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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: SingularlyGood




What adulation? Acting in a 2 sec "Kanta bai" type dishwashing powder commercial and dragging her emasculated, hapless hubby like a personal serf to all the glamor parties to show her presence in Mumbai? And occasionally floating a "5 crore" movie deal rumor which never materializes? She thought that she could just saunter back in, frsh from surgery and botox, and get movie deals falling like coins in her lap. She has just been reduced to a professional party-attender like Sonali and Raveena.

There is nothing wrong in being a professional party attender if thats what you want to call it. Everyone these days attends parties for a price and does endorsements for a price. Many of the current set including A listers dont even get to command prime seating and camera focus on themselves. Says a lot for her stardom that she can get all this in a jiffy as soon as she chooses to.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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dont think madhuri has done surgery; she is not one who disappeared for ten years
and came back looking like no time had passed.
neither has she disappeared for a few weeks and come back inexplicably looking
a couple of years younger. hint ; ALL the heroines over 30 in bw
i think rekha can be said to have done and keeps doing surgery. the way she sometimes
looks 60 and then in another event she will look 35.
madhuri was such a desi girl, i always wondered what she would do in america;
in the midst of all the goras and their lifestyle. its evident she couldnt really settle down
there, her heart was back in india and if she is being offered big money here -no reason
not to return; hubby seems happy so far
Edited by pakeezah - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43
LOL, what an entertaining article.
It's nice to have dreams but as far as acting is concerned, I seriously doubt whether Kat will reach anywhere near Madhuri. It's unfortunate that Madhuri was reigning at a time when the movies generally were of more entertainment value. Nowadays, the Hindi film industry is coming up with excellent ideas, it would have been great if Madhuri was acting now.
I have seen a couple of her films and I found her excellent in Mrityudand. She often carried movies on her shoulder and delivered hits one after the other. Even Prahaar was a very good movie.
Madhuri even today comamnds respect not only from her peers but from the audience as well.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: pakeezah

dont think madhuri has done surgery; she is not one who disappeared for ten years

and came back looking like no time had passed.
neither has she disappeared for a few weeks and come back inexplicably looking
a couple of years younger. hint ; ALL the heroines over 30 in bw
i think rekha can be said to have done and keeps doing surgery. the way she sometimes
looks 60 and then in another event she will look 35.
madhuri was such a desi girl, i always wondered what she would do in america;
in the midst of all the goras and their lifestyle. its evident she couldnt really settle down
there, her heart was back in india and if she is being offered big money here -no reason
not to return; hubby seems happy so far

I dont see why everyone thinks Madhuri is on the verge of a divorce. The Nenes look perfectly happy...atleast a lot more happy than many other BW couples who have been married for 10+ years who cant even smile for cameras. But yes the film industry seems to destroy lot of marriages...lets see if the Nenes are made to sterner stuff.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: -ksh-

Why are you comparing a Madhuri of today and Katrina? If you have to compare then compare the two in their heydays. That is Madhuri of the late 80s and early 90s and Katrina of today. If Katrina would have debuted then she wouldnt have stood a chance. Not just against Madhuri but against the other actresses too who were around at the same time-Sridevi, Karishma, Kajol and even Aishwarya. She cant act, her dancing is forced and she has zero oomph factor.

As for Yash Chopra...yes his films arent great these days but despite that he is a respected director because of his iconic films. No other director from his times is as respected today as he is.



I was not the one who started the comparison - you did, i.e. between today's Katrina and Madhuri. You said "And Katrina wouldnt survive if Madhuri was still in the industry" and I elaborated on that stance, showing how flawed it is. When you state "if Madhuri was still in the industry" - you are essentially comparing the present Madhuri with the present Kat.

She can't act? Yes, but that makes zero difference to her star power.
She can't dance? Yes, but that makes zero difference to her star power.
She has zero oomph factor? Really? 😆 Ask the average man from the street, they'd pay their whole annual income to just meet her face to face. She has topped "Who's the sexiest Indian lady" several times, voted by men.
The real question is, is she a star? And the answer is a obviously resounding "YES!".

I am the last person to care for Kat, but let's give the credit where it is due. I don't care about Madhuri either, so you can see I am pretty much neutral about them both. Yes Kat can't come anywhere close to a Madhuri in terms of acting, emoting, dancing et al - but when it comes to star power, she is the only star in the last 15 years who has that crowd-pulling ability in her. That does not mean she can accomplish (going by her previous record) what Madhuri has accomplished. But only in the "crowed pulling" factor, she is the closest to what Madhuri had accomplished in the past.

