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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Nuktaacheen

boils down to the same thing, doesn't it... it's okay to take risks and delay shootings and put projects on backburner for an ACTOR, but not for actresses... yes, it was unprofessional of ash to hide something like this, but that does not take away the fact that they could have resolved this... it's the call the producers made... blowing things out of proportion was certainly not the best way to deal with the situation...!

though, i have to tell you... all this talk about the workers and their rights, etc. NOW is extremely amusing... everyone remembers that now, when it concerns the least favourite family of bollywood... doesn't surprise me at all, though...!
besides imprisonment, actors have also DELAYED the projects many times, after committing to it... i doubt that is what the filmmakers 'expect' their actors to do, but they still put up with it, don't they...?
p.s. i am not an ash fan, btw... nor am i implying that she is not at fault... however, the double standards are way too obvious for me to not point them out...!

Yes it boils to the same thing that she didn't tell and as a result impacted a lot of people. In my opinion when the ACTOR's movie that referenced was 80% complete before he had to go behind the bars was heavily invested by then so it makes sense to wait and then complete the other 20% likewise if it was an ACTRESS's main role that was 80% complete then odds are everyone would wait if they didn't then it wouldn't be practical to shelve something so heavily invested in plus imagine all the bashing. 😭 😭
For Heroine they filmed what 7-10 days it's not like it's reached the point of no return so the makers would have to wait, it's probably just made it 10-25% or something so in this case the makers decided to cut their losses. Also if your leading lady wasn't upfront with you how keen would you be to work with that person later. I'm not sure if there were projects shelved when ACTORS only did 10-25% of the shooting (I'm just throwing those numbers in as it' hasn't reached half yet) and if it has been done then yeah it's double standards.
True that double standards do exist (how many male oriented films are there compared female oriented films) but if this is a role that only Aish could pull off then even the director would have to wait for her to come back. After this I wouldn't wait unless it was absolutely necessary.
I'm not an avid Aish fan nor am a hater I like her in some films but that's about it. Whether it was the Bachchans, Kappoors or Khans it wouldn't have made a difference to me. People would still be talking as what's wrong is wrong.
The workers are an integral part of the film without them how is the movie suppposed to be made? If the film has been shelved for whatever reason it directly impacts them. Even if you don't talk about them you would know this fact as it's a chain reaction everyone involved is gonna feel it. Whether the film was shelved because of a Bachchan or Kapoor doesn't make any difference to them?
Is Madhur blowing it a bit out of proportion - yes. Would he want to wait for Aish to come back and film when she hid such a big thing and didn't have the guts to tell him personally - his call. If on good terms he possibly could have waited with what's transpired but I personally wouldn't wait but would rather move on by either shelving it completely or find another actress.
This movie hasn't filmed to a point of no return so scrapping it now minimizes the loss even better to get another actress (hopefully Karisma!) so at least the film continues and the technicians can still work on this project. Truly hope this is the direction that this film takes so at least it can still be made.
Edited by babloo_mka - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: babloo_mka

Yes it boils to the same thing that she didn't tell and as a result impacted a lot of people. In my opinion when the ACTOR's movie that referenced was 80% complete before he had to go behind the bars was heavily invested by then so it makes sense to wait and then complete the other 20% likewise if it was an ACTRESS's main role that was 80% complete then odds are everyone would wait if they didn't then it wouldn't be practical to shelve something so heavily invested in plus imagine all the bashing. 😭 😭
For Heroine they filmed what 7-10 days it's not like it's reached the point of no return so the makers would have to wait, it's probably just made it 10-25% or something so in this case the makers decided to cut their losses. Also if your leading lady wasn't upfront with you how keen would you be to work with that person later. I'm not sure if there were projects shelved when ACTORS only did 10-25% of the shooting (I'm just throwing those numbers in as it' hasn't reached half yet) and if it has been done then yeah it's double standards.
True that double standards do exist (how many male oriented films are there compared female oriented films) but if this is a role that only Aish could pull off then even the director would have to wait for her to come back. After this I wouldn't wait unless it was absolutely necessary.
I'm not an avid Aish fan nor am a hater I like her in some films but that's about it. Whether it was the Bachchans, Kappoors or Khans it wouldn't have made a difference to me. People would still be talking as what's wrong is wrong.
The workers are an integral part of the film without them how is the movie suppposed to be made? If the film has been shelved for whatever reason it directly impacts them. Even if you don't talk about them you would know this fact as it's a chain reaction everyone involved is gonna feel it. Whether the film was shelved because of a Bachchan or Kapoor doesn't make any difference to them?
Is Madhur blowing it a bit out of proportion - yes. Would he want to wait for Aish to come back and film when she hid such a big thing and didn't have the guts to tell him personally - his call. If on good terms he possibly could have waited with what's transpired but I personally wouldn't wait but would rather move on by either shelving it completely or find another actress.
This movie hasn't filmed to a point of no return so scrapping it now minimizes the loss even better to get another actress (hopefully Karisma!) so at least the film continues and the technicians can still work on this project. Truly hope this is the direction that this film takes so at least it can still be made.

