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Posted: 10 years ago
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Saw the film yesterday and liked it.

The first part seemed as if made to establish the primary characters and the settings for a possible sequel ahead and I think it was well done, except for the relationship between Satyabati and Byomkesh.
As for the thriller/mystery element, I liked how it started, how at one point it got confusing, at interval we realised our hero had got fooled (which was a good twist for intermission) and then how it started resolving. The only thing I did not like was the climax- it seemed too convenient and simple, so much that it came across as impossible keeping in mind Yang Huan and Anguri's wily selves. The 'bluff' plan too seemed far fetched and impossible.
But other than that, I liked the film. There were bits of humour, there was good direction, background music , beautifully shot and had performances which were the soul of the film. Sushant my boy, felt so proud as a fan to see him owning the character so well, and he is truly getting better and better with every film! I had expected to read more praise of DBB the film than Sushant's work in it but the reverse has happened, and I'm so happy for the reviews he has got!
Anand Tiwari, again bloody good job, along with the third gem- Neeraj Kabi- fab fab! Supporting cast was good (chai wala guy lol, sardar taxi wala, paan addicted roommate, Meiyang Chang etc) The girls did not impress me much.
I'll be really sad if there is no sequel, cos even though the film turned out good and not great as everyone was expecting it to be, I think it holds a lot of potential to be taken ahead as a franchise cos it has a great setting and such good characters, plus Dibakar impressed me with the way he put forward the first part.

I really want to read the stories on which this film is based. From what i know it's Satyanweshi, Pother kanta and Arthamanartham. Does anyone know where I can read these stories online??
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: KochurShaakBata



YRF lost out a huge chunk of the audience in the east unlike Vicky Donor or Kahaani inspite of the film set in Calcutta because the WOM is really bad there because Dibakar hasn't stayed true to the Byomkesh Bakshi stroies. That is the common disappointment of every single person I have interacted with who loves the character of Byomkesh.


I haven't read any of the stories so I guess that's why I enjoyed it.



But Box Office reports say it did well in Kolkata.
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Posted: 10 years ago
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl2R-Eet15g[/YOUTUBE]


The last question was interesting...the reporter asked DB about why the film hadn't been promoted more considering it's scale and being from a YRF banner.


DB answered because it's a film that LOOKS big but is actually a small budget film by the typical bollywood parameters.

So maybe they just didn't have the budget to promote beyond however much they did...


I honestly still feel this was a tough film to promote and only after watching it could ppl really speak for it...WOM publicity is what would sell it best.
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Posted: 10 years ago
So ending up lower than Dum Laga Ke Haisha
Cast Ayushman in Paani 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
Interesting interview from Dibaker:

Dibakar on his detective

- I made the kind of film which rivets me " Dibakar Banerjee defends his Detective Byomkesh Bakshy!. Spoiler alert if you haven't watched the film

He first discovered Byomkesh Bakshi in his pre-teens. He's been eating, drinking and breathing Byomkesh for the last few years. Last Friday, Dibakar Banerjee's Detective Byomkesh Bakshy!, starring Sushant Singh Rajput as the young sleuth solving his first case in Calcutta 1943, opened to middling-to-positive reviews and above-average box office. t2 caught up with the man who has dared a contemporary take on Sharadindu Bandopadhyay's super sleuth.

Sushant Singh Rajput in Detective Byomkesh Bakshy!

Are you taken aback by some not-so-glowing reviews that Detective Byomkesh Bakshy! has got, considering most of your previous work has been unanimously critically acclaimed?
This is not the first time, actually. I did get slightly shocked and lukewarm reviews for Oye Lucky! (Lucky Oye!). The reviews for Shanghai were pretty glowing, but the other part was that some people said it was a depressing film! (Laughs) What happens is that none of my films prepares anyone for anything on the basis of prior experience. When I made Khosla (Ka Ghosla!), nobody was prepared. I was a beginner, a classic underdog. People slowly caught on to it. When I made Oye Lucky!, it was considered a complete departure from Khosla... Today, people club the two films together, but at that point, you can't imagine the kind of shock it gave people. Love Sex Aur Dhokha completely alienated a huge group who wanted to see a Hrishikeshian comedy and Shanghai alienated another group of people who wanted to come in and watch a typical, typical thriller. What I am seeing on my review tracking is three-and-a-half to four (stars) all over and I am talking about all the mainline dailies.

Of course, I am aware of some vociferous anti-Byomkesh reviews, but honestly, that was expected. I was stepping into hallowed ground. Honestly, I haven't even read the good reviews. I don't think any filmmaker, in his right mind, does read reviews. It doesn't matter. What matters to a filmmaker is what he believes in and what he has made. I am confident that what we have created is going to stay in posterity for a long, long time. I am saying this because I have visited cinema halls in Bombay and seen how people are reacting to the film... families are coming out with a smile on their faces. I have seen the box-office figures and Byomkesh is holding on pretty well, especially against the huge figures of the Fast & Furious film (Furious 7). I have seen Byomkesh rise step by step over the weekend. I am pretty satisfied that this is the Byomkesh I wanted to make and this is the Byomkesh that people are liking.

