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Posted: 15 years ago

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I don't think Aishwarya position is only b/c of her luck and big directors and salman...
Hum Dil de chuke sanam was the first hit by SLB before that he gave the average hit Khamoshi.. So before this SLB wasn't a big name. Aish never used Salman's name as they worked only in1 movie and everything started in that movie and ended up by some time. Hrthikk Roshan wasn't able to give hit without home production and his father was against him working with aish.. So seeing her fame and good script Hrthik couldn't say no to work with her and has given hits (apart from home production) only with Aish. And Mani Ratnam loves to work with Aish not with katrina.
And no one can name a movie done by katrina which says that WOW what a work by katrina.. you must watch the movie for katrina acting... Can you name any movie no u can't..

Sajay leela bhansali is one of the few directors who is able to extract a good performance from Ash. Despite working with the biggest names in the industry Aishwarya still gives hammy performances. She works with no one less than Mani Ratnam, SLB and other biggies but her performances do fall short, and she hadly nails it. There was a time when people had written Ash off and said that she is nothing more than a pretty face, but still SLB gave her a chance and she managed to shine.That is why I say that everyone should be given a chance. Her role in Hum dil was taylor made for her, SLB perfectly used her looks and created the whole movie around her. Katrina Kaif still hasn't done one movie where she has been presented with an opportunity to play such a well etched character. She hasn't worked with the likes of SLB, Mani ratnam, Gurvinder chadha and others. She has worked with out and out commercial directors, mostly in male oriented movies but still she has made her presence felt in those movies. And people always go on comparing Katrina with actors of Indian descent, for whom playing indian roles should come easily. But people fail to see how she as a total outsider.. and a non native India came from nowhere and is ruling bolly now. Aishwayra must have stuided english as her second language right from her schooling but when she goes to hollywood she sounds like a wannabe trying too hard to fit it.. She hasn't managed to make any impact in hollywood, which is an alien industry to her.. But on other hand Katrina has managed to rise in an alien industry.. which she had no contact in.. So her rise, I would say is commendable. Now I wanna see can one of our Indian girls go into a new film industry outside india and can rise to fame like Katrina did in bolly.. and then i will compare them to Katrina.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Sajay leela bhansali is one of the few directors who is able to extract a good performance from Ash. Despite working with the biggest names in the industry Aishwarya still gives hammy performances. She works with no one less than Mani Ratnam, SLB and other biggies but her performances do fall short, and she hadly nails it. There was a time when people had written Ash off and said that she is nothing more than a pretty face, but still SLB gave her a chance and she managed to shine.That is why I say that everyone should be given a chance. Her role in Hum dil was taylor made for her, SLB perfectly used her looks and created the whole movie around her. Katrina Kaif still hasn't done one movie where she has been presented with an opportunity to play such a well etched character. She hasn't worked with the likes of SLB, Mani ratnam, Gurvinder chadha and others. She has worked with out and out commercial directors, mostly in male oriented movies but still she has made her presence felt in those movies. And people always go on comparing Katrina with actors of Indian descent, for whom playing indian roles should come easily. But people fail to see how she as a total outsider.. and a non native India came from nowhere and is ruling bolly now. Aishwayra must have stuided english as her second language right from her schooling but when she goes to hollywood she sounds like a wannabe trying too hard to fit it.. She hasn't managed to make any impact in hollywood, which is an alien industry to her.. But on other hand Katrina has managed to rise in an alien industry.. which she had no contact in.. So her rise, I would say is commendable. Now I wanna see can one of our Indian girls go into a new film industry outside india and can rise to fame like Katrina did in bolly.. and then i will compare them to Katrina.

strange how ash still gets rave reviews! Even in her flop movies like shabd, ravaan...she got good reviews! Obvious it's a matter of opinion if you think she's good or bad....but she can act! I have yet to see Kat act!! And that 2 min speech in rajneeti is not acting!! As for critics writing her off...i don't remember that...please refresh my memory! Also hum dil happened in 1999...2 yrs after she entered the industry...so how was she written off!! Aslo...you is writting off kat?? As for kat working w/commercial directors...that's her choice...I'm pretty sure she's getting a zillion offers a day b/c she's hot right now...what she chooses is totally her choice! I don't understand when this topic became a compare Ash's career with Katrina's...b/c there's no comparison!

As for the topic...like i said before...i find it totally unfair to credit kat's hard work to salman! and that's that!
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Posted: 15 years ago

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strange how ash still gets rave reviews! Even in her flop movies like shabd, ravaan...she got good reviews! Obvious it's a matter of opinion if you think she's good or bad....but she can act! I have yet to see Kat act!! And that 2 min speech in rajneeti is not acting!! As for critics writing her off...i don't remember that...please refresh my memory! Also hum dil happened in 1999...2 yrs after she entered the industry...so how was she written off!! Aslo...you is writting off kat?? As for kat working w/commercial directors...that's her choice...I'm pretty sure she's getting a zillion offers a day b/c she's hot right now...what she chooses is totally her choice! I don't understand when this topic became a compare Ash's career with Katrina's...b/c there's no comparison!

As for the topic...like i said before...i find it totally unfair to credit kat's hard work to salman! and that's that!