definitely agree with that... but the movie hasn't really even started filming yet... so it's not like they lost a lot of days of ash filming the movie, that need to be re-shot... they've all certainly made a bigger deal out of it...
previously, it was that nobody but kareena could pull off the role... and now, it's ash... i'm pertty sure they can make changes to the script (whatever they might be) to suit the role... as it is, madhur had supposedly made changes time and again to the script... that's one reason kareena had rejected the movie, because madhur wouldn't give her a bound script...!
movies have been scrapped in the past, even after shooting has begun for many reasons... so i really don't buy this that since they lost 7 days (they were not even focused on ash too much, if i go by the reports), they HAVE to shelve the movie... that's really not a good enough reason... they could have and still can, replace her and start shooting with someone who won't ask them to change the script too much, and actually stay true to the original vision (whatever that might be) of madhur's...!
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Nuktaacheen

exactly... but when the actor is at fault, nobody really cares about the people involved with the movie... funny, how everyone remembers that NOW... 🤔
i do think ash is at fault here too for hiding the fact, but people making it out to be a national issue is ridiculous... where are people's sense of morality, when the actors delay shootings or put certain projects on the backburner to suit their own needs... where's the talk of the so-called professional courtesy then...??
though, i don't think they are fearing lawsuit of firing a pregnant lady, because they can defend their point in court (if they are not at fault; if the case ever takes off, i.e...)... however, if they also made changes later on, then they are also liable... so there is no way they would be able to win the case...!



I completely agree with what you have said but would like to clarify that my statement regarding other workers suffering applies to all the actors/actress. It wasn't my intention to point a finger at Ashwariya only.
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Posted: 14 years ago
agree.. even sajnay dutt was doing amovie when he was jailed.. and later finished it after coming out..
it was a movie with raveena tandon
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Posted: 14 years ago

madhur! why to cry on this ash's(is she really called as ash?) preggy issue?

you divide your script into two parts.

1.heroine before marriage

2.heroine after marriage and child birth

shoot the second part now . once she delivered a baby, then you can continue shoot first part as your script like smoking, jumping and bold scenes as you like.





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Posted: 14 years ago
I still cant beleive that she didnt tell her director about her pregnancy before announcing it to the world. What did she think would happen? Madhur would arrive at Jalsa with ballons, Flowers and mithai? Any sane career woman would first tell her family and then inform people whom she works with before telling the world. Even if she wanted to wait until the first trimester was done she should have told the director/production house BEFORE annoncing it on twitter.I used to think she was very professional but obviously I was wrong.Or maybe it is the family she married into that is causing her to act like this🤪
Anyways she made a mistake and has paid a price so can everyone else move on too ? What is stopping Madhur from getting one of the top heroines to do this project ? All this rona dhona over a woman who is not even considered amongst the top 3 in the industry.
And what is all this nonsense about Aishwarya putting so many people out ot work ? 😆 Blame the production house for shelving the movie . They should have just picked another girl and moved on instead of dragging this issue for so many days. Aishwarya will not and cannot go to court. If she had anything credible to say she would have said so by now.
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: qwww

And what is all this nonsense about Aishwarya putting so many people out ot work ? 😆 Blame the production house for shelving the movie . They should have just picked another girl and moved on instead of dragging this issue for so many days. Aishwarya will not and cannot go to court. If she had anything credible to say she would have said so by now.



Personally I think Madhur is a very shrewd guy who's just milking this for the publicity, nothing else, otherwise he wouldn't be engaging in the mudslinging now would he?😉...it makes no sense that he would just quickly pack up and send everyone home after he heard of Aish's pregnancy despite spending years working on his "beloved" and most ambitious project. To me, he and his team definitely have some sort of replacement for Aish ready but they're just waiting until they can milk this story for what it is worth



Edited by koolchick - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago

If after all this drama, Bhandarkar and Aishwarya decide to go ahead with Heroine (post delivery) then we are the bigger fools. So much publicity for the film. Ainvayi.

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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: TheDilettante

If after all this drama, Bhandarkar and Aishwarya decide to go ahead with Heroine (post delivery) then we are the bigger fools. So much publicity for the film. Ainvayi.




*Smack myself in the face*...if this was publicity for Heroine, then I will never read another Aishwarya topic in this forum for a very long time...I'm sure I've wasted hours just reading and talking about this scandal on IF as it is😕😆


Edited by koolchick - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
Good point...Ash was already expecting when the film was being announced in Cannes. So who knows they might have it all planned out? Afterall even during Jodha Akbar Ash took a long break for her wedding. That was a big budget movie with a big star and yet there were no issues because obviously everyone was in the loop and Ash's marriage provided lot of free publicity to the film too.

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