Swara bhaskar abuses (mods move it to debate mansion) - Page 21

Originally posted by: Vedika211

And Umar Khalid and Afzal Guru. Umar Khalid is a PhD student in history. This is what historians do - they question things that are accepted as history. They look at government documents, legal judgements and so on - and then offer their interpretations of it. It is not wrong/illegal to do so. Do you know how many authors and historians have written things that question the idea of India? Will you now search each and everyone of them and call them anti-national?

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

To prove that Congress is the root cause of anti nationalism sentiments in the young children.

Originally posted by: Vedika211

I didn't say it was said that day, just that it is said. During my years in DU, I too heard a lot of slogans from both sides - some of them were quite brutal, but references the events of those times.

Yes, most of the videos have been made from one side or the other. There is no neutral coverage of this event at such.

Most of the students at JNU and DU are not necessarily well-off. Some of them come from lower middle class while some come from lower middle class or labouring classes. Both DU and JNU have entrance exams. When you fill up the JNU form, you have to list the annual income of your family as well as the specific area you come from - they take a lot of people from tribal areas and cut-off areas. [I know this because I filled out the JNU application form, took the entrance exam and did not clear it.]

JNU is only a postgraduate university, not an undergraduate one. So all its students are doing either Masters or M.Phil or PhD. It is a research driven university. For most of these students, thinking, writing and organizing events and rallies is their way of being political. Not everyone who feels strongly for the country need only fight for it. By that logic, politicians should go first of all where they happily send the foot soldiers.

Is there a similar video where they interview students on the other side?, I haven't come across any, not talking about videos being shown on news channels.

I think you misconstrued my point, these people are comparing/paralleling themselves to actual freedom fighters like Gandhi et al, in comparison to them, these students are living privileged lives, they have not faced the struggles, oppression, hardships, sacrifice that revolutionaries went through the Indian Independence, the comparison is absurd.

No radical change can happen through discussions or rallies, if you seriously believe sedition is the highest moral duty for citizens, and your heart bleeds for Pak funded Kashmiri terrorists, then pick up a gun and do something about it. The army defends the state, if you really believe Kashmir is occupied by India, then the only way to "free" Kashmir is to take up arms, holding rallies and protests is going to do absolutely nothing. Do these students have the guts to take on the Indian army?

Originally posted by: ~*sindhu*~

The biggest anti nationals for this country will always be these political parties...

Originally posted by: colossial2015

Also add Indian media. They are the worse lot.

What kind of university is this ? Shouting slogans of destroying the country whose citizens feed you by their taxes ?
Ask these fecking leeches to pay their own fees and get some strict schedule like IIT/IIMs in place, so that their mind is on test or presentation next morning, than getting these great ideas of destroying India.

Originally posted by: blue-ice

So agree with both of you...political parties and the pressititutes..🤢🤢

@ topic...Swara needs to calm down...I don't know whose side she is on and I don't care...but if someone says...destroy India...there is in no way , shape or form in which that traitor can or should be defended...every thing else is debatable...the policies of the govt, freedom of speech...our rights...everything...but a statement which says ...destroy ur own country...ur motherland... is not to be defended ever...period.

Originally posted by: Hydro123

What kind of university is this ? Shouting slogans of destroying the country whose citizens feed you by their taxes ?
Ask these fecking leeches to pay their own fees and get some strict schedule like IIT/IIMs in place, so that their mind is on test or presentation next morning, than getting these great ideas of destroying India.

There you go another one who is blaming the university without differentiating from those small number of students who as it turns out to be are not even from JNU as per today's news

Originally posted by: colossial2015

I had a chance of meeting some students of JNU once and some of them hate everything about Delhi and the government.

I guess the whole ecosystem of the university is like that. May be the faculties are extreme leftist minded and with that SFI jholawala jokers have some deep rooted influence and powers there.
Hating govt is fine but going into such extremes is definitely not acceptable. We cannot allow a famous university in country's capital to become breeding ground of naxals or sleeper cell.