Recognise desi beauties, not foreigners: Abhishek - Page 4

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Blue-Ice, I understand your point but I don't think the issue is that don't cast foreigners at all. That is hypocritical and messed up to the core.

The reason I'm saying BW seems to be recruiting based on skin color is because none of the imports from outside India have any talent to justify the opportunity they got. Giselle, Katrina, Jacqueline, Nargis, etc. So if they don't have any acting ability, can't speak the language (their dialogues have to be dubbed by another person), can't dance (requirement for BW films), then why are they being cast as Indians? Why doesn't BW import dusky beauties also? Why only the caucasian ones? Agreed that at the end of the day it's the director's choice, but indirectly, it does send out a wrong message to duskier girls..

If they have talent, fit the role, then yes by all means go ahead and sign them. I had no problem with the white girls in RDB, Raajneeti, Salaam-E-Ishq, Lagaan.

The Pakistani singers have the talent to justify their opportunities. That issue is different for this sole reason I think :)

Since when has Bollywood industry become talent oriented...it has always been superficial and looks oriented...but like I said Bollywood has dusky ones like Rekha and Bipasha...Priyanka and Parineeti in the new ones...how is it sending wrong message by hiring a few white ones...

I don't believe in black and white answers.. so i agree with a mix of many points made in this post. The self-hate argument is good, but then we also live in the times of globalization. Its all a matter of demand and supply, there are people in Indian call centers who are taught American accents so that north American callers don't realize that they are calling overseas for simple customer service. Outsourcing jobs has been condemned by many in north America and Europe and in a way India is facing it now.

Originally posted by: ladygaga.

I don't believe in black and white answers.. so i agree with a mix of many points made in this post. The self-hate argument is good, but then we also live in the times of globalization. Its all a matter of demand and supply, there are people in Indian call centers who are taught American accents so that north American callers don't realize that they are calling overseas for simple customer service. Outsourcing jobs has been condemned by many in north America and Europe and in a way India is facing it now.

so true...and I don't think anyone has any objections to those Indians at the call centers FOOLING the Americans by talking in the american accent...Hey..i am BOB..I am calling from Atlanta...because Oh its for the betterment of the Indian business...but the same people are crying that white girls shouldn't be playing the role of Indian girls...

Originally posted by: sweet coco

I have mixed feelings on this issue b/c if an actress is talented then it shouldn't matter what her skin color is as long as she can deliver the character.

However, if the actress is only chosen b/c she's "fair" and that equates to beauty then I object. It def sends the wrong message.

Originally posted by: youknowme

There is a market for child po*nography and snuff films too. There is a market for drugs. there is also money in it----lots of money---but the cost, the ultimate cost to an entire society, of pandering to such a destructive market is too high.

The reason you are able to do well and to get a job in America is because people like me and my family stood up and bitched our brown asses off when America wanted to ignore US because it was argued that all people here wanted to see was Grace Kelly or Marilyn Monroe.

We created laws and stood up to a system that not only pandered to racism but promulgated it by showing the masses no alternative way of viewing the world.

If not for people who stood up and complained you would be ridiculed in schools, constantly questioned about your ability to speak English (oh yeah, I remember that) and as a woman you'd be asked if you were married so you could be canned or paid less because it is assumed you would get pregnant and quit---or maybe that you don't need your pay since you have a man and can therefore be safely paid crap compared to the men. We're STILL fighting that one by the way.

This is NOT about fairness to foreign women. The Indian film industry, while old is no where NEAR as rich as the LA one is----and if the rest of the world which IS white can find it in their hearts and wallets to support its own people if they are worth it why would these girls go to India to make less money if they really were worth it?

If countries like America which were BUILT BY PEOPLE FROM ALL CORNERS OF THE WORLD, from India, to Mexico, to Thailand, to Denmark, to England, can progress and move past an antiquated Eurocentric view of the world that puts whiteness at the center as the ne plus ultra of beauty, power, and status then it's a damned poor show when a country which produces some of the most beautiful women in the world cannot and worse, will not even TRY to expose the rest of the world to the beauty and worth of its own daughters.

Like Aretha Franklin (a BLACK AMERICAN who, if people hadn't stood up and complained would have most likely never been heard) said in the old song---

"RESPECT YOURSELF cause if you don't respect yourSELF aint nobody gonna..."

SUPER LIKE 👍🏼 I couldn't have put it better myself.

Originally posted by: blue-ice

As an indian American living in the USA...and being given equal opportunity...i don't have the heart or it would be morally correct for me to say that ...foreigners should not get a chance to work in India...when millions of indians get a chance to work in foreign countries and make their lives better...

Bollywood industry is just another like anyother industry and may be its providing employment to foreign nationals...so what ...are the other industries in India not employing foreigners...than why should the Bollywood industry be an exception...

How come I as an immigrant to another country raise an objection to a foreigner working in any industry in India...when I myself am doing the same in America...If tomorrow...an industry in USA was to shun me from giving employment because of my brown skin...I would cry racism...then how can I be a racist and say that white girls be not employed by the BW industry...let them be employed...if the indian audience doesn't want to see them...they will go back...but who are we to stop anyone in today's global world and open market...

I don't think anyone is against casting foreigners. I think the industry needs to grow and diversify to cater to a global audience. However, there has to be authenticity and merit to the casting. Casting less authentic looking and less talented foreigners in place of local talent is unfair and prejudicial. The biggest problem is pandering to the notion that white and fair is more desirable.

I would not mind casting foreign talent if it was not fixated on "fair" and "white" people and was more open to ethnicities that can better pass of as Indians. Mixed race blacks, many Mediterranean folk, Latinos, Middle Eastern look a lot more Indian - but none of these talents are ever considered.

I'm not against white skinned or foreign people in the industry. That would be racist and hypocritical off me.

I'm against preference shown to white skinned people by our own people, against our own people. I'm speaking against a racial bias that is growing or at least a skin tone bias.

Originally posted by: blue-ice

Since when has Bollywood industry become talent oriented...it has always been superficial and looks oriented...but like I said Bollywood has dusky ones like Rekha and Bipasha...Priyanka and Parineeti in the new ones...how is it sending wrong message by hiring a few white ones...

Lets face it...BW sells it because we buy it...

I wonder why we outsource women only? Why not outsource even men?

^And that is another million dollar question 😆