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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet coco

first of all...i didn't start the comparison and don't think they should be compared...just responding to all the comparisons! Also yeah...Ash did get good reviews for ravaan! I can find them for you if you want! And she good reviews for raincoat, chokher bali, guru, provoked, JA....and none of these were SLB productions! So it's not a SLB thing!

Also kat is in the Indian Film Industry...so yeah we're gonna compare her to indian actresses and indian roles! Plus if she wanted to talk in english then hello...there's hollywood and british film indystry too!!! so def not unfair nor weird!!

I don't remember reading any reviews where Ash's acting was praised to skies or anything.. there might be rewiews where she was praised.. but her performance wasn't anything path breaking..there were quite a few bollywood critics who ripped apart her acting in the movie.. and i do remember reading it..
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet coco

agree!!! same standards...kat wasn't pushed in the industry it's her choice..so she's gonna be compared to her competition! that's how it works...it's def not unfair!!!

It was my perspective, but if you wanna compare her to other desi actresses.. well go ahead. She is solely the biggest draw at boxoffice right now. ANd an actor or actress is judged with many standards in the industry.. acting.. critical reviews.. and also boxoffice. People might deny it but boxoffice is imp.. If it wasn't then she would not have survived in bollywood till now.. The power of people's love for her movies.. is what is keeping her ahead of everyone..
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Ash didn't get any rave reviews for raavan, i personally liked her acting but north indian critics didn't like her acting in raavan... a lot of reviews were referring to her screaching.. and screaming and her annoying voice in raavan. And Ash isn't a higly rated actress in bollywood, most often she is rated highly in SLB movies, otherwise people still call her a cold and a wooden actress... Yes after her debut in aur pyaar ho gaya and her movies like jeans she was heavily criticized for her icy expression and her wooden acting... She is usually praised for her beauty and elegence.. but critics do always criticize her for her inability to give more natural performances... About Katrina as I said it again.. if you wanna compare her.. then look at her background.. and circumstances.. and the fact that she is in an industry which is not native to her...Of course it is much easier for Ash to do Indian roles than Katrina coz she is born and bred in India.. If you wanna compare ash then compare her to actresses of indian descent.. of her time.. kajol, rani, priyanka, kareena, tabu, konkona, vidya balan.. these people have more critically acclaimed performances than ash.. which haved worked at boxoffice too.
So to compare Katrina's performances.. I would compare her performance in New york, Ajab, Namaste london to what ash did in hollywood.. which is pink panther.. and bride and prejudice.. Katrina was hands down much much better in her bolly roles that Ash' s half attempts at acting in pink panther.. and all.. I would say in namaste london Katrina was as close to any of Ash' s performances in Bollywood even.

oh please...that performance was close to hum dil, devdas, raincoat, chokher bali,etc.! No way!! If anything kat's role in NL is semi-close to Ash's role in kuch na kaho, but even then aish outdoes kat!
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Posted: 15 years ago
Why SHOULDN'T Katrina be compared to the other actresses she's competing with? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If she chose to be a part of this industry without knowing the language/culture, that doesn't translate into lauding every word of Hindi she speaks without an accent and praising every expression she gets right. There is absolute no reason she should be compared using different standards than those that are used for the other actresses. She's been in the industry for 7 years now and that is more than enough time for someone to get acclimatized to a new place. Why in the world are people still trying to defend her saying "Oh she's still an outsider. But look, she works so hard! And look, she said two sentences in Hindi without an accent! And look, she was able to play a character that was essentially her real-life personality with conviction!"

Give me a break. And I'm not even sure how Ash entered this topic but if Katrina's Namaste London performance is being compared to Ash's in Hum Dil, that's gotta be the funniest thing I've ever heard. And I'm not even an Ash fan. Katrina has not given a single performance that is worth remembering. She has improved, yes. But if she hadn't improved after 7 years, I would seriously be doubting her basic human intelligence.

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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet coco

oh please...that performance was close to hum dil, devdas, raincoat, chokher bali,etc.! No way!! If anything kat's role in NL is semi-close to Ash's role in kuch na kaho, but even then aish outdoes kat!

