All is not well between Kareena Kapoor & Sanjay Leela Bhansali - Page 5

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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking

This forum right now is a perfect example of how success is ultimately worshiped beyond any reason or inclination. Kareena has been getting absolutely smashed (deservedly or not), with even her previous fans going in hard on her and trashing her entire career, while Ranveer has been showered with heaps of praises and adulation, magically reeling in a whole new fanbase and being hailed as the next superstar. Surely and understandably so, it is how this business works, where success is the ultimate and only winner. But it's all funny in light of how stans spend so much time swearing by, worrying, arguing, collecting stats, and brandishing bragging rights about their faves. Today it's these two who are the target of people's extremism...'they either hate you or love you,' and tomorrow it'll be someone else, and so on, all replaceable...eventually only money and rising sun are the last 'men' standing. Succeed and they forgive everything. Fail, show flaw, or live your life the way you want and they forget everything.

I was gonna say the exact same thing..May be not as well as you though😆 But yeah, i was just gonna say how Bebo is being trashed like no tomorrow after the dismal performance of GTPM😆 Its not just success..Its mob mentality too IMO..Ranveer was the most despised actor on this forum just a few months back..I distinctly remember how a lot of them were horrified that a gorgeous girl like DP is dating such a fugly looking guy..But in no time, i saw so many members gushing about him & i have no idea how this change came about😆 It has nothing to do with RL cos this started long before even the first poster was released😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking

This forum right now is a perfect example of how success is ultimately worshiped beyond any reason or inclination. Kareena has been getting absolutely smashed (deservedly or not), with even her previous fans going in hard on her and trashing her entire career, while Ranveer has been showered with heaps of praises and adulation, magically reeling in a whole new fanbase and being hailed as the next superstar. Surely and understandably so, it is how this business works, where success is the ultimate and only winner. But it's all funny in light of how stans spend so much time swearing by, worrying, arguing, collecting stats, and brandishing bragging rights about their faves. Today it's these two who are the target of people's extremism...'they either hate you or love you,' and tomorrow it'll be someone else, and so on, all replaceable...eventually only money and rising sun are the last 'men' standing. Succeed and they forgive everything. Fail, show flaw, or live your life the way you want and they forget everything.


but no matter how much I scrutinize her (I am not her "fan"...that would be taking things too far)...I want with all my HEART for her to succeed...that is IF her definition of "success" matches mine. If not, then I am fine with that too.😆 She seems to have a stable personal life, she has acknowledged several times she's happy...so if she really is, then I wish her all the best. She deserves to live her life on her own terms. As someone who took interest in her work, I feel she owed me more...😆 in terms of her work...I made sure to watch her films and contribute to her success so maybe that's why I feel I have the right to scrutinize her.

Ranveer's case is different altogether! 😆 Anything, anyone DP is associated with is favored this season. It's the first rule of being a fan: thou shalt love thy star's friends; thou shalt not love thy star's enemies. 😆 I can't wait for his film with Anushka to begin...& I am too sleepy to type why I feel that way.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

Hey, I'm her die hard fan, and I'm still standing by her.😊

Will do till Bebo stops working, period. Will watch her in crap films, will wish her well, always.

Been with her for 13 years. Grown up watching her. She's the only reason I'm into bollywood, period. I dont watch other films.

This year was terrible, but I have something to look forward to in Bullett Raja. Film may or not not do well, but I am excited about it. Saif looks like he's smashed it.



Don't take this the wrong way but you should watch other films. Broadened horizons mean a richer perspective and perspective is everything. Bebo could have benefited immensely from a broadened perspective quite frankly.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

Hey, I'm her die hard fan, and I'm still standing by her. 😊

Will do till Bebo stops working, period. Will watch her in crap films, will wish her well, always.

Been with her for 13 years. Grown up watching her.


Props to you. I'm not a fan of your type of stanning or Kareena, but at least you are not a paltu. The people who stick by you and do not forget your achievements and abilities even after you've run out of fuel are the only ones who saw something genuine to begin the journey with you and are worth having the support of. I'm sure she will either pick herself up again and even if she may not regain 'success' according to people's standards, she'll live. And gregariously so, as per her personality 😆 Times change for all people and the sun sets on everyone. She's lucky that it rose on her at some point because that doesn't happen for everyone. I'll acknowledge that and give her due if it makes any difference in what seems to be the witch hunt of the moment.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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If not for deepika Ram leela won't even be a hit even with such a "wonderful" actor like ranveer,It would meet the same fate like lootera even If the great KKK acted in the film..#FACT ..Now people do give credit to deepika also
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I watch the films that excite me.
I watched, for instance, Paan Singh Tomar and Kai Po Che, being my recent favorites.

