Collection or a good film?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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I went through the "Ready" and couple of other topics and people are just bringing article with stats in how much a film earned. A film earning can be enormous but it can still be a bad film.


Do you want a film that is bad and make loads of money or a good film? this is directed towards those people who bring in earning issue.



Collections or a good film?
your pick!

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Posted: 14 years ago
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For some reason people think Good cinema = Art cinema ... I don't get this "leave your brains behind" cinema at all ...

We ALL want a good film ... Why would we care about collections ... its not as if we are getting any money ... its just the idea of what is good differs from person to person
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Posted: 14 years ago
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interesting topic...

I guess a 'good film' can be anything, really.
In retrospect, I do personally find that there are plenttty of movies that don't get much box office collections at all, but are great movies, with great stories

prime examples being Raat Gayi Baat Gayi, Challo Dilli, Do Dooni Chaar

its not that these movies faired poorly in the box office, but they obviously didn't do as well as HUUUGE earners, like Dabangg.

I guess its extremely dependent upon personal taste, and what different people want from movies.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I dont care what type of movie it is, art, parallel, comedy, action etc etc. Now all I want is a good movie from Bollywood. Dont give a rat's ass about how much money it makes.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Personally for me a good film is a good film when it entertains me... It can be any genre... Just does not matter... As long as it entertains me in some way...
I watched Ready yesterday ... It entertained me ... It is a good film in my opinion...
I watched 3 idiots... Great collections... At the same time it did entertain me... It is a good film in my opinion...
I have watched Dhobi Ghat... It is no Block buster... But it did entertain me... So it is a good film for me...
I have watched Road, the movie a lesser known movie which released last year... It did entertain me... So I consider that a good film...
I watched Swades... It had no great collections... But it did entertain me...So it is a good film for me...
I watched Andaz Apna Apna... Again not a big hit in its times... But it entertains me each time I watch it... So it is a good film for me...
I have watched Housefull... It is a Blockbuster with great collection... But it did not entertain me... So it is not a good film for me...
I have watched MNIK... It is a big hit with good collection... But it failed to entertain me... So it is not a good film for me...
I can go on and on with examples... All i want to say is I dont associate good movie with collections... I call something a good movie if it touches me in some way or if it connects me in some way or if it entertains me in some way... That would be a good film for me and the BO collections or what the critics think are totally immaterial...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Viks,
We've had the same discussion under different headers in the past few weeks so I'll keep it short. [and add few lines from my previous posts on similar subject]
A film's earning: Matters for everyone associated with the film. If films flop then bigger stars don't get affected much but the ones working at the bottom level become down-and-out.

Good film: That's subjective, isn't it? Why can't all sorts of films co-exist? Why do we have to always take cinema so seriously? Movies should not only be about class and intellect.

That said, Erma Bombeck's (I love that woman) quote comes to mind again. "Don't confuse fame with success. Madonna is one; Helen Keller is the other." In Bollywood we give too much credit to superstardom/big collections but does it really matter in the long run? Rajesh Khanna was called the first real Superstar. Where's he today? Stardom is nothing if an actor can't keep it.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I dunno, when i watch a movie i should see atleast some sort of an effort. I was a big fan of masala and still am but ready totally turned me off. Even 20-30 year old bollywood movies seem better to me than ready. What i hate is when directors stop making an effort and just totally rely on star power and gimmicks to sell their movies. Yes techincally you can do that, but at this stage i have stopped enjoying gimmickry. I hate movies with old and tired looking stars, doing the same things they have done in 10000000000000000 previous movies, showing zero enthusiasm, trying to make zero progress... i think it just sucks.. celebs who are established should try to do better than what they have done before.. and not worse...
I mean just look at the production quality of this song!!
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqqrYLARCE[/YOUTUBE]
There are some Indian tele soaps which look better than this crap that i have posted above... look at 0.38 salman can't even move his leg properly.. I mean how do people digest such crap.. he looks like a puffy, old guy acting like a 20 year old.. when he was young.. then he looked much better doing all this.. but now he just looks bad!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheDilettante

Viks,
We've had the same discussion under different headers in the past few weeks so I'll keep it short. [and add few lines from my previous posts on similar subject]
A film's earning: Matters for everyone associated with the film. If films flop then bigger stars don't get affected much but the ones working at the bottom level become down-and-out.

Good film: That's subjective, isn't it? Why can't all sorts of films co-exist? Why do we have to always take cinema so seriously? Movies should not only be about class and intellect.

That said, Erma Bombeck's (I love that woman) quote comes to mind again. "Don't confuse fame with success. Madonna is one; Helen Keller is the other." In Bollywood we give too much credit to superstardom/big collections but does it really matter in the long run? Rajesh Khanna was called the first real Superstar. Where's he today? Stardom is nothing if an actor can't keep it.


good point 👍🏼
Edited by stars4u - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think there is a kind of snobbery nowadays about terming all small budget, artsy-looking cinema as "good" and the movies which are unapologetically loaded on fun and masala as "bad". Defining a "hit" movie is easy (just look at the earnings). Bt how do you define "good" cinema? It is such a subjective concept. Depends on your interests, preference and outlook. And good cinema doesn't necessarily means BO duds. . Parineeta was good and successful. But Lafange Parinda by the same director was awful. Clever camera angles, shadowy lighting and long pauses between dialogues doesn't mean a film is good. Neither does background dancers, opulent sets and glamorous locales mean a film is bad. A good film connects with the audience.. in every format.

Ultimatley, Bollywood needs successful movies to sustain and grow. Only good cinema which satisfies some hard-nosed critics and gets gloriously presented in some Foreign Film Festival while the general audiences gives it a wide berth will make Bollywood like the NPR station - a government-funded white elephant.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Theatre

I went through the "Ready" and couple of other topics and people are just bringing article with stats in how much a film earned. A film earning can be enormous but it can still be a bad film.



Do you want a film that is bad and make loads of money or a good film? this is directed towards those people who bring in earning issue.



Collections or a good film?
your pick!


U guyz could hve told me earlier, not to post Ready Box office Collection, as it will make u so upset that u will start debate on it 😆

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