Recognise desi beauties, not foreigners: Abhishek - Page 3

Originally posted by: blue-ice

As an indian American living in the USA...and being given equal opportunity...i don't have the heart or it would be morally correct for me to say that ...foreigners should not get a chance to work in India...when millions of indians get a chance to work in foreign countries and make their lives better...

Bollywood industry is just another like anyother industry and may be its providing employment to foreign nationals...so what ...are the other industries in India not employing foreigners...than why should the Bollywood industry be an exception...

How come I as an immigrant to another country raise an objection to a foreigner working in any industry in India...when I myself am doing the same in America...If tomorrow...an industry in USA was to shun me from giving employment because of my brown skin...I would cry racism...then how can I be a racist and say that white girls be not employed by the BW industry...let them be employed...if the indian audience doesn't want to see them...they will go back...but who are we to stop anyone in today's global world and open market...

Originally posted by: Equine

great post. jus my thoughts. nicely put.👏👏

Chalo...someone agreed with my POV...otherwise I was starting to feel like the ODD (WO)MAN OUT.😆

Originally posted by: Equine

wats wrong with casting foreign born? as long as thy look th part.

Nothing wrong in casting them. But to present them as an Indian belle is questionable. I have to agree with him that it's demoralizing. Aren't we done with our fair vs dark skin complex yet?

Originally posted by: -Desi-IFer-

Nothing wrong in casting them. But to present them as an Indian belle is questionable. I have to agree with him that it's demoralizing. Aren't we done with our fair vs dark skin complex yet?

So what if they are showing what sells...gora hona koi galat baat toh nahi hai...If the white women can pass of as an Indian then why not? One of the main requirements of Bollywood is beauty...Are we confusing Bollywood Industry with a charitable organization...well its not...Bollywood is just like anyother industry that works for profit...why should they not be allowed to use what works for them...Will you ever tell TATA whom they should employ...nahi na...then why Bollywood...Do you realise how many thousands of people have employment because of Bollywood...kitne ghar chalte hain Bollywood se...why do people want BW to not look for profit...there was a time when the BW industry was almost doomed...and do u know who were going to be the most affected people if it had happened...it would have been the extras, the technicians, the spot boys etc etc...We don't want the private industries of any country to fail for any reason...because they are the ones that provide maximum employment to the people...thats why Government or people should not poke their noses in how a private indutry runs its affairs...

Originally posted by: blue-ice

As an indian American living in the USA...and being given equal opportunity...i don't have the heart or it would be morally correct for me to say that ...foreigners should not get a chance to work in India...when millions of indians get a chance to work in foreign countries and make their lives better...

Bollywood industry is just another like anyother industry and may be its providing employment to foreign nationals...so what ...are the other industries in India not employing foreigners...than why should the Bollywood industry be an exception...

How come I as an immigrant to another country raise an objection to a foreigner working in any industry in India...when I myself am doing the same in America...If tomorrow...an industry in USA was to shun me from giving employment because of my brown skin...I would cry racism...then how can I be a racist and say that white girls be not employed by the BW industry...let them be employed...if the indian audience doesn't want to see them...they will go back...but who are we to stop anyone in today's global world and open market...

That is exactly the point he is making ... These girls are being casted not for their talent but for only one reason - The COLOR of their SKIN . Forget about mind blowing talent, most of them are beyond awful ... In a country obsessed with fair skin, in a country where every third advertisement is about fair skin, in a country where from childhood a dusky girl is made to feel inferior about her skin, this is an awful trend.

... G in LAK was bad ... the only reason that she wasn't panned was because she doesn't open her mouth at all during the film ... check out her other film ...Jackquiline is talent-less ...Our most famous import Katrina was beyond awful initially (and according to most, she still is) ... She seems to have marginally improved after like a decade ...

To follow with your example - How would you fell if in America or in India, you would not be given a job because you are not white ? ... How would you feel if they said, we will hire white girls because it is an open market and no matter if people don't like their work, we will fire them ... but we won't hire you

This is not about immigration or global markets or open economies or india or america ...
A job that is given only on the criteria of the color of your skin IS Racism , whatever the country, whatever the profession...