Have you got any feedback from the purists?
Yes, yes... I have been told that the purists in Calcutta are not happy. Honestly, they shouldn't be... they couldn't be. The word purist' means someone who believes in purity, which is, in some way, resistant to change. Now, if someone is a Byomkesh aficionado and knows the details of the Byomkesh ethos, then I could point out and tell him how everything that you see in my film stems from Sharadindu Bandopadhyay's own vision. I have just taken it forward.

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But why did you adapt Byomkesh and write a fresh story?
For two reasons... one is that when you adapt a book into a film, two things definitely need to change: what's good in a book to read may not be good in a film to watch; and what's not written in a book, but just hinted at, may well be the life of the film that you are seeing. These are the two main principles of how you successfully adapt a book into a film. The second aspect is that I wanted to investigate a very young Byomkesh's life... his origins... which Sharadindu Bandopadhyay, in his characteristically tantalising way, has explored. And I wanted to explore that further. So, this is me being a detective and going deep into the beginnings of Byomkesh. Why does a young man in 1943, in political turmoil and in war-torn Calcutta, in the middle of economic pressure and middle-class poverty, choose to become a detective and not a teacher or a clerk? This is the stuff that myths are made of and I think Sharadindubabu has created a mythical figure which, at its root, is a figure that is worth exploring beyond what he has already written.

The Chinese engaging in opium trade, Calcutta in the middle of political upheaval, the imminent danger of Japanese bombing, and your protagonist as an almost superhero-like character... don't you think you saddled Byomkesh with too much in his first case as well as the Hindi audience meeting him for the first time?
The cases that Byomkesh solves are never simple or mundane. Repeatedly, Sharadindu Bandopadhyay gives Byomkesh cases that are of national importance... Byomkesh has solved a case dealing with international espionage between a newly-independent India and its neighbours... he's been called by Sardar Patel to solve crimes of national importance. In this film, Byomkesh meets a nemesis (Yun Gong/ Anukul Guha) who comes back in a later case which is about an international WMD (Weapon of Mass Destruction). So I had to pave the way for that in my first film. Nothing in Byomkesh is simple. Sharadindu has written about surplus arms left behind by the American GI... he's written about drugs in Calcutta. He's been the source of everything that I have tried to tell in my film. What he has said in 30 stories has largely been encapsulated in one film. I had to make it in such a way that it provides an introduction to the first-time audience and yet shocks them.

I know it could be unacceptable to a certain section of the audience, but I stand by what I have made.

Don't you think the film could have been a little shorter and more crisp, especially in the first half?
Every film that I have made could have been a little shorter and a little more crisp(laughs). I think that the coming-of-age of Byomkesh as a human being is what the audience enjoys the most in the film. The solving of the case with every twist and turn of the plot is what keeps the audience hooked to the screen. To make the two come together seamlessly requires time. What I am hearing from normal film-going people is that You tied us to the seat for two hours'. Some people are saying that the first half takes its time, but I like the set up. Until and unless you set up your film and characters, you won't enjoy the film. So this is really about the kind of film you enjoy... some people love the pace of Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon or 2001: A Space Odyssey... they are so slow-paced and yet I find them riveting while some people love a film which doesn't give them time to reflect on what they are seeing. I made the kind of film which rivets me.

Looking back, is there anything you would have liked to do a little differently or a little better?
At least a hundred things, like all my other films (smiles). I don't think any film of mine has ever been finished... they have all been abandoned at the deadline.

What's the industry reaction been like from your peers and seniors?
Some of them have really liked it while some have been shocked and have stepped back in silence because they like me and won't say anything negative (laughs). I knew it would happen. I won't give you banality like, Oh, we are like a family... we are enjoying it together'... no! Shanghai had dismayed a lot of my industry peers.

Making films so different from anything you have done so far and alienating an audience... is that intentional or are you just making the films you want to make?
I think it's the latter, because I can't stay at the same place for too long. And the learning from one film has to make its way to the next. In Byomkesh, you will see learnings of Shanghai... camera movements, lighting... but the language is completely different.

How soon will we see the next Byomkesh film?
Well, right now, I plan to move on to another film because we all need a break from Byomkesh. After that, we move straight on to Byomkesh. I can't wait to work with Sushant again... he worked his ass off for Byomkesh. He's changed with this film. Detective Byomkesh Bakshy! has transformed Sushant Singh Rajput.

Edited by AreYaar - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Ipshy! 🤗 Long time indeed! So nice to see you here and glad to see you enjoyed the movie too!
Nice to see your response, Anu! Sorry got a bit too busy all of yesterday to be able to reply.

Excellent point about the Tarantino influence...I think it was mainly noticeable in the climax action sequences more though...otherwise the rest of it was very much a Dibaker brand of dry/satiric humor in many ways...his style is just not as gory as Tarantino's...lol...but yes the dark humor is deffo a common link...the influences are there but I find DB to be quite original in his film-making otherwise...and something very classically INDIAN cerebral about this...not a wannabe foreign cinema or copycat vibe to it...I think that is what really floored me.
Oh definitely! Thats exactly what I meant when I said the film is completely Indian in every way! Who can forget Dibakar's brand of film making anyways..I've managed to LOVE all of his movies right from Khosla to Shanghai..I like how you said it has that classic indian mind behind it. On top of that, such a nice ensemble cast of actors...awesome!

P.S. Did anyone mention the hilarious Sardarji Taxiwala and his exasperation with Byomkesh yet? Bahahaha I loved that too...the way he goes, "Is Babuji ka nut dheela hai"😆

Haha yes, I loved it a lot...And there were deffo many many more hilarious bits! It was the small things like when he went to have the drug test and scared off all the interviewees, how Ajit and Byomkesh managed to get rid of their follower on the streets, their first interaction with the Japaneese dentist haha and other small things which do not make you laugh out loud but they definitely make you smile heartily. Those simple nuances about how Byomkesh was always portrayed to be impatient, restless, street smart and intelligent but still naive... these traits reflected in each and every interaction of his in the movie. What kind of layered acting must it require...kudos to Sushant for this! And I liked his interactions with Anguri Devi a lot too. I don't know if he was mesmerized by her or what but she definitely intrigued him every time they met. And all her efforts to seduce him and all...very interesting dynamic there to watch! But later on when she turned out to be too much "in love" with Guha and revealed everything, she kinda lost some of her charm for me since she appeared too plain.


Speaking of the factory scene...the instant improv from Byomkesh there and getting Guha to play along "Mary had a little lamb"😆...and then the foreshadowing wala dialogue..."Sach ke aas paas wala jhoot pakadna mushkil hota hai"😆...how that comes back to haunt Byomkesh later.
Exactly!! This was the one of the highlights of the movie for me...and how true it is!

Not sure if the movie got its fair share at the box office but it was an awesome watch for me!!

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Ipshitaa


Oh definitely! Thats exactly what I meant when I said the film is completely Indian in every way! Who can forget Dibakar's brand of film making anyways..I've managed to LOVE all of his movies right from Khosla to Shanghai..I like how you said it has that classic indian mind behind it. On top of that, such a nice ensemble cast of actors...awesome!




Arey I just followed up on your description of the movie...totally agree with this...and this reminds me of an answer from DB in that FC Adda interview with Anupama...which I LOVED.


When talking about Sherlock, DB goes, "Kyunki woh ANGREZ hain na, woh har cheez ko CONSTIPATED banaa dete hain"🤣...everything becomes slightly tight...RAS thoda sa chalaa jaata hai"😆

I think he was essentially talking about cultural differences and the kind of interpretations you can have on the detective genre...the British versions have become the norm in a typical sense...but DB has produced a truly INDIAN interpretation of it from Sharadindu's works...that RAS that is specifically Indian...you can't HAVE it in a British work...the emotional nuances that are purely Indian in nature...lol


I love the PRIDE Dibaker takes in Indian literature and culture👏
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: SushitaLover23


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIDJeCfDdTw&feature=youtu.be[/YOUTUBE]




Fabulous watch!

I LOVE the PASSION with which DB describes this film and the the thought behind everything that went into it...I haven't seen any other filmmaker talk with THIS much passion...so genuinely EXCITED about his subject.


Highlights:;

1) DB saying that this film is essentially a fantasy played out from his 12-13 year old self's perspective in many ways


2) Urvi (the co-writer) is the one largely responsible for the underplaying of Byomkesh as a hero...DB had a slightly more larger than life entry in mind😆


3) The explanation of the coffee house scene (potato wedges wala shot) and DB saying the wedges signified how Byomkesh was feeling at that point😆...pichka hua...haha...that's one of my fav. scenes in the movie.


4) DB admitting that he could have added one more detail in the climax round table scene to clarify the opium trade reveal to YG...


5) DB constantly reiterating the fact that this film was about CHARACTER development more than a plot...everything else is embellishment...


6) The scene with Byomkesh getting high was much longer with him SINGING and all too😆...hahaha I really want to watch all the deleted scenes.
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Posted: 10 years ago
There's one line I'd like to underline in bold from the interview:

The movie was not so much about the mystery as it was about the character and his evolution/journey.
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Posted: 10 years ago
Ek Paheli Leela Dull At Multiplexes Detective Byomkesh Bakshi Has Poor First Week
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Ek Paheli Leela had a poor opening at multiplexes with better at single screens but that was not really good enough and the first day business will be on the lower side.

Dharam Sankat Mein had a very poor opening and will struggle to make any impact at the box office.

Broken Horses was even worse than Dharam Sankat Mein and is a washout at most centres.

Detective Byomkesh Bakshy grossed a poor 19.75 crore nett in week one with collections going down badly on the weekdays. FLOP

Fast & Furious 7 smashed all records for Hollywood releases in India is now the highest grossing Hollywood film in India and looking set to cross 100 crore nett.

Hunterrr will finish with a final total of 13 crore nett. BELOW AVERAGE.

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