Salman and Akshay have proved that the older lot of actors is STAYING! - Page 8

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Posted: 11 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: meribaat

Like the Khans, but I do not want to see them romance Alia or younger 😵 so at some point and soon, like in the next 5 years they have to go. They are 47.

Problem is, there is a huge gap between them and Ranbir's generation, what should be the in between decade of stars most of them have crashed and burned. Out of the people who debuted after the Khans like Bobby, Abhi, Akshay Khanna and Rahul Khanna, Vivek, Uday, Tusshar, Saif, Ajay Devgan, Shahid Kapoor only Hrithik has a career to even challenge them and Akki. Ajay is not in their league stardom wise. Who is left ? Saif ? Nawab is barely hanging as an actor, he has a better track record as a producer and Shahid is one flop away from forever going.

Ranbir will be a superstar someday, but not with a 7 year career, everyone else has even less. The Khans were not superstars in 7 years. He needs time to build a base. The Khans can bring in the masses. Even films like JaiHo, RaOne, JTHJ and they were terrible can bring in 100 crores. It is because of the fanbase the Khans have. They each have 25+ years of a career. To stay that long is nothing short of remarkable.

Hollywood is changing, the era of the superstar like a Tom Cruise is ending. Audiences and tastes are changing, So too I think probably BW and it will depend more on the content of film than the name behind it.

Khans are not dying to act with alia. They can always approach deepika priyanka Kareena ect for their movies and can always go for senior actresses.

Actually the heroines are in advantage there as they won't fade away soon as khans can always approach them. Khans are brand themselves, they need only a decent heroine to make their movies blockbuster. Kick has Jacqueline who is not a A lister but you can easily tell that movie will be BB or possibly ATBB.

Ready is another movie which didn't had a A lister still that movie was BB. As long as they chose decent herione their movie is a guarantee success. Khans don't have to act with alia even after 5 or 6 years
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Posted: 11 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: atominis

I find nothing outstanding in Ranbir's 7 year record. SRK had load of hits in first 7 years and roles ranging from Darr, Baazigar, Anjaam, KHKN to DDLJ, KKHH. Aamir had Raakh, QSQT, Dil, AAA and did manage to give a yearly top grosser despite clash. Salman had 2 ATBBs in first 7 years, and did have romantic hits as well as ones laced with action like Karan Arjun and showed comic timing in AAA.

In past there was Anil Kapoor who was doing different roles like tapori, lover, mentally challenged, regular action hero and succeeding.

What extraordinary thing Ranbir has done? He is nice but nothing extra special.

And I disagree Khans have forgotten to act. Not all of them. Aamir was good in Talaash and fab in couple of scenes where he remembers his dead son.

Why Ranbir still needs more time? Khans gave ATBBs in first 7 years! Always buying time to excuse him.

I agree with your post. And also SRK, Salman initial movies like DDLJ, MNPK,HAHK changed the fate of Indian cinema, whereas none of Ranbir's movies have the same impact. Ranbir's ATBB are similar to Khan's earlier movies and he is lucky now a days they are measuring success with 100crs unlike Khan's initial career where their movies use to run for years.😆😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

I find nothing outstanding in Ranbir's 7 year record. SRK had load of hits in first 7 years and roles ranging from Darr, Baazigar, Anjaam, KHKN to DDLJ, KKHH. Aamir had Raakh, QSQT, Dil, AAA and did manage to give a yearly top grosser despite clash. Salman had 2 ATBBs in first 7 years, and did have romantic hits as well as ones laced with action like Karan Arjun and showed comic timing in AAA.

In past there was Anil Kapoor who was doing different roles like tapori, lover, mentally challenged, regular action hero and succeeding.

What extraordinary thing Ranbir has done? He is nice but nothing extra special.

And I disagree Khans have forgotten to act. Not all of them. Aamir was good in Talaash and fab in couple of scenes where he remembers his dead son.

Why Ranbir still needs more time? Khans gave ATBBs in first 7 years! Always buying time to excuse him.



Hrithik doesn't have an ATBB in 14 years. Aamir had one in D3 since 2000. SRK doesn't have one since 2000 afaik. So maybe times have changed compared to 90s!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: -Ranjha-


So u mean 2 say Salman doesn't have any lines to say in his movies, all his movies are SILENT MOVIES? To Say lines, you have to ACT, the basic need 2 do a FILM. If he is such a bad Actor, Why is he survived this far now? Hell, he wasn't doing masala in start even... He started with ROMANTIC ATBB, a record which is still unbreakable. HAHK, Romantic film.

If Ranbir is such a Good Actor, Why Besharam failed? Why Aurangzed Failed? They are good actors just for 1 film? Barfi or 2 States... Hell u guys won't be naming Arjun in comparison 2 Salman if he wouldn't have done 2 States...

CRITICS jiss film ko pasand karle, woh Quality film, Celeb doing it becomes ACTOR, phir chahe woh ghatiya se ghatiya film kion na karle 😆


By this logic what KRK does should also be called acting 😆

Since when is saying lines required for acting, If it were Charlie Chaplin wouldnt be considered one of the finest actors in the world
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Posted: 11 years ago
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If those films are not Entertaining, then how the hell they are in the list of history's Biggest Grorssers?? While Entertaining films in your definition are way below them?

