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Posted: 10 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: BollyBoy

He has had his fair share of success throughout his career. Not everyone has to be a superstar to be considered a success, which is something that not many of us understand.


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We here on IF function in categorical mode.
You're either a superstar or a flop actor.

Ranbir was either superstar, one flop later (literally ONE flop later) he's finished on this forum.

Saif is either doing well during his race 2 cocktail days, or he was never meant to be a solo actor.

It's intriguing really.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: desigal90

. Gone are the days when only stars brought audiences to theaters. this is the time of great films and great scripts working with proper budget control.



Salman / Srk both bring audience irrespective of scripts, ppl come 2 see them, then any script or story. Films you talking working on scripts worked that much coz it was free run for them at Box Office, ask those same films 2 land with any Salman / Srk film & then tell me if they can earn even Half of which they earned during Solo releases at those times when biggies aren't releasing.

If Content is the King, bring it on EID, i want to see if Audience will show Housefull at Content film or Salman film.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#83
Sameer, I am not debating with you.
Edited by desigal90 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: desigal90


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We here on IF function in categorical mode.
You're either a superstar or a flop actor.

Ranbir was either superstar, one flop later (literally ONE flop later) he's finished on this forum.

Saif is either doing well during his race 2 cocktail days, or he was never meant to be a solo actor.

It's intriguing really.


Ranbir gave 3 back to back flops after YJHD; Besharam, Roy, and Bombay Velvet. Even his non-fans have expectations from him to deliver but he didn't; so hence the bashing.

Bollywood is a commercial industry so it is very competitive. Saif is a great actor, he is getting what he deserves - script driven roles. He has tried his hand at commercial cinema and failed so he's not doing them anymore, which is smart. He's not a solo actor, which is fine, not everyone needs to be. Performance oriented actors will always stay because good scripted characters are always going to be around. Him continuing to get movies says nothing much about his star power or mass appeal (which he lacks) but rather about his acting. Which is a good compliment to earn.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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How can anyone say he's not a solo actor when he's been doing ONLY solo films since 2003?
Like how is that even possible!? He hasn't done a SINGLE side role since then.

So yeah...dont buy that he's not a solo actor BS.

You know I'm not surprised.
Not long ago this place bashed the crap outta Shahid Kapoor mocking him for saying he's done and finished and Ranbir has marched ahead and he's the future.

Same place recently trampled on Ranbir and now Shahid is the new promising hero again. Similar topics cropped up about Priyanka, and then the girl did Barfi and suddenly she was once again best thing to have happened to bollywood.

Then there was the Vidya Balan phase. Ahh yes, Kareena's finished, done, pack up. Vidya is the new Khans. Now vidya is nowhere.

These days the seasons is Kangan Ranaut.
It's a cycle I see so I don't even know why I'm shocked tbh.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

How can anyone say he's not a solo actor when he's been doing ONLY solo films since 2003?

Like how is that even possible!? He hasn't done a SINGLE side role since then.

So yeah...dont buy that he's not a solo actor BS.

You know I'm not surprised.
Not long ago this place bashed the crap outta Shahid Kapoor mocking him for saying he's done and finished and Ranbir has marched ahead and he's the future.

Same place recently trampled on Ranbir and now Shahid is the new promising hero again. Similar topics cropped up about Priyanka, and then the girl did Barfi and suddenly she was once again best thing to have happened to bollywood.

Then there was the Vidya Balan phase. Ahh yes, Kareena's finished, done, pack up. Vidya is the new Khans. Now vidya is nowhere.

These days the seasons is Kangan Ranaut.
It's a cycle I see so I don't even know why I'm shocked tbh.


Desu I think what people mean is a successful solo actor. I can only remember Hum Tum, Parineeta and LAK ~ that too all these movies were more about the jodi than about him. And this was a long long time ago.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: LaFUNgA

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Salman / Srk both bring audience irrespective of scripts, ppl come 2 see them, then any script or story.


Yes only during Eid and Diwali when audience will go to watch any movie 😉 ... on the top give them masala movie and they will rush to watch


I don't think anyone shld be called super stars who is scared to release their movies without festivals , without festival even TWMR scored much more than Jai Ho 😉

Now imagine if TWMR or piku had released during Diwali or Eid ... They had earned much more than what they did
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Desu I think what people mean is a successful solo actor. I can only remember Hum Tum, Parineeta and LAK ~ that too all these movies were more about the jodi than about him. And this was a long long time ago.


Then what's the point? He loses either way?
If it flops, it's Saif's fault.
If its a hit, its coz of the heroine or the pairing.

Well, no point debating this. It's a lose lose situation for the man anyway.

If Phantom works its coz of Kat, if not her, then Kabir.
If Jugalbandi works, it's coz Salman Khan produced it
If Rangoon works, it's Shahid and Vishal B.

Race worked coz of Anil Kapoor, Katrina and Bipasha.
Race 2 worked coz of Anil, John, Deepika.
Cocktail and LAK was Deepika (never mind the fact that Deepika was only a newcomer back then)

Hum Tum is coz of Rani Mukherjee.
Parineeta coz of Vidya and Sanjay Dutt.
Salaam Namaste coz of Preity.

I'm just glad Bollywood producers and directors think otherwise. Thank God.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Yes only during Eid and Diwali when audience will go to watch any movie 😉 ... on the top give them masala movie and they will rush to watch


I don't think anyone shld be called super stars who is scared to release their movies without festivals , without festival even TWMR scored much more than Jai Ho 😉

Now imagine if TWMR or piku had released during Diwali or Eid ... They had earned much more than what they did



Ready = Non-Festival - Working Friday 15 Cr opening - BlockBuster on 2800 Screens - 121 Cr

You comparing TWMR with Jai Ho? Why not KICK / ETT? why coz TWMR couldn't do that much business?

You always comes with this point for khans ke HOLIDAYS the, madam ji, 3-4 days ki holidays se kya ho jaana hai? it will add how much 10-25 cr bas?? even if u reduce that figure from those films, then also it will be huge 100+ BlockBuster
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Can TWMR kind of makers have guts to bring their film along with Salman's EID Release? Bring it with Salman's EID film & Then i will se if it can even cross 50 Cr on BO.

Khans ke holidays se itni problem hai, why can't u see films who get huge benefit from same holidays.

Bang Bang = 5 days holiday start

Singham Returns = 4 days Holiday start

Haider = 5 days holiday start

Besharam = 3 days holiday start

Lage Raho Munna Bhai = Came on Big 2 Oct back then

Tees Maar Khan = Xmas Big Weekend

Blue = Diwali Big Weekend

OUATIM Dobaara = 15th Aug Release Date

Welcome = Xmas Week

Singh is King = Independence day Week

Khakee = Republic Day 4 day Weekend

Baby = Republic Day 4 day weekend

Now tell me, should i give all the credit for whatever success/non-success these films got to those HOLIDAYS? Abhi list aur nikal ke dikha doon toh u will know as everyone gets those holidays, some only make big.

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