Kurbaan: A Case Study - Page 5

well I agree with desigal with the point that you cannot critisise a film by saying "what kind of a person likes this film" because that is insulting to the people who like it...everyone has their own personal choice and hence, there is no need for such comments because it feels like ur hinting that there is something wrong with the people who like the film, which then becomes a personal attack (although an indirect one).

Coming to Kurbaan, yes I was dissapointed too. A film which tackles such serious issues cannot afford to have so many loopholes in the script. I just couldn't digest those loopholes and hence, the film wasnt an enjoyable experience for me. Furthermore, although I did like saif and kareena's performances, it did seem like they were trying too hard and I couldn't feel the chemistry between them. Something about them in the film just didnt click for me which was another let-down again.

I agree with the fact that Kurbaan was wrongly promoted. Especially promoting the intimate scenes over and over again in promos puts off a section of the audience. plus..the audience always looks for more light-hearted entertainment than a dark and stark film unless its fantastically made such as A Wednesday or Mumbai Meri Jaan or Dev D. I mean, if people had to chose between a mediocre comedy and a mediocre thriller, a lot would go for the comedy because people are looking for escapist cinema. Moreover, the fact tht kurbaan was based on terrorism was another drawback because people seem to be so sick and tired of watching this theme....

anywayz....I always think a good film will do well....critics reviews do matter because lets face it...half the publicity of a film like A wednesday is good word of mouth rather than television promos...and so, people do go for it if a movie is rated well...but with kurbaan, i guess people were feeling the bad vibes rite from the first promo...which was why they didnt bother....oh and therz a HUGE section of the audience who are KJO haters...so tht might have been a reason too..

Most Indian "critics" have no credibility, they are in the payroll of production houses and most likely some of the stars themselves.. when i read the overwhelming "positive reviews", i knew it was just the work of an effective PR...

how can any qualified critic overlook all the loopholes and illogical plot in the movie?? and well yeah some of us can't brush aside the plotholes the size of Texas while watching movies..

and the fact that that those so called "critics" raved about the flick will just make the viewer think WTF were those critics smoking? also it isn't some brainless action movie where you can ignore logic..

Originally posted by: desigal90

So what do you want? If I have something to say in defense of my favorites, stay quiet and let ppl come in and criticize without any defense? Is that what this forum is about now?

If I have something to say, stay quiet? Now i know why so many ppl merely LURK on this forum. Infact a few have even come and told me they dont feel comfortable posting here. Now I know why.

If you defned someone, if your views are in the minority, its looked DOWN upon. Infact, its made a spectacle out of. LIek right now. Why do you think Shahid and Deepika fans are not singled out? Becuase they dont NEEd to post to defned their favorites becuase A) they dont need to, B) there are so many fans you will HARDLY see one fan trying to defend them.

In the case of saif and kareena, if i dont speak up, no one will.

Whatever, if my posts are so damn annoying, then I shall refrain as well. Have no desire to irk anyone whatsoever.

Go on, happy posting.

Escalated things, have we?

Originally posted by: -Aladin-

This forum is definitely far more interesting when it comes to personal views. 😆 Shahid and Priyanka were barely criticized, if I remember, there were ONLY four members who said anything that can be considered 'negative', and yet, there was such a hullaballo because poor innocent them were criticized. 😛 Anyways.

People need to learn how to take criticism in their stride. Also, people need to learn where to draw the line with your respective punching bags. 😛

I agree with most of your points, but Aladin had fans really made a hullaballo that 160 page wouldn't have existed. There would have been personal attacks, the thread probably would have been closed before it got to 30 pages. It has happened in the past here with other celebs. In fact I remember some members who did criticise Shahid-Priyanka even saying that its nice that this thread went on so far without people losing their cool.

Personally what bothered me in the Vidya thread wasn't that people criticised Shahid and Priyanka. I have absolutely no problem with that and I can say that it is the same case with most if not all of their fans. What bothered some people in that thread was that multiple times people said "Oh these blind, delusional fan girls will go to any length to defend their favourites/they are hypocrites" and more things along those lines. I personally was annoyed by that - and many other "fan girls" agreed with me. So in that sense I can understand why Desigal was upset here.

My frustration was not with the fact that people disagreed with me about the two stars concerned. But that instead of arguing with me based on my arguments and quotes and facts I was presenting, some (not all) people dismissed the opinion because it came from a fan.

And there were certainly more than 4 members who were taking part in the criticism. Can't reiterate this enough because despite innumerable posts people still misunderstand: I have no problem with people criticising stars I like but as long as fans defend their favourites with logical and coherent arguments why dismiss them? That is why I said that I have no problems with Desigal defending Saifeena just as she shouldn't have problems with me criticising Kurbaan.

Originally posted by: ~angelz16~

If I wud have known that a comment I made just like that wud have led to questions like ppls intelligence and something wrong with them then I seriously wudnt have written that because I didnt and dont write a sentence with such deep thoughts. It was just meant that what kind of ppl liked it in the sense that those who just went to see it as a flick and something not giving any msg or those who who saw it and after seeing it didnt think Kurbaan was kinda similar to NY or perhaps someone like on those lines. I am not stupid to insult somebody or hurt someone. WOW!! I ll think before writting from next time because things are seriously taken SO damn personally here.