Thats your perspective.. and opinion.. its not a fact.. Some might think that her performance in Namaste london was better than any ash perfromance.. or maybe it wasn't. We all have opinions.. of course the people who go and watch Katrina's performances.. go for her.. so general junta is happy with her acting.. and there is a critic in every one of us who has an opinion.. If you are talking solely on basis of critical reviews.. then there have been actresses who have gotten better reviews than Ash.. and they have been more consistent than Ash. Yes if you just take critical reviews.. then Ash has gotten better reviews than Kat.. but then general junta also likes Kat.. so she has backing.. and that is why she is still going strong.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: chatpati900

Why SHOULDN'T Katrina be compared to the other actresses she's competing with? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If she chose to be a part of this industry without knowing the language/culture, that doesn't translate into lauding every word of Hindi she speaks without an accent and praising every expression she gets right. There is absolute no reason she should be compared using different standards than those that are used for the other actresses. She's been in the industry for 7 years now and that is more than enough time for someone to get acclimatized to a new place. Why in the world are people still trying to defend her saying "Oh she's still an outsider. But look, she works so hard! And look, she said two sentences in Hindi without an accent! And look, she was able to play a character that was essentially her real-life personality with conviction!"


Give me a break. And I'm not even sure how Ash entered this topic but if Katrina's Namaste London performance is being compared to Ash's in Hum Dil, that's gotta be the funniest thing I've ever heard. And I'm not even an Ash fan. Katrina has not given a single performance that is worth remembering. She has improved, yes. But if she hadn't improved after 7 years, I would seriously be doubting her basic human intelligence.

Its not a joke that people like Katrina's acting. Its reality, you can see it everywhere, people go and watch her movies. Yes she is not a critics darling, but still people support her and its their choice. I don't like it when you try to pass your opinions as facts, liking someone's acting isn't based on just your logics.. people can like different actors based on their own logics.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Thats your perspective.. and opinion.. its not a fact.. Some might think that her performance in Namaste london was better than any ash perfromance.. or maybe it wasn't. We all have opinions.. of course the people who go and watch Katrina's performances.. go for her.. so general junta is happy with her acting.. and there is a critic in every one of us who has an opinion.. If you are talking solely on basis of critical reviews.. then there have been actresses who have gotten better reviews than Ash.. and they have been more consistent than Ash. Yes if you just take critical reviews.. then Ash has gotten better reviews than Kat.. but then general junta also likes Kat.. so she has backing.. and that is why she is still going strong.

of course it's opinion...the last i checked this what we do in this forum! You compared all of ash's work/performances to the same level as kat's NL...i didn't say it's a fact...i know it's an opinion...I'm disagreeing!!!
Also...the comparison was between ash and kat so i didn't bring in other actresses...for me kajol is far superios than them all...and above everyone is katherine hepburn...hollywood or bollywood..but i since the comparison was drawn between ash and kat...i didn't talk about other reviews and actresses!
Never said junta doesn't like kat or box office isn't important!! of course both are important and like i said kat is the hottest starlet...key word star!! My disagreement is with the fact that ash can't act or kat is superior in acting...i disagree to that...b/c i have yet to see kat act and give a memorable character like nandini, paro, or neeru! That's the only objection i had and i expressed my view!
And i'm not basing evrything on critical reviews, but you brought up the whole critics writing ash off...which is not true...she got bad reviews in her early yrs...just like kat has...but doesn't mean ash was on the verge to being finished! that's a;;!!
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: ladygaga

Its not a joke that people like Katrina's acting. Its reality, you can see it everywhere, people go and watch her movies. Yes she is not a critics darling, but still people support her and its their choice. I don't like it when you try to pass your opinions as facts, liking someone's acting isn't based on just your logics.. people can like different actors based on their own logics.

once again...it's a fact, but an opinion! weird..you seem to be stating your opinion like it's a fact!! also not everyone likes kat b/c she's a "good actress"...a lot has to do with her charm, personality and looks! and no one is passing their opinion as a fact...but i guess nowadays putting forth your opinion in a logical and reasonable way passes as a fact! Cool! Also...we having a healthy discussion...full of personal opinions!
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Posted: 15 years ago
As long as its about diff in opinions.. then I am more than fine.. i get aginated when people to make it into a fact that XYZ cannot act, and yes if people wanna refute it then they can.. but my opinion stays.. kat's performances aren't that far behind from many bublegum movie's bolly mainstream actresses.. Now if people wanna go W*F and W*H about my opinions then they can.. but my opinion still stays.. and it is backed by a whole of of movie goers choosing Kat's movies.. over other actresses..
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: sweet coco

once again...it's a fact, but an opinion! weird..you seem to be stating your opinion like it's a fact!! also not everyone likes kat b/c she's a "good actress"...a lot has to do with her charm, personality and looks! and no one is passing their opinion as a fact...but i guess nowadays putting forth your opinion in a logical and reasonable way passes as a fact! Cool! Also...we having a healthy discussion...full of personal opinions!

Read carefully hun.. its not me who is passing my opinions as facts.. infact its the poster above.. who is calling it a joke if anyone appreciates Katrina's performances..
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