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Posted: 11 years ago
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Not meant to hurt any fangroup, just my two cents:

Varun: Needs to balance his films out and not just stick to formula films which can pull the masses. Although as my Mom says, in the long run, it might not be a bad strategy- if he manages to build a fanbase first, he can afford to take risks later.

Sid M : There is something lacking in this guy, I can't explain it properly, let me try- he looks dheela to me. Very dheela screen presence. I observed his interviews, songs etc. then finally it hit me in the drama queen song. Acting etc. he is working on but he needs to do something about this also, though I don't know what. Oh and yes, he needs to take dance classes.

Sushant: Needs to use his strengths as well. He is a black belt, a brilliant dancer, he has this romantic boy image from TV and girls who love him for it- is he using any of it? No. Other actors are using their strengths- as a dancer, showing off their body, good looks etc- he isn't. The movies he chooses don't have dance-y songs, he hasn't done a proper 'hero wala' character, he is dressed very simply with tussled hair in his movies. While I really really appreciate his choice of movies and characters and hope that he keeps picking good stuff, I would hope he just keep this little thing at the back of his head too or at least start doing more stage performances! (I trust him to think of some choreography concept for his slow songs too!)The reason I am excited for PK is bcos he has a dance number in that film along with Anushka.

Ayushmaan: He needs to do something really fast if he has to survive. Start with gettiing out of rom-com or comedy genre and stop playing the delhi/punjabi boy next door in every movie.

Aditya: I haven't observed him that well and I haven't seen his films. As of now I'll say he needs to sign more films, maybe?

Arjun: He needs to step up his acting skills! He disappointed me in Gundey. I haven't seen his other films, don't know how bad or good he was in them.
Edited by nikitagmc - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Does anyone else find it sad that I actually found flaws for each of them? Barring Sushant's one, the other ones were serious issues. I didn't find nearly as many flaws in Ranbir Kapoor, Shahid Kapoor and Ranveer Singh when they debuted. Honestly, Bollywood needs to raise standards as to who can debut in the industry. Nowadays anybody can become a movie star.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rambo.Rajkumar

I agree with most. But with Varun. I see the potential in him. One thing I hope he avoids is attempting to repeat whats already been done. Like Salman & Govinda image. He can act decently and has decent comic timing and dance pretty good. He can be a mass hero. But hope he explores more in subtle and strong script films. His film with Sriram Raghvan's sounds good. (rumoured to have Aish). Also with Sushant. I hope he also explores something lighter by doing completely opposite so he can attract mass audiences equally. As for Arjun. He just needs to polish up a bit. Other than that he is fine.

I wish to see Sushant. Varun and Arjun in many films in coming years. Sid M is someone I am not fond off. Well as of now. Ayushmann annoys me. & ARK - I just cant see him going too far for some reasons. One thing I noticed is Sid & ARK's lover boy image really worked well with the young girls. But hey. They cant continue doing it throughout their career. I mean they can't pull of another SRK



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I think right now all of them are trying to find a niche and trying out their own strategies. Varun spoke on Masand's show that BO is more important hence maybe he is going for these type of films first, with Sushant it's reverse- he said critics are important to him and he wants to be part of good films hence his choices. Sid M and ARK seem to be aiming for the romantic hero niche, Sid in particular is part of 3 love stories and Priceless also seems to be a love story again. Arjun ka, I don't know, rugged macho roles or grey shaded roles? Barring 2 states, his roles seem to be of that type.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parko

Does anyone else find it sad that I actually found flaws for each of them? Barring Sushant's one, the other ones were serious issues. I didn't find nearly as many flaws in Ranbir Kapoor, Shahid Kapoor and Ranveer Singh when they debuted. Honestly, Bollywood needs to raise standards as to who can debut in the industry. Nowadays any lallu can become a movie star.

What made Ranbir a star? APKGK?
Ranveer? Ramleela?
Shahid? Vivah?
And honestly those films didn't really showcase their talent. It was their character that connected with the audiences. And no not anyone can become a star. I mean how many star kids to outsiders have failed to do so in last 10 years
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Posted: 11 years ago
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i almost agree with you.specially on sushant part..
he looks good but he does not have apeal to become a BW actor.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parko

Does anyone else find it sad that I actually found flaws for each of them? Barring Sushant's one, the other ones were serious issues. I didn't find nearly as many flaws in Ranbir Kapoor, Shahid Kapoor and Ranveer Singh when they debuted. Honestly, Bollywood needs to raise standards as to who can debut in the industry. Nowadays any lallu can become a movie star.



I don't know about others, but honestly speaking I didn't find Ranbir, Shahid or Ranveer perfect either when they debuted. Shahid, maybe, to some extent, but definitely not Ranbir or Ranveer. Even then when I compare only their first films, Ranveer> Ranbir except for the looks factor. Just like we are picking at script choices of newcomers now, Ranbir too did some silly films, for example Anjana Anjani. Shahid on the other hand rejected lots of good films.
They have all made progress with time and worked on their flaws. The newcomers right now have just done 2-3 films. Hopefully they will all get better with time too. Good thing for them is that right now outsiders are being accepted and all type of films being encouraged by industry as well as audience, so they will find it a little easier to stick to the films they really want to do.

BTW, good topic!👍🏼
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think the worst are Ayushmann, Varun and Siddharth
Ayushmann has already aged out a considerable amount. He entered the industry bit too late. I think he is better as a TV host. Most likely be relegated to comedy films. His look suites that department.

Varun- well I have not really seen any diversity. I thought student of the year was not very good. Maybe because I am no a teenage girl. Did not show any ability other than something cliche and contrived. His new film it's pretty much the same role just different characters, scene and him.

High school bad boy who is girl hungry. He is going to have to show his diversity in acting because he is going to grow out of those Teen films eventually.

Still not sure about Siddharth. Barely noticed him in his first film. Saw the trailer with him and Parineeti. Looks interesting but it seems she is the star of the movie. Most likely he will disappear in the background.

Aashiqui 2 got good reviews. Aditya is safe with his film.

Heard Rajputs debute film is quite good aswell. Have to see it.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rambo.Rajkumar

What made Ranbir a star? APKGK?
Ranveer? Ramleela?
Shahid? Vivah?
And honestly those films didn't really showcase their talent. It was their character that connected with the audiences. And no not anyone can become a star. I mean how many star kids to outsiders have failed to do so in last 10 years


Their talent... the fact that they were better actors than any of these new guys right from their first film. I understand that this new lot is surely better than the Fardeen Khan or Zayed Khan types but shouldn't the industry evolve? For that to happen we need talented actors like Ranbir, Ranveer or Shahid. Not mediocre actors like many of the newcomers I mentioned. I'm sorry but that's what I feel.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Parko

Does anyone else find it sad that I actually found flaws for each of them? Barring Sushant's one, the other ones were serious issues. I didn't find nearly as many flaws in Ranbir Kapoor, Shahid Kapoor and Ranveer Singh when they debuted. Honestly, Bollywood needs to raise standards as to who can debut in the industry. Nowadays anybody can become a movie star.

i agree on this line..now some sidharth shukla is coming as a 2nd lead in a movie with alia bhat..
and also some karan wahi in a movie with parineeti,,
actually i dont find Ali zafar that gud to be in BW movie as lead actor.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yeah, good thread. I agree with most of your observations about other actors especially Sid. I think he lacks that connect on screen. Its hard to overcome that. I always felt the same about John and AB jr and they haven't changed that.

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