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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Bossman


The film didn't open well for many reasons, one of which was it was a remake of Dharmendra Vinod Khanna starrer super hit 'mera gaon mera desh' which was still running in theatres and all the bad reviews that sholay got where critics warned people to rather watch MGMD.

Speaking of star power, why was the comeback of 'the greatest superstar in the history of Indian cinema' such a dud which resulted in 5 back to back disasters? Mrityudaata, lal badshaah, kohraam, sooryavansham & hindustan ki kasam with the only saving grace being supporting roles in bade Miyan & major Saab? Why was such a demi god out of work, broke and had debtors up his you know what, so much so he had to beg Yash chopra for work?

KBC saved Bachchan. Stop spinning it like anyone actually cared for Bachchan over his contemporaries. He was forced to work due to his personal circumstances while the others have been comfortably retired for a while.


You want me to list Dharmendra's C grade films from 90s?😆

Check the BO openers list I posted. Hindustan ki kasam and BMCM are among top openers of their time. How many supporting stints of Dharmendra in 90s got good opening?

Amitabh might have begged Yash Chopra for work but he made magic with it.

KBC and Amitabh are synonymous with each other. Only Amitabh's charisma made it the first non fiction daily show to top TRP charts. It is still most watched show of 2000s decade according to Indiantelevision.com. And we know what happened when other stars took over KBC. Many others tried to copy Amitabh but show like Jeeto chhapar phaad ke, Sawaal 10 crore ka etc just failed.

You can list films like Boom for Amitabh but not list of trash done by Dharmendra. He has nothing in old age except YPD films. Heck! Even his wife Hema gave hit Baghban with Amitabh in late age!

Amitabh won his first top star of the millennium poll when he was not even working and was yet to make comeback. He was doing ads for BPL, Mirinda Lime even in 90s when no other oldie was being signed for endorsements.

This is not spin. Amitabh's clear superiority over other oldies is a fact. He is the last person to need spin.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42
It was Dharam's sifarish BigB got the role in the movie! Of course, Dharam was the initial crowd puller, the Gabbar stole the show. The it came down to Jai.. and then may be Thakur to Basanti to mausi to Dhanno to Kalia to Sambha to Angrez ke jamane ke jailor to Surma bhopali to Budhe chaha to 2 headed coin to.. to the villager who says "ye angrez log marte kyu hai? "
Oh damn, i think I forgot the Bajarang Bali speaking.. "sorry Hanuman ji.."
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44
Don't know about who pulled the crowds or whatever but I personally LOVED Amitabh's character and he clearly stole the show right from under Dharmendar's nose...with very few dialogs, no songs, no proper romantic angle( though I loved his and Jaya's mute love story)...
...I believe after watching the movie's premier Dharmendar got really mad at the director for making Amitabh's character appear more interesting than his, even though he was a bigger star than Amitabh at that time...
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45
I wasn't born then... Don't know🥱
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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: atominis


You want me to list Dharmendra's C grade films from 90s?😆

Check the BO openers list I posted. Hindustan ki kasam and BMCM are among top openers of their time. How many supporting stints of Dharmendra in 90s got good opening?

Amitabh might have begged Yash Chopra for work but he made magic with it.

KBC and Amitabh are synonymous with each other. Only Amitabh's charisma made it the first non fiction daily show to top TRP charts. It is still most watched show of 2000s decade according to Indiantelevision.com. And we know what happened when other stars took over KBC. Many others tried to copy Amitabh but show like Jeeto chhapar phaad ke, Sawaal 10 crore ka etc just failed.

You can list films like Boom for Amitabh but not list of trash done by Dharmendra. He has nothing in old age except YPD films. Heck! Even his wife Hema gave hit Baghban with Amitabh in late age!

Amitabh won his first top star of the millennium poll when he was not even working and was yet to make comeback. He was doing ads for BPL, Mirinda Lime even in 90s when no other oldie was being signed for endorsements.

This is not spin. Amitabh's clear superiority over other oldies is a fact. He is the last person to need spin.


You're so blinded by your love for Bachchan, that its hard for you to see logic.

1) KBC a spin-off of " Who wants to be a millionaere" is a TRP magnet in 10's of countries. Its the format of the show, not Bachchan that made it what it is.

2) Like I said, Dharmendra is retired. He has no need to work or beg for work for that matter. Bachchan had to come out of retirement because of his failure in every other venture of his whether politics or business. He had to come back and work like a dog just to get out of debt. Other's probably had no need to.

You can keep claiming that Bachchan is above and beyond other superstars but facts say otherwise. Khans have a better success rate as do the trinity of Dilip Kumar-Raj Kapoor-Dev Anand. Then there's Rajendra Kumar & Rajesh Khanna.

Bachchan's box office record is dismal. The majority of his films in his hey-day range from averages to Hits. Dharmendra wasn't any better but he sure wasn't any less either. He was the only actor who wouldn't play second fiddle to Bachchan and commanded about the same pay packet.( BOI down the years had yearly salaries which seem to have vanished now).

Regardless, I'm done repeating myself over and over. For me Bachchan is a top 10 star of all time. His box office record cannot be compared to the greatness of others.

P.S When did I call Dilip Kumar a media made star? Either you're mistaken or you have serious reading comprehensions.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#47
Mr Bossman
You clearly are blinded by Bachchan hatred. Not my problem if you did not see links which I posted about BO stats.

Inflation adjusted also, Amitabh has 15 all time grossers and is comparable only to Dilip Kumar.

You keep re writing your own BO history, stats, history, logic.

It will not change reality. You just want to hold on to your view and will not see any proof posted.

Yes Amitabh worked to pay off debt but he succeeded the way no oldie did.

You did not accept lists of other actors' films even in your so called quality filmd thread.

You declare verdict. You cannot debate.

Keep up your views. I am not going to waste anymore time with someone who makes his own facts. Bye bye.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48
Here is another list of Amitabh BO. Check how many hits and universal successes he had - http://web.archive.org/web/20030801213418/boxofficeindia.com/amitabh.htm
And here is list of top draws of BO, Amitabh tops - http://ibosnetwork.com/asp/topactors.asp?isactress=false

But no. No look at official stats.

Your Dharmendra had not retired. Go to IMDB and see the trash he did in 90s. Not even B grade but C grade. Only saving grace was a chacha role in PKTDK.

Anyway welcome to stay in dreamland.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: atominis

Mr Bossman

You clearly are blinded by Bachchan hatred. Not my problem if you did not see links which I posted about BO stats.

Inflation adjusted also, Amitabh has 15 all time grossers and is comparable only to Dilip Kumar.

You keep re writing your own BO history, stats, history, logic.

It will not change reality. You just want to hold on to your view and will not see any proof posted.

Yes Amitabh worked to pay off debt but he succeeded the way no oldie did.

You did not accept lists of other actors' films even in your so called quality filmd thread.

You declare verdict. You cannot debate.

Keep up your views. I am not going to waste anymore time with someone who makes his own facts. Bye bye.


Thats for the best.

I can't argue with someone whose so blinded by his love for some star that he can't see the achievements of other actors. 15 all time grossers? 😆 The man couldn't even produce a solo blockbuster.

Anyways I've spent enough time arguing over the old perv. Enjoy your bachchan fandom!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50
@Bossman
Yeah sure. You know more than the trade itself.

If you are truly into facts then check proofs then debate.

Opinions are free anyway.😆

Old perv? You mean Mr Tinku Jiya who now does ads for andey?😆
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