I ain't mocking on purpose, it's you guys who will bring comparison, Jai Ho is picked up as if Salma did Jai Ho only in last 5 years, Pick ETT, then tell me if he is less than any NewBie, Saaley Day 1 se koi match nahi kar payega for that film, why pic Jai Ho only in every way?

Not just Jai Ho, Salman's every big film is picked up n mocked, even Salman fans referred to only Autorickshaw ppl n low class loving those films.

So i am replying in same manner, here in this thread Jai Ho is compared to Top grossers of Newbies films, while Salman's top grosser ETT koi discuss karke raazi ni, pata hai all those films will sound small in comparison.

Also now Jai Ho's fate is cleared, so everyone making challenges ke Jai Ho 2013 mein aati toh yehi haal hota, which they wouldn't have said before release of Jai Ho.

Same way Challenge now about KICK, i wanna see which Newbie will release it's films with Salman's FILMS. Or Any Other upcoming Salman film 2 be challenged with Newbie's films??
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Posted: 11 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: GundayVedant

No I disagree with last point of yours
RIGHT NOW(IN OTHER WORDS CURRENTLY) they aren't
When you watch films like D3, CE or Jai Ho - you might be mesmerized by their star power but at same point they irritate you or make you cring with their overacting/underacting

Sara you yourself don't like current breed of actors... So that's why you aren't agreeing that these Khans have forgot how to act. Among actors its Ranbir and HR which are good actors now, for be former being at top

I don't think " forget acting " applies here. Just because dhoom 3 wasn't aamir best doesn't mean he has forgotten to act. Actually aamir acting in dhoom was good it's just that script sucked. Taalash which released in 2012 was amazing movie and aamir was fabulous in that movie. Other examples are 3 idiots, gajini, RDB which are not that old movies.

Shahrukh give my name is khan which was a amazing performance. Salman gives dabbang which was a great performance and these movies released in 2010 which is not that long ago. HR did krish which wasn't a amazing performance from him. His recent best performance was Guzarish and exactly that year SRK did my name is khan and Salman did Dabbang.

I don't think an actor who already knows how to act ever forgets acting. You can say that salman Shahrukh didn't tried to act in jai ho and CE but that doesn't mean they don't know how to act or have forgotten acting.

Yes I don't like any actor from younger lot but that's my personal preference. It has nothings to do with this.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: scorpio_bins



Hrithik doesn't have an ATBB in 14 years. Aamir had one in D3 since 2000. SRK doesn't have one since 2000 afaik. So maybe times have changed compared to 90s!


Aamir's 3 Idiots and Ghajini are ATBBs.

What was rating for BO of CE? Need to cross check.

Hrithik did not have ATBB but at least gave yearly top grosser twice in 7 years unlike dhakka start gaadi Ranbir Kapoor whose film is never even second biggest hit of the year.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: scorpio_bins



Hrithik doesn't have an ATBB in 14 years. Aamir had one in D3 since 2000. SRK doesn't have one since 2000 afaik. So maybe times have changed compared to 90s!


Comparison when made, you should perform that way also, It was BOI renovation which made Salman's ATBB Dabangg BB, Aamir's ATBB Ghajini BB, otherwise you would be having 3 ATBB's in last 5 years of KHANS.

Ranbir in 7 year had just 1 BlockBuster, while KHANS in their initial 7 years had way bigger ATBB/BB/HITS/SUPERHITS.

Time has changed, so is infrastructure, Movie like Barfi also make 100 cr just coz today Multiplex audience are ready to pay 150-200 rs a ticket, while when Khan's debuted that time Ticket rate was just 10-15 rs. Barfi got critical acclaim, Social Media Help, Print Media Help which pushed its business, while when Khan's debuted, only Radio was source of Entertainment. No TV promotions.

KHANS have made RECORDS in Every structure. While Ranbir, just in Plex way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis


Aamir's 3 Idiots and Ghajini are ATBBs.

What was rating for BO of CE? Need to cross check.

Hrithik did not have ATBB but at least gave yearly top grosser twice in 7 years unlike dhakka start gaadi Ranbir Kapoor whose film is never even second biggest hit of the year.



Forgot about 3 I.

Ghajini and CE are BBs.

http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Movies/movie_detail/ghajini#.U6Xw2JSSw9k
http://www.boxofficeindia.com/Movies/movie_detail/chennai_express#.U6XxApSSw9k
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Ranjha-


Comparison when made, you should perform that way also, It was BOI renovation which made Salman's ATBB Dabangg BB, Aamir's ATBB Ghajini BB, otherwise you would be having 3 ATBB's in last 5 years of KHANS.

Ranbir in 7 year had just 1 BlockBuster, while KHANS in their initial 7 years had way bigger ATBB/BB/HITS/SUPERHITS.

Time has changed, so is infrastructure, Movie like Barfi also make 100 cr just coz today Multiplex audience are ready to pay 150-200 rs a ticket, while when Khan's debuted that time Ticket rate was just 10-15 rs. Barfi got critical acclaim, Social Media Help, Print Media Help which pushed its business, while when Khan's debuted, only Radio was source of Entertainment. No TV promotions.

KHANS have made RECORDS in Every structure. While Ranbir, just in Plex way.



Just for the record. Raajneeti was also BB according to BOI original status. After update they changed it to SH like other films.

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