Aamir AND HIS NOT SO MIDAS TOUCH - Page 10

geez give him a break...

he has the highest grosser in indian cinema and 4 back to back hit films (RDB, Ghajini, TZP, 3 idiots)...its okay if his latest is a "semi hit"...we can excuse that...

Originally posted by: pathaka

geez give him a break...

he has the highest grosser in indian cinema and 4 back to back hit films (RDB, Ghajini, TZP, 3 idiots)...its okay if his latest is a "semi hit"...we can excuse that...

It happens to every actor not just him. Weren't people after Hrithik after his films bombed post KNPH? What happened to SRK every time some other actor's film did better or his own film failed to reach hit status? MNIK was ATBB overseas but mauled for not reaching 100 crore in India. RNBDJ was almost treated like a flop because Ghajini did 100. Latest is Salman Khan whose end is being predicted since Dabangg 2 failed to break ETT or 3I records.

Highest grosser ceases to matter after a point of time. Or else Sunny Deol was a top star till Dhoom 2 broke Gadar's record.

Amitabh Bachchan actually kept giving successful films till early 1992. But his end was pronounced the day Sunny/Anil/Sanju baba films did better or even comparable business to his films in 80s.

It is not like it's Aamir Khan alone who was singled out. Rather he's let off easily by media. Trade went silent, only BOI openly called Talaash an underperformer. Whereas others have plethora of articles analysing how the star went wrong!

Originally posted by: Skepblun

Firstly, it wasn't about records. Talaash is actually not even a hit (either by BOI, or Taran Adarsh or any other trade analyst).

Secondly, suspense films aren't risks from BO perspective. Gumnaam, Woh Kaun Thi, Gupt, Kahani etc. are all suspense films from different eras but they are at least hits.

Liking or disliking is of course individual preference.

@U-No-Poo

Aamir was not expected to give 200 crore hit. But at least a clean hit given his own past record in previous decade. It was always reported (from Lagaan days) if there's one guy who can give hit in any genre it is Aamir. So for a guy who gave blockbuster with a film like TZP (despite clash with Welcome), it was underperformance if his film now struggled to be a hit (when he's an even bigger star).

If Delhi Belly and Peepli Live were hits on his name alone and power of brand Aamir was everywhere written about, then it's only natural to expect his own solo starrer would be hit too.

I guess people were discussing that only.

Suspense hasn't really been the preferred genre but people have given hits with it in past and even present. A name like Aamir, was expected to do the same, if not better. That's what brought about discussion (either here or elsewhere).

Even if taken as a risk, then isn't Aamir believed to be the one to pull off success with risky projects? (After all, many used to write Aamir defines the "maximum limit" at box office for any genre!)

You like the film, so did some others, some didn't. Individual choices. But discussion here was based on verdicts and standards expected from names associated with film.

If discussions are about power of a star it is fine. If the same power is questioned, it's problematic. :/

Originally posted by: Skepblun

It happens to every actor not just him. Weren't people after Hrithik after his films bombed post KNPH? What happened to SRK every time some other actor's film did better or his own film failed to reach hit status? MNIK was ATBB overseas but mauled for not reaching 100 crore in India. RNBDJ was almost treated like a flop because Ghajini did 100. Latest is Salman Khan whose end is being predicted since Dabangg 2 failed to break ETT or 3I records.

Highest grosser ceases to matter after a point of time. Or else Sunny Deol was a top star till Dhoom 2 broke Gadar's record.

Amitabh Bachchan actually kept giving successful films till early 1992. But his end was pronounced the day Sunny/Anil/Sanju baba films did better or even comparable business to his films in 80s.