Originally posted by: bips

That is exactly the point he is making ... These girls are being casted not for their talent but for only one reason - The COLOR of their SKIN . Forget about mind blowing talent, most of them are beyond awful ... In a country obsessed with fair skin, in a country where every third advertisement is about fair skin, in a country where from childhood a dusky girl is made to feel inferior about her skin, this is an awful trend.

... G in LAK was bad ... the only reason that she wasn't panned was because she doesn't open her mouth at all during the film ... check out her other film ...Jackquiline is talent-less ...Our most famous import Katrina was beyond awful initially (and according to most, she still is) ... She seems to have marginally improved after like a decade ...

To follow with your example - How would you fell if in America or in India, you would not be given a job because you are not white ? ... How would you feel if they said, we will hire white girls because it is an open market and no matter if people don't like their work, we will fire them ... but we won't hire you

This is not about immigration or global markets or open economies or india or america ...
A job that is given only on the criteria of the color of your skin IS Racism , whatever the country, whatever the profession...

@ bold..That would be racisim...I will beat the shit out of them...so if u are not offering a job to a caucasian girl ...because she is white...although she can pass off as an Indian...won't that amount to the same thing...are u trying to say that Bollywood industry should shut it doors to all foreigners? @ Blue...Have you ever heard the term BONAFIDE OCCUPATIONAL QUALIFICATION? It means that in certain cases u can discriminate but it won't be counted as discrimination...lets say Victoria's secret wants to hire models for their lingerie...now they are allowed to hire only female model without the men crying discrimination because hiring a female model is BFOQ...

There is a market for child po*nography and snuff films too. There is a market for drugs. there is also money in it----lots of money---but the cost, the ultimate cost to an entire society, of pandering to such a destructive market is too high.

Okay. He's not saying anything about NOT casting foreigners at all. What he's saying is that say, you have an Indian character in your film and you cast a white girl because she's "prettier" than our desi girls just because her skin color is FAIRER than Indians (let's face it, this has to be the only reason they're being cast because most of the foregn imports are talentless hacks so talent can't be the reason). THAT is wrong and it only feeds into the insecurities that many Indian girls have because of media and society--that they are NOT pretty because their skin color is DARKER than some other girl. That the fair-skinned girl is prettier just because her skin color is lighter. Whether directors mean to or not, indirectly or directly acts like this only add to insecurities and that is wrong.

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Okay. He's not saying anything about NOT casting foreigners at all. What he's saying is that say, you have an Indian character in your film and you cast a white girl because she's "prettier" than our desi girls just because her skin color is FAIRER than Indians (let's face it, this has to be the only reason they're being cast because most of the foregn imports are talentless hacks so talent can't be the reason). THAT is wrong and it only feeds into the insecurities that many Indian girls have because of media and society--that they are NOT pretty because their skin color is DARKER than some other girl. That the fair-skinned girl is prettier just because her skin color is lighter. Whether directors mean to or not, indirectly or directly acts like this only add to insecurities.

What about Nutan, Rekha, Bipasha basu, Sridevi, Hema Malini, Konkona Sen sharma and many other dark actresses who have ruled or are ruling BW...if skin color made someone pretty why did these actresses succeed...so how can u say that they are recruiting actresses just because skin color makes one prettier...if the Indian audience paid attention to skin color so much...Rekha should have been down in the dumps...just because a few caucasian actresses are hired ...doesn't mean BW has started hiring on the basis of skin color only...maybe there are other factors involved..

I am not defending the BW industry here...beacuse I have ZERO respect for Indian police, politicians and Bollywood...I am just pointing out to the habit of us indians being intolerant and crying FOWL at everything that deviates even a little bit from the usual practice...a few years back there was a hungama over hiring singers from pakistan...people didn't like it...why give chance to Pakistani singers...when we have our own talented bunch...there was no skin color involved there...Pakistanis are like us as far as the skin color goes...the point being that we Indians are selfish enough to roam all over the world and reap benefits ...but when it comes to sharing a little bit from our country we will cry and howl...hey forget about other countries...we are intolerant to Indians if they belong to a different state...Mumbai belongs to marathis...remember..anyone.