Last year, I loved Mujhse Fraandship Karoge.
When I say "bollywood" i mean the glitz and glam of watching the bigger stars onscreen. I prefer watching the smaller films. They definitely intrigue me a lot more. I dont count them as a "bollywood" per say, lol.

My Bollywood is limited to just Bebo and Saifu.

Other than that, I love movies in general, not just Indian, any films, any language, any culture. As long as I have subtitles, I'm down to watch anything.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kitkataha


but no matter how much I scrutinize her (I am not her fan...that would be taking things too far)...I want with all my HEART for her to succeed...that is IF her definition of "success" matches mine. If not, then I am fine with that too.😆 She seems to have a stable personal life, she has acknowledged several times she's happy...so if she really is, then I wish her all the best. She deserves to live her life on her own terms. As someone who took interest in her work, I feel she owed me more...😆 in terms of her work...I made sure to watch her films and contribute to her success so maybe that's why I feel I have the right to scrutinize her.

Ranveer's case is different altogether! 😆 Anything, anyone DP is associated with is favored this season. It's the first rule of being a fan: thou shalt love thy star'ss friends; thou shalt not love thy star's enemies. 😆 I can't wait for his film with Anushka to begin...& I am too sleepy to type why I feel that way.

Word to everything you said😆 Despite everything, i cant help but hope that she comes back with a bang..Its very strenuous to be a fan IMO😆 I have had enough experiences with being a die hard Federer fan..I know its stupid cos they are random ppl who don know you exist but you end up being so invested that you cant help but feel sorry when they fail..So i totally get what the die hard Bebo fans must be going through..Atleast for their sake, i hope she does well 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: kabeeraspeaking


Props to you. I'm not a fan of your type of stanning or Kareena, but at least you are not a paltu. The people who stick by you and do not forget your achievements and abilities even after you've run out of fuel are the only ones who saw something genuine to begin the journey with you and are worth having the support of. I'm sure she will either pick herself up again and even if she may not regain 'success' according to people's standards, she'll live. And gregariously so, as per her personality 😆 Times change for all people and the sun sets on everyone. She's lucky that it rose on her at some point because that doesn't happen for everyone. I'll acknowledge that and give her due if it makes any difference in what seems to be the witch hunt of the moment.


Pardon, but what is "stanning"?
And yeah, everyone goes through ups and downs, career lulls, highs, and hey, even winds down.
Who am I to hope that Bebo forever remains a afloat. SHe gave me 13 years of a entertainment (on and offscreen). And it's not like she's literally bid bollywood goodbye.

It's kinda the thing on IF to start predicting downfalls, etc.
She has projects in the pipeline. Recently one with Farhan Akhar really has me excited coz I personally love the Akhtar's style of cinema. Zoya and Farhan both. Shuddhi shall begin soon, and the one with Dharma-Ekta, at least from what producers are saying and Bebo, begins mid next year.


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: kitkataha

but no matter how much I scrutinize her (I am not her fan...that would be taking things too far)...I want with all my HEART for her to succeed...that is IF her definition of "success" matches mine. If not, then I am fine with that too.😆 She seems to have a stable personal life, she has acknowledged several times she's happy...so if she really is, then I wish her all the best. She deserves to live her life on her own terms. As someone who took interest in her work, I feel she owed me more...😆 in terms of her work...I made sure to watch her films and contribute to her success so maybe that's why I feel I have the right to scrutinize her.

Ranveer's case is different altogether! 😆 Anything, anyone DP is associated with is favored this season. It's the first rule of being a fan: thou shalt love thy star's friends; thou shalt not love thy star's enemies. 😆 I can't wait for his film with Anushka to begin...& I am too sleepy to type why I feel that way.


Let's agree on that. It's 4 in the morning for me and while my brain isn't half working to pick on the first part (I've fanned too many people in my time who have tapped nothing of their potential and still continue respecting & wishing them as well), it very much agrees on both accounts in the last part 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rogerrocks

Word to everything you said😆 Despite everything, i cant help but hope that she comes back with a bang..Its very strenuous to be a fan IMO😆 I have had enough experiences with being a die hard Federer fan..I know its stupid cos they are random ppl who don know you exist but you end up being so invested that you cant help but feel sorry when they fail..So i totally get what the die hard Bebo fans must be going through..Atleast for their sake, i hope she does well 😆


The funny thing is, a die hard Bebo fan who has no connect to the online world wouldnt think twice of anything or go through anything.
Isolated, it's just a typical bad year Bebo normally has had in her career. A tremendously bad one, I"ll give her that, but she seems to be doing perfectly fine, because hse's not reading what people are saying.

That is what makes it difficult for fans. Not films doing bad or good, and not the future prospects coz I personally think she'll be ok. But it's the whole movement to lynch her alive that's the challenging part for die hard fans. And the fact that, lets get real, every star has haters that are just waiting to pop out and start celebrating failure, etc etc.


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