Ash didn't get any rave reviews for raavan, i personally liked her acting but north indian critics didn't like her acting in raavan... a lot of reviews were referring to her screaching.. and screaming and her annoying voice in raavan. And Ash isn't a higly rated actress in bollywood, most often she is rated highly in SLB movies, otherwise people still call her a cold and a wooden actress... Yes after her debut in aur pyaar ho gaya and her movies like jeans she was heavily criticized for her icy expression and her wooden acting... She is usually praised for her beauty and elegence.. but critics do always criticize her for her inability to give more natural performances... About Katrina as I said it again.. if you wanna compare her.. then look at her background.. and circumstances.. and the fact that she is in an industry which is not native to her...Of course it is much easier for Ash to do Indian roles than Katrina coz she is born and bred in India.. If you wanna compare ash then compare her to actresses of indian descent.. of her time.. kajol, rani, priyanka, kareena, tabu, konkona, vidya balan.. these people have more critically acclaimed performances than ash.. which haved worked at boxoffice too.
So to compare Katrina's performances.. I would compare her performance in New york, Ajab, Namaste london to what ash did in hollywood.. which is pink panther.. and bride and prejudice.. Katrina was hands down much much better in her bolly roles that Ash' s half attempts at acting in pink panther.. and all.. I would say in namaste london Katrina was as close to any of Ash' s performances in Bollywood even.
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Posted: 15 years ago
If you watched Raincoat, Shabd, comparison doesn't even come in with kat. Or maybe it's just my opinion
I think both kat and aish are very different from each other. They really good at what they do. I love seeing Kat in commerical movies and I love seeing Aish in raincoat, hum dil de, devdas, shabd and other traditional roles
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Posted: 15 years ago
Yes Ash and Katrina are different actresses. And Katrina's circumstances are different from any other actress in bollywood, her background is different. And I know its tempting to mock Kat.. and even I have done it sometimes.. but to somehow rave how Indian actresses play indian character better than Kat and somehow say its an achievement.. for our desi chicks to speak better hindi than Katria.. is weird and unfair.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Why compare hollywood movies to Bollywood movies? What is stopping Kat from doing Hollywood movies?She should be judged against Angelina Jolie then😛

Katrina is working in Bollywood so why should she be held to a different standard just because she wasnt born in India? She choose to make her career here so She will/should be judged alongside her peers in Bollywood.Its not just dialogue delivery that make an actress and emotions are the same everywhere one does not have to be born in one place to emote.
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Posted: 15 years ago
There is a lot of difference between the body language, life style, the way of life of people who are Asians, to those who are western. There are even studies on.. how different cultures around the world have their whole different lignos, characterstics, different other subleties.. If you bring Angeline jolie and make her pretend to be an Indian.. and act in a typical bolly movie then its gonna be hard for her. About judging her.. well it was my perspective that people easily mock Kat.. and elevate our mediocre actresses and hail them flawless just coz they can speak better hindi. Now if we have likes of Vidya balan, Konkona, tabu.. then I would understand.. but to hail our mainstream actresses.. who anyways.. go OTT trying to play the typical nri roles and typical bubblegum romances.. and hail them as some sort of genius in front of Kat then its weird.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Yes Ash and Katrina are different actresses. And Katrina's circumstances are different from any other actress in bollywood, her background is different. And I know its tempting to mock Kat.. and even I have done it sometimes.. but to somehow rave how Indian actresses play indian character better than Kat and somehow say its an achievement.. for our desi chicks to speak better hindi than Katria.. is weird and unfair.

first of all...i didn't start the comparison and don't think they should be compared...just responding to all the comparisons! Also yeah...Ash did get good reviews for ravaan! I can find them for you if you want! And she good reviews for raincoat, chokher bali, guru, provoked, JA....and none of these were SLB productions! So it's not a SLB thing!

Also kat is in the Indian Film Industry...so yeah we're gonna compare her to indian actresses and indian roles! Plus if she wanted to talk in english then hello...there's hollywood and british film indystry too!!! so def not unfair nor weird!!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: qwww

Why compare hollywood movies to Bollywood movies? What is stopping Kat from doing Hollywood movies?She should be judged against Angelina Jolie then😛

Katrina is working in Bollywood so why should she be held to a different standard just because she wasnt born in India? She choose to make her career here so She will/should be judged alongside her peers in Bollywood.Its not just dialogue delivery that make an actress and emotions are the same everywhere one does not have to be born in one place to emote.

agree!!! same standards...kat wasn't pushed in the industry it's her choice..so she's gonna be compared to her competition! that's how it works...it's def not unfair!!!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Terenaina

If you watched Raincoat, Shabd, comparison doesn't even come in with kat. Or maybe it's just my opinion

I think both kat and aish are very different from each other. They really good at what they do. I love seeing Kat in commerical movies and I love seeing Aish in raincoat, hum dil de, devdas, shabd and other traditional roles

agree Aishu!! There's no comparison...two completely different topics! Weird thing is that i started liking kat a lot after meeting neelam and watching new york....but i et so defensive when ash and kat are compared! I don't even hate kat...but the huge ash fan in me just gets me all worked up when ppl say aish can't act or is on the same level as kat!!

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