As for Mr. Chopra, I can't talk about his previous films much, as I haven't seen all, and the ones I did see (Lamhe, Silsila and a few others), I can't remember them much. However, he was a very reputed director, so he must have been good. But there is a universally acknowledged opinion that the quality of his films (and all the ones that YRF churned out) dropped since DTPH. My point was, Yash C. knows people hardly cares for him or his films anymore, critics aren't going to drool over his heart-shaped balloons or Harlequin dialogues either, he is probably skeptical about SRK's crowd-pulling ability too...so what can he do to make sure the film receives a good opening? Right. Cast Kitty Kat into it. He is a business man first and then a director - at least that is what he has become now.
Edited by Beyond_the_Veil - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#46
Maybe her next lifetime. In this life , she can only look upto Madz' delicate stilettos. Argue as much as anyone wants - Madhuri was , is and will always be THE MADHURI DIXIT. 😍
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I agree beyond_the_veil
and i find it ridiculous how people are stating she has zero oomph factor! in their opinion she doesnt, fair enough! but dont state it as a fact! its an opinion, i think she has that factor and yes ask an average person or even kids and they'll tell you what they can do to even see a glimpse of katrina for a second!
she might lack the talent but she has the star power, and in terms star power she is today's madhuri!
Edited by Koizakapoor - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Beyond_the_Veil



I was not the one who started the comparison - you did, i.e. between today's Katrina and Madhuri. You said "And Katrina wouldnt survive if Madhuri was still in the industry" and I elaborated on that stance, showing how flawed it is. When you state "if Madhuri was still in the industry" - you are essentially comparing the present Madhuri with the present Kat.

She can't act? Yes, but that makes zero difference to her star power.
She can't dance? Yes, but that makes zero difference to her star power.
She has zero oomph factor? Really? 😆 Ask the average man from the street, they'd pay their whole annual income to just meet her face to face. She has topped "Who's the sexiest Indian lady" several times, voted by men.
The real question is, is she a star? And the answer is a obviously resounding "YES!".

I am the last person to care for Kat, but let's give the credit where it is due. I don't care about Madhuri either, so you can see I am pretty much neutral about them both. Yes Kat can't come anywhere close to a Madhuri in terms of acting, emoting, dancing et al - but when it comes to star power, she is the only star in the last 15 years who has that crowd-pulling ability in her. That does not mean she can accomplish (going by her previous record) what Madhuri has accomplished. But only in the "crowed pulling" factor, she is the closest to what Madhuri had accomplished in the past.

As for Mr. Chopra, I can't talk about his previous films much, as I haven't seen all, and the ones I did see (Lamhe, Silsila and a few others), I can't remember them much. However, he was a very reputed director, so he must have been good. But there is a universally acknowledged opinion that the quality of his films (and all the ones that YRF churned out) dropped since DTPH. My point was, Yash C. knows people hardly cares for him or his films anymore, critics aren't going to drool over his heart-shaped balloons or Harlequin dialogues either, he is probably skeptical about SRK's crowd-pulling ability too...so what can he do to make sure the film receives a good opening? Right. Cast Kitty Kat into it. He is a business man first and then a director - at least that is what he has become now.

About the blue bit you misunderstand me. A Katrina wouldnt have stood a chance if Madhuri would have been the same age group as she is now.
About the bold bit good to see you atleast put it that way.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Madhuri's career was already dwindling in late 90s/early 2000s. So, really her career was over 12-13 years ago. To add insult to injury, she was in her early 30s then. Aishwarya was still doing well in her 30s. Kareena too will at least for the next few years. So, its not like it was her age.

People were already sick of Madhuri then...Wajood, Aarzoo, Pukaar, Lajja, that Ajay-Priety flick with her...everything flopped miserably except for Devdas. But Devdas was promoted as SRK-Bhansali-Aish flick more anyway. Madhuri did not even go to Cannes. People had had enough of her by then. So, yes even if Madhuri was still around, Katrina would still pull in more audience. People like Katrina, she has mass appeal. Madhuri's boat sailed a long ass time ago.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The thing is people tend to revere the past and decry the present actresses. Perhaps, it has to do with nostalgia or perhaps it has to do with delusional expectations. But Madhuri wasn't as much of a hot property towards the end of her career as people would like to believe. Her career was already on the down low when she married...except for Dil toh pagal hain (1997), she really hadn't had a hit since so she tied the knot as most actresses did back then.

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