It is not like it's Aamir Khan alone who was singled out. Rather he's let off easily by media. Trade went silent, only BOI openly called Talaash an underperformer. Whereas others have plethora of articles analysing how the star went wrong!

err yes...aamir is treated differently because he is consistent unlike many others...

hirhtik had like 10 or something flops after KNPH...ofcourse if tomorrow, aamir gives 10 flops, he would be written off...but he hasnt even given more than 1 flop in a row or been consistently bad...for every flop he gave in the past decade or so, he gave atleast 2-3 superhits which are acclaimed as good products...he tips the ratio to the positive side all the time...he never has a prolonged "lull period" like salman, srk, amitabh or hrithik did...he bounces back almost instantly...

more importantly, aamir has more goodwill and credbility than the other two khans because of the fact that hes consistent and has a better script sense than the rest...

I think discussions on Talaash's BO performance are as fair as discussions on other BO performances. I do agree that in the media Aamir gets off the easiest of all stars..you won't see anyone bringing his scandals up (and there are plenty)...perhaps deservingly so.

Also, think about it...whatever the reason, SRK gets crucified for delivering "only a hit" by this same media. Yet the same media is dead quiet for Aamir when he doesn't even deliver a clean hit. Sure Aamir rightfully has a lot more goodwill, but the bias is obvious in press.

That being said, I don't think it's that big a deal if one film underperfroms. Like I'd said back when it released, the Khans have moved on beyond box office now.

He signed Dhoom 3 for the hit and it'll be the huge success. 😆 Same with PK.

He's consistent? Check his 90s record please. If average, above average films with just spurt of one ATBB and 2 superhits are consistency then Akshay Kumar is consistent too. Yes his previous decade has been definitely consistent so it helps. He does have more credibility than others because he's been controlled in his acts offscreen too.

Box office wise SRK's ratio hasn't been bad either. His last flop was in 2005. But his credibility is truly down in the dumps.

Yeah his script sense is decidedly better. Talaash is not half as bad as the bad films of other Khans (or Aamir's own bad films in past).

Originally posted by: Skepblun

He's consistent? Check his 90s record please. If average, above average films with just spurt of one ATBB and 2 superhits are consistency then Akshay Kumar is consistent too. Yes his previous decade has been definitely consistent so it helps. He does have more credibility than others because he's been controlled in his acts offscreen too.

Box office wise SRK's ratio hasn't been bad either. His last flop was in 2005. But his credibility is truly down in the dumps.

Yeah his script sense is decidedly better. Talaash is not half as bad as the bad films of other Khans (or Aamir's own bad films in past).

was talking abt the past decade only...like starting from the 2000s...aamir was pretty non existent in the 90s but he rose starting with Lagaan and DCH as "mr perfectionist"

and thts wht im saying...aamir is the only khan who has the "brand" of giving good films AND hit films together...neither of the other khans have tht...which is why the media treats him better

Originally posted by: chocolover89

I think discussions on Talaash's BO performance are as fair as discussions on other BO performances. I do agree that in the media Aamir gets off the easiest of all stars..you won't see anyone bringing his scandals up (and there are plenty)...perhaps deservingly so.

Also, think about it...whatever the reason, SRK gets crucified for delivering "only a hit" by this same media. Yet the same media is dead quiet for Aamir when he doesn't even deliver a clean hit. Sure Aamir rightfully has a lot more goodwill, but the bias is obvious in press.

That being said, I don't think it's that big a deal if one film underperfroms. Like I'd said back when it released, the Khans have moved on beyond box office now.

He signed Dhoom 3 for the hit and it'll be the huge success. 😆 Same with PK.

i think its also more to do with the fact tht JTHJ was a more people pleasing genre...it was the genre srk was expected to "OWN"...and given that, his performance was dissapointing..

whereas aamir with talaash delibrately kept the promotions low key and kept saying the film is not everyones cuppa tea (thereby limiting its audience)

I agree. But I guess these are the same reasons why he's being discussed too. Quality film+ hit film. You know his last decade's films mostly made it to top of best films lists or IMDb's yearly best films. Talaash is neither that. Nor a hit. Hence those talks about Midas touch, quality, expectations, underperformance etc.

One's reputation sometimes becomes like an albatross hanging around the neck.