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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: kvgmatri

http://www.mediacrooks.com/2016/02/intolerant-evictions.html#.VrQWnubQ4eT

"But now, for the first time in the history of independent India someone has dared to touch this power circle. Warnings were circulated at the lower level for about the last 6 months. Last week the Culture Ministry decided to send a notice to them. This, perhaps, is the reason for these intellectuals to suddenly flare up against "intolerance". For example, painter Jatin Das, father of actress Nandita Das is occupying a large government bungalow at one of the premium locations in Delhi free of cost for many years. Government has sent an eviction notice to him. This is the real reason for Nandita Das strongly speaking about intolerance in television channels and writing in English newspapers (all diligently carried by the network).

waah Jatin dasji
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Posted: 9 years ago
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badi badi baatein vada paav khate i mean eating govt food and perks...shame
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Really disappointed with Nandhita Das if this is true.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Lets face it...whether its Nandita Das or Hema Malini..everyone gets doles from the government irrespective of who is in power. Applies to all artists and sportspersons who get government sponsorship. Some do use it well to promote arts/sports. Rest line their pocket. Coming to Nandita I liked what she said here and I have the same grouse too:

Nandita who did a Pakistani film Ramchand Pakistani on cross-border amity says, "For the moment let us assume that the Pakistan bureaucracy came in the way of this cultural event. As an artist I would separate this bureaucratic road-block from genuine efforts to strengthen friendship."

Reacting to Anupam's tirade against those artistes who referred to him as the Indian government's champion , Nandita says, " I was disappointed to hear what Mr. Kher had to say on television. If we dismiss those we disagree with as anti- nationals, we risk diminishing the possibility of dialogue and it invites shrill abuses."

She won't get rattled by efforts to portray her as not being nationalistic enough for not protesting enough when Anupam was denied entry into Pakistan. "I don't feel the need to prove my nationality in public debates. My work, my life is reflective of my cultural and national identity and we have to draw a line between jingoism and nationalism. And I only want to reiterate that whenever the two countries have the possibility of artistic exchange we should do our best to enable them. Surely this sentiment is not any different than what the Indian governments recent diplomatic efforts signal."

http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report-nandita-das-opts-out-of-karachi-literary-fest-2173959


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Posted: 9 years ago
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This is December 2012 article and it's coming out so true.
http://www.niticentral.com/2012/12/30/delhi-intellectuals-fear-coming-of-no-nonsense-modi-33955.html

Narendra Modi was sworn in for his fourth term as Chief Minister of Gujarat last Wednesday to the horror of those Indians who have spent more than a decade portraying him as a demon. These include leftists of varying shades of pink, Muslim intellectuals of varying shades of fundamentalist Islam, social activists of varying causes and political analysts whose intellectual development appears to have stopped when the secularism versus communalism debate died a natural death. What unites this motley crew is a deep fear that if Modi does become Prime Minister in 2014, their dominance of the national discourse, their virtual monopoly on tickets to enter politics, high national awards, Government largesse and other forms of patronage like regular excursions to foreign lands will end. Let me explain in more detail.

The Congress, in its long decades at the helm of India's destiny has cultivated a particular breed of intellectual' assiduously. Those who fit into the leftist, liberal, secular category have been given Rajya Sabha tickets, Padma awards and other prizes and have been rewarded with Government jobs and houses in Delhi. The Government of India has enormous powers of patronage and the Congress learned long ago to use them very effectively. So if you are a sarkari' intellectual, you could find yourself in charge of any one of a myriad cultural and social organisations that come with low salaries but high perks. So if for instance you became head of one of the Government's literary or music academies you would be entitled to a nice bungalow in Lutyens' Delhi and a car with a red light on it. If you failed to get one of these jobs you could be rewarded in other ways for your loyalty to the Gandhi family and the Congress ideology'.

So I know many intellectuals' in Delhi who have been given Government grants for promoting things as diverse as the Urdu language and the environment. If you are well-connected enough, you might even be able to get more than one Government handout without any questions being asked. So you could be a patron of Urdu poetry and the editor of an ecology magazine at the same time.

If you are clever, then you should be able to extend your expertise' in Urdu or Sanskrit to land yourself a Doordarshan series on the history of these languages or some related subject and you would never need to do what most Indians consider a regular job. In my long years of covering politics and governance in Delhi, I have met retired bureaucrats, failed Bollywood actresses and filmmakers, socialites and relatives of successful politicians who have benefited from Government of India largesse in an extraordinary variety of ways. Nobody has ever questioned this largesse because in the brief moment that the Bharatiya Janata Party came to power in Delhi it continued the practice because the very same intellectuals' that had lived for years on Government largesse switched political sides effortlessly and switched back to being Congress loyalists when the political fortunes of the BJP declined after 2004.

It may seem hard to believe if you are not from Delhi but trust me when I tell you that the same filmmakers, movie stars, writers, dancers, musicians, artists and other intellectuals' that thrive on Government of India largesse today were once in the inner circle of Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Even the political analysts that today boast of their closeness to Sonia Gandhi were to be seen in those days waltzing in and out of the Vajpayee household as if their loyalty had always been to him. Why did he allow this? I have asked myself this question often and the only satisfactory answer that I have come up with is that the people who surrounded the BJP Government at the time were new to the foibles and fakery of Lutyens' Delhi and did not see duplicity and chicanery even when it happened under their noses. By the time they understood what was happening the general election that put the BJP back on the Opposition benches in the Lok Sabha had come and gone.

