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Posted: 11 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: empusa



even sanjeet kumar does not yield much favorable results..


I think this would be enough... It's kinda the same thing Salman once said...
I dunno how do these links work.. This is what I found..
http://www.prlog.org/11833250-journey-of-sanjit-kumar-as-sangram-singh-of-today.html

http://www.prlog.org/11830674-sangram-singh-beats-his-eight-years-of-arthritis-and-became-wrestler.html
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Posted: 11 years ago
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/tv/interviews/Sangram-is-doing-well-in-Bigg-Boss-Sushil-Kumar/articleshow/26043762.cms
For people who do not know Sangram and his wrestling credentials, please read this article.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy

https://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-11-13/news/44028828_1_sangram-singh-bigg-boss-tv-channels

I don't know but even being a trashy newspaper , it can't lie at that scale..

point being,

sangram is indeed a wrestler..

and the amount of fakeness you guys have claimed..just be very sure you have air tight evidence..

else its slandering..and at a very high scale..

a blog has been posted on this...writer is anonymous..

if not proven, that blog writer is punishable by law!..and with right means, its a child's play to track it..if complaint is fined against that blog!



Zephy, it is obvious you didn't go through the whole post as well as subsequent discussions on the topic! Your Link is from WWP and it was done to death in discussions.😊

I would be most delighted if Team Sangram sues me. His complaints to COLORS as well as Ministry of Youth Affairs & Sports have been from my e-mail ID and I know he has no legs to stand upon if it comes to litigation!
😛

This was the OP:

If after reading this piece, you feel there is merit to it, you may consider tweeting to Big Boss, Colors TV and your followers this message:

Time to #ExposeSangramSingh Remaining silent over fraud is being part of crime #bb7 https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3810314

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For me, Sangram or any one else on a Big Boss Show is 'Just another contestant' and like many of you, I too am only interested in observing finer traits of human behaviour and how different individuals behave when confronted with identical set of circumstances, in caged settings.
👍🏼

Before BB-7 got underway, I had no clue who is Gauhar, Tanisha (yeah, never watched her movies), Andy, Ajaz, Sofiya, Elli, Hazel...knew a bit of Rajat as Tsunami Singh, Kamya as an actor in Comedy Circus, Armaan as Naag in Jaani Dushman-Ek Anokhi Kahaani...No idea about Pratyusha etc.🤓

What is the big deal about Sangram then?🤔

Only thing that bugged me is this guy, through his website and through Salman Khan on TV, made an astounding claim that in 2006 Commonwealth Wrestling, he won a GOLD MEDAL at South Africa!

Salman Khan on TV said (Vijeta Ka Samman Episode), Sangram, aapne 2006 South Africa Commonwealth Wrestling mein Gold Medal Jeeta. Our man blushed and said,"Haanji Sir"!☺️ Leaving viewers as well as housemates open mouthed and full of admiration!🤓👏

As someone who follows sports with some interest, I knew this is plain bullshit!😡

It didn't take more then 2 minutes to confirm, 2006 Commonwealth Games were held at Melbourne, not Durban..🤢

Still gave him the benefit of doubt...and glanced at 2005 Wrestling results:

https://commonwealthwrestling.sharepoint.com/Pages/2005Championships.aspx

In the 96 Kg category where his claim to fame lies, Official results state:

96.0 kg
Kumar, Satish 2 - India👏

Short, John - South Africa
Jacobs, Nico - Namibia


So having established that no Sangram Singh, NO SANJIT KUMAR DANGI, had anything to do with representing India in Wrestling, forget about winning a Medal...🤢...proceeded further!

In a similar topic here, where THE BOSS & Shrishti_IF contended the same thing, that Sangram's claim is a hoax and I too contributed extensively, I discovered some friends here defended Sangram's claim claiming that as Sanjit Kumar Dangi, he won a Gold Medal in 96 Kg Greco Wrestling event at 2009 at Jullundhur.😔

Now, if you are a champion sportsperson, who won a Gold Medal in a particular year, I very much doubt you would turn a case of Short Term Memory Loss case! 🤔

I mean come on! We know India won Cricket World Cup in 2011! Even if in their deep sleep you wake up Dhoni or Tendulkar, or Yuvraj Singh and congratulate them for winning 2007 World Cup, they will smile and tell you, in 2007 we got knocked out in first round----it was 2011 we won Son!😆

But even granting Sangram to be a Ghazni, I landed at the Wiki Page where indeed for 2009 there was an entry of Sanjit Kumar Dangi, as a Gold Medalist for 96 Kg Greco Roman wrestling event there! 🤓

Hmmm...so what was this then?😲

Obviously, Wiki can be edited by anyone and a fake entry can remain there until someone spots it and corrects it!😆

Kya karta??🤔

Informed one of my friend who is smart with this stuff and he corrected it from Wiki! 👍🏼👏

But not before I got an authenticated confirmation from Commonwealth Wrestling Association itself!👍🏼

Dropped them a small mail:



And they were prompt and professional in answering back👏:






Myth busted, got hold of authenticated results for 2009 Commonwealth Wrestling Games and last fig leaf that Lying, Nangoo Sangram was left with, has been robbed off him too and now, a correction has been made on Wiki Page as well:



Here is the Wiki link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Wrestling_Championship#Jalandhar_2009


One mistake that I made is that I informed COLORS TV of their goof up, in the hope that they would come up with a DHAMAAKA EPISODE, where they would first play the old clip of Salman honoring Sangram with description of his 'Medals & Awards' and then exposing his lies! 😈

Should have known better!🤢

Sangram Singh has been a participant on COLORS TV produced kid Wrestling stuff DE-DHANA-DHAN and obviously 'their Man'!

Its unfortunate and an insult to all wrestlers who go through the grind and reach the pinnacles of glory representing their country and winning Medals for India, but thats the way it stands unfortunately!

COLORS not just protected this guy's phony claims, but I suspect, they must have got lots of complaints about false claims of Sangram Medals and have decided to ignore them all! 👎🏼


Funnily, his website is still crowing about a Gold Medal in Commonwealth Championships at South Africa in 2006.🤣

Look at his website (AWARDS) page:

https://sangramsingh.in/



Its simple!

This guy is a body builder, who makes a living out of reality shows and to 'Sell' him to various channels, his PR team has 'MADE' him a Marketable commodity for TV channels! 😆

He has done some extremely poor level Pro wrestling in South Africa where Bollywood pro actor Sharat Saxena plays the role of his Mentor-coach and they have these stories like-Sangram ke Bhai ko maar daala Zabala ne, Kya Sangram Zabala se badla lega aaj?🤣...

...Do YouTube search and have a good laugh at Sangram wrestling, but please do not insult Indian wrestlers like Sushil Kumar by accepting that Sangram types can win a Gold Medal in an International event!🤢

Other claims of Awards & Medals on his website, are equally laughable!

There is nothing like Rajiv Gandhi Award, President Award, Chhatrapati Shivaji Award for Best Sportsman etc. All is humbug there! 🤢

Rather than blindly accepting his crude PR team's super crude work on his Awards page, do a google and YouTube Search of all his Awