Who has bigger Box Office pull? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Scorpio_Velvet

Kashyap, Dibankar etc not big commercial directors yet. They are only getting opportunity to work with big PH now. Santoshi did Phata Poster after super hit APKGK so he was in top form then.

As for others, they'll go with actors with better pull only. No one is gonna green lit 100 cr movie like BM with Shahid when his biggest grosser isn't 3/4th of that. That's a fact. Humpty didn't have higher budget than Shahid movies so VD deserves credit for that. People were drawn to him due to his screen presence even though he had done only 2 films. And he's building good fanbase now.

I agree. May be he has lost his fanbase... for me, he is a decent actor, dancer, 10 yrs+ in the industry but still his movies are not doing much...so definitely, there's a problem for Shahid.

But i will still want to wait for Udta Punjab to judge his pull because he is getting hot n happening Alia and Vikash Bahl so the movie must earn big. If this also settles around 50 crs, he is gone.

Originally posted by: KhanSinghTomar

I agree. May be he has lost his fanbase... for me, he is a decent actor, dancer, 10 yrs+ in the industry but still his movies are not doing much...so definitely, there's a problem for Shahid.

But i will still want to wait for Udta Punjab to judge his pull because he is getting hot n happening Alia and Vikash Bahl so the movie must earn big. If this also settles around 50 crs, he is gone.

Originally posted by: RockChicGirl

So you are saying Sid>Ranbir? 😆

No, he is saying you should forget HTP opening 😆..that's not a Sid movie

Originally posted by: Zah.Of.RoZaNa.

Wait then why are you comparing Shahid to this lot? It makes no sense.

Akshay's actually had a lot of hits in the 2000s which gives him the superstar status, not because he's been here for a long time. But his flops are what puts him behind the Khans, in ranking. That's where flops come in, to determine your success rate and your overall BO power.

Just like no one would say Arjun has more BO pull than Varun because the guy just gave two back to back flops, and his overall success rate sucks compared to Varun.

Shahid had kind of resurgence so I needed forum's opinion on BO pull.

Originally posted by: RockChicGirl

UP honestly sounds niche. It wont do much at the BO. Will help the actors bag a few nominations at awards next year. Shaandaar depending on how it is could do the trick. But then the director is Vikas Bahl who again is a pretty niche director...not every movie will be a Queen.

The problem for Shahid is good directors except Bhardwaj don't have faith in his capabilities to take him for their movies...this is a big disadvantage... Ranbir and Ranveer get them although both happen to churn out flops time to time 😆...That's the difference between two Rs and rest of the pack.

Originally posted by: Scorpio_Velvet

Shahid had kind of resurgence so I needed forum's opinion on BO pull.

I never said flops don't matter, but if one guy has 5 BBs and 5 flops while other has 8 average flicks and 2 hits, former will invariably be bigger star. So ability to give more or bigger hits has more weightage when it comes to measuring stardom. Khans are Khans 'cos they give biggest grossers and ATBBS as well.

Well okay I agree with you there.

But my original argument (on the first page) was how you didn't include Sid's average, which I think makes a huge difference in the Varun/Sid BO discussion. (Because IMO they're the only two with a decent BO pull from your list)

Originally posted by: KhanSinghTomar

The problem for Shahid is good directors except Bhardwaj don't have faith in his capabilities to take him for their movies...this is a big disadvantage... Ranbir and Ranveer get them although both happen to churn out flops time to time 😆...That's the difference between two Rs and rest of the pack.

Not just that. Both VB and Shahid had to agree to back-end deals to get 37 cr budget. That's due to his BO record.

Originally posted by: Zah.Of.RoZaNa.

Well okay I agree with you there.

But my original argument (on the first page) was how you didn't include Sid's average, which I think makes a huge difference in the Varun/Sid BO discussion. (Because IMO they're the only two with a decent BO pull from your list)

Yea, I didn't consider anything below Semi-hit. 😊

Originally posted by: Scorpio_Velvet

Not just that. Both VB and Shahid had to agree to back-end deals to get 37 cr budget. That's due to his BO record.

True, i had heard that too. So, that shows how dire is his situation... the forum loves Shahid but i dont remember a film where his acting impressed me so much..he was a mismatch in all of his best movies

it's all about hype.Recently varun