What worries the intellectuals' of Lutyens' Delhi is that Narendra Modi may not be as easy to seduce as Vajpayee was. He may find it easier to discern between cant and real culture and between courtiers and real loyalists and this would inevitably lead to a total overturning of the patronage applecart. So the demonisation of Modi has been a joint project on a scale that has been quite unprecedented in the political history of modern India. It would be fair to say that no Indian politician has been demonised in quite this way and usually because the measure by which he has been judged has not been applied to anyone else.

Whenever I have tried to argue that what Modi allowed to happen in Gujarat in 2002 was modelled on what Rajiv Gandhi allowed to happen with the Sikhs in 1984, I have hit an impenetrable wall. As recently as last month when my new book Durbar' came out I had a long conversation with a senior bureaucrat who tried to convince me that I was wrong in writing in the book that Rajiv had been complicit in the massacres of the Sikhs. "You must understand that he knew nothing of what was happening," this gentleman argued, "You must understand that he was a political novice and did not know what was going on or he would never have allowed it." When I reminded him of the famous big tree falls, earth shakes' speech, he changed the subject.

This is how it always is whenever Modi's crimes' are discussed. The discussion simply ends and if you persist in trying to continue the argument then you get labelled. You get called a Sonia-baiter' or a saffron supporter' or that most evil of things in the eyes of the denizens of Lutyens' Delhi " anti-Muslim'. Well, we do not know what Modi will do if he does become Prime Minister. He may, like Vajpayee, do nothing at all to upset the applecart. But, for the moment his victory has sent such a shiver of fear along the spine of Lutyens' Delhi that you can almost hear the sound of it rustling like a demonic wind through the corridors of intellectual and cultural power in this city.

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Apart from this, there was one more article by the same journalist Tavleen Singh about how Libtards have already planned protests to topple Modi govt much before all this 'intolerance' non-sense started.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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One more...before Modi became PM...These Fiberals were already afraid of him...
I am not copying it here because it's too long...

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/fear-and-loathing-in-lutyens-delhi


Fear and Loathing in Lutyens' Delhi



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Posted: 9 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: cpatel90

This is December 2012 article and it's coming out so true.

http://www.niticentral.com/2012/12/30/delhi-intellectuals-fear-coming-of-no-nonsense-modi-33955.html

Narendra Modi was sworn in for his fourth term as Chief Minister of Gujarat last Wednesday to the horror of those Indians who have spent more than a decade portraying him as a demon. These include leftists of varying shades of pink, Muslim intellectuals of varying shades of fundamentalist Islam, social activists of varying causes and political analysts whose intellectual development appears to have stopped when the secularism versus communalism debate died a natural death. What unites this motley crew is a deep fear that if Modi does become Prime Minister in 2014, their dominance of the national discourse, their virtual monopoly on tickets to enter politics, high national awards, Government largesse and other forms of patronage like regular excursions to foreign lands will end. Let me explain in more detail.

The Congress, in its long decades at the helm of India's destiny has cultivated a particular breed of intellectual' assiduously. Those who fit into the leftist, liberal, secular category have been given Rajya Sabha tickets, Padma awards and other prizes and have been rewarded with Government jobs and houses in Delhi. The Government of India has enormous powers of patronage and the Congress learned long ago to use them very effectively. So if you are a sarkari' intellectual, you could find yourself in charge of any one of a myriad cultural and social organisations that come with low salaries but high perks. So if for instance you became head of one of the Government's literary or music academies you would be entitled to a nice bungalow in Lutyens' Delhi and a car with a red light on it. If you failed to get one of these jobs you could be rewarded in other ways for your loyalty to the Gandhi family and the Congress ideology'.

So I know many intellectuals' in Delhi who have been given Government grants for promoting things as diverse as the Urdu language and the environment. If you are well-connected enough, you might even be able to get more than one Government handout without any questions being asked. So you could be a patron of Urdu poetry and the editor of an ecology magazine at the same time.

If you are clever, then you should be able to extend your expertise' in Urdu or Sanskrit to land yourself a Doordarshan series on the history of these languages or some related subject and you would never need to do what most Indians consider a regular job. In my long years of covering politics and governance in Delhi, I have met retired bureaucrats, failed Bollywood actresses and filmmakers, socialites and relatives of successful politicians who have benefited from Government of India largesse in an extraordinary variety of ways. Nobody has ever questioned this largesse because in the brief moment that the Bharatiya Janata Party came to power in Delhi it continued the practice because the very same intellectuals' that had lived for years on Government largesse switched political sides effortlessly and switched back to being Congress loyalists when the political fortunes of the BJP declined after 2004.

It may seem hard to believe if you are not from Delhi but trust me when I tell you that the same filmmakers, movie stars, writers, dancers, musicians, artists and other intellectuals' that thrive on Government of India largesse today were once in the inner circle of Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Even the political analysts that today boast of their closeness to Sonia Gandhi were to be seen in those days waltzing in and out of the Vajpayee household as if their loyalty had always been to him. Why did he allow this? I have asked myself this question often and the only satisfactory answer that I have come up with is that the people who surrounded the BJP Government at the time were new to the foibles and fakery of Lutyens' Delhi and did not see duplicity and chicanery even when it happened under their noses. By the time they understood what was happening the general election that put the BJP back on the Opposition benches in the Lok Sabha had come and gone.

What worries the intellectuals' of Lutyens' Delhi is that Narendra Modi may not be as easy to seduce as Vajpayee was. He may find it easier to discern between cant and real culture and between courtiers and real loyalists and this would inevitably lead to a total overturning of the patronage applecart. So the demonisation of Modi has been a joint project on a scale that has been quite unprecedented in the political history of modern India. It would be fair to say that no Indian politician has been demonised in quite this way and usually because the measure by which he has been judged has not been applied to anyone else.

Whenever I have tried to argue that what Modi allowed to happen in Gujarat in 2002 was modelled on what Rajiv Gandhi allowed to happen with the Sikhs in 1984, I have hit an impenetrable wall. As recently as last month when my new book Durbar' came out I had a long conversation with a senior bureaucrat who tried to convince me that I was wrong in writing in the book that Rajiv had been complicit in the massacres of the Sikhs. "You must understand that he knew nothing of what was happening," this gentleman argued, "You must understand that he was a political novice and did not know what was going on or he would never have allowed it." When I reminded him of the famous big tree falls, earth shakes' speech, he changed the subject.

This is how it always is whenever Modi's crimes' are discussed. The discussion simply ends and if you persist in trying to continue the argument then you get labelled. You get called a Sonia-baiter' or a saffron supporter' or that most evil of things in the eyes of the denizens of Lutyens' Delhi " anti-Muslim'. Well, we do not know what Modi will do if he does become Prime Minister. He may, like Vajpayee, do nothing at all to upset the applecart. But, for the moment his victory has sent such a shiver of fear along the spine of Lutyens' Delhi that you can almost hear the sound of it rustling like a demonic wind through the corridors of intellectual and cultural power in this city.

----------------------------

Apart from this, there was one more article by the same journalist Tavleen Singh about how Libtards have already planned protests to topple Modi govt much before all this 'intolerance' non-sense started.


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Bold - That is something, very remarkable

Even here in I-F I see it (although I- F is not influential or significant in real world) but barely a month after Modi becoming PM I saw many posts and comments attacking the state of our country and government, I couldn't believe it

I've never seen comments like that before in I-F

"The demonisation of Modi has been a joint project on a scale that has been quite unprecedented in the political history of modern India." - it is unprecedented, even superstars enjoying unlimited popularity and wealth are feeling despondent and unsafe nowadays

To quote Niles Crane from the show 'Frasier'
"A wave of misfortune is sweeping through society's blue bloods at a rate unprecedented since the French Revolution" 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi


We all know why is Anupam uncle so hated these days. 😆 😆 😉 Apparently he took on some stars. And since we are more interested in stars than well being of country, we gotta hate Anupam uncle.

And if Anupam uncle opposed this intolerant gang.. then I am so with him. These buncha losers are so effin the country for their gain and power.


@ bold he only took on one star ( amir) not some stars and if amir has that many fans then i am 😲

But yes , it's true the other way round- some of other people are supporting Anupam without actually knowing that he supported other star 😛 - behti ganga me haath dhone me sab maahir 😉😆

http://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/bollywood/politicians-should-stop-talking-rubbish-about-shah-rukh-khan-anupam-kher/
Edited by angrybread - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ---Betty---


TFS
Bold - That is something, very remarkable

Even here in I-F I see it (although I- F is not influential or significant in real world) but barely a month after Modi becoming PM I saw many posts and comments attacking the state of our country and government, I couldn't believe it

I've never seen comments like that before in I-F

"The demonisation of Modi has been a joint project on a scale that has been quite unprecedented in the political history of modern India." - it is unprecedented, even superstars enjoying unlimited popularity and wealth are feeling despondent and unsafe nowadays

To quote Niles Crane from the show 'Frasier'
"A wave of misfortune is sweeping through society's blue bloods at a rate unprecedented since the French Revolution" 😆


Looks like people from bollywood and other places who were getting free gifts, positions and money from congress do not want to leave those things back. Haha people are simply hiding their greed behind intolerence.😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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And then the government goes and makes Nandita Das an ambassador for a campaign! India surely is intolerant if such haters get plum positions!!!

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/nandita-das-narendra-modi-nda-beti-bachao-beti-padhao-godhra-intolerance-shah-rukh-khan-aamir-khan/story/1/8872.html

But why should it always be these bollywood people for all campaigns! Be it Aamir Khan for Incredible India and now Madhuri, Sushmita and Nandita Das for 'Beti Bachao'. Are there no other women achievers? Saina Nehwal, from Haryana would be a great role model for instance. Or why not even common people who tell us how they've cherished their daughters 😕

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