting ganagraped in a metro city in the bollywood forum unless that girl is related to bollywood... if I'm wrong then please start the discussion and I'm more than ready to participate!

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

I know it was a genuine question. I asked a genuine one too. I can't understand this treating different people differently as per their status quo in the society.

As far as setting an example why should it start with Tanmay for a joke he made. A minister threatens to rape and murder people is not jailed yet. But we should start an example by jailing a comedian? Because easy target ? Because national Icon? Because normal citizens of this country doesn't deserve any justice for the things they bear on a regular basis? A joke cannot be termed as a joke because it asked someone to die . Fair enough I agree. A politician threatened people harm and he shouldn't be jailed because I have no idea. Is he even removed from the party yet ? I m not asking u specifically. I genuinely don't know if any action was taken against Tapas Pal.

As long as there is no law to put him behind bars we cannot just ask him to be jailed just to make an example. Its unfair to him. Indian Law cannot be unfair to any individual just to to teach its citizens a lesson. Thats not how it works. Otherwise they will have to answer for a lot of bullshit that happens on regular basis.

In a country where equality was a constitutional right where did protecting its Bharat Ratnas became a bigger priority than its common citizens? A privileged class that has all the money and power needs more protection than common citizens of this country ? They are the ones who need people to fight for them ? The politicians to fight for them ?

No they don't have every right to make decisions on behalf of an adult. Especially when her immediate family hasn't. I cannot take decisions for my idols just because I love them unconditionally.

I wasn't talking about us discussing the issue. I was talking about how media and politicians ignored it .. They were busy about Lata and Sachin.

Originally posted by: NathuPyare

I don't understand why everytime a issue is raised there a common answer - there are so many problems in India why only this issue?

see certain cases are special, not simply because of the person involved, but because of the larger perspective. for ex. one cd say why only raise hue and cry for Nirbhaya case when so many girls are brutally raped each and every day in India (and most of such cases are not even reported)... but the Nirbhaya case became special because it highlight the plight of women security in the National capital...why don't we just dismiss the Nirbhaya rape case saying why just Nirbhaya? just because that case happened in the national capital...why give it special treatment when rapes happens to so many girls in so many small towns also...

BUt we all agree that speaking up for Nirbhaya case was a good thing...it raised awareness and consciousness about women security in general

similarly we do not raise hue and cry over every death joke to any tom dick and harry... but when a known person like Tanmay cracks death wish 'jokes' on a much more known and respected name then it will definitely come in highlight... at least beacuse of Lata and Sachin people are forced to question about the limits of FOE. because of this issue (and also of kanhaiya's) people are forced to question - should there be any boundary of FOE?

there might be so many problems in India but this does not mean that we will push every problem under the carpet citing the same excuse. of-course there are priorities but you have to start somewhere. rape has been a problem since time immemorial but it was Nirbhaya case that brought real attention to the issue similarly insulting national figures and public sentiments is also a prevalent issue but lata-tanmay's case brought it in highlight. It's not like lata insult is a kind of problem that should only be dealth with after poverty and corruption is abolished... why can't appropriate measures be taken right now?just because lata is a special person and we believe Bharat Ratnas do not become a bigger priority than its common citizens? what's the use of conferring bharat ratna then if they are not more special than the common citizen?

and as far as taking decisions on the part of adults that is very much allowed in India... people file so many cases when their religious sentiments are hurt... there are people in censor board who dictate what adults should see and what they are not allowed to see...then why can't people file an FIR agianst Tanmay for hurting their sentiments by insulting Lata?

Originally posted by: NathuPyare

if "slap Tanmay" can be inferred as insinuating violence than so can be "you should die" too! (for lata)..

if "you should die" is treated as FOE than "slap Tanmay" should be treated as FOE too...

Originally posted by: Heisenberg10

Firstly this is a non-issue, unless someone is planning to kill Sachin and Lata, this is not an issue. Whilst it's not a nice thing to wish death on someone, it's not a crime, and simply wishing someone death won't make it true, they are not going to die because someone said it. In this case, a comedian posted something with the intention to provoke, thought he was being funny and edgy, and he managed to stir up the hornets nest, job accomplished for him.

Calling for legal charges and arrest, people are making a martyr out of him. He was not even being serious, like I said, it's an unpleasant thing to say, and people can bash and troll him all they want, but arresting someone for an unfunny joke, that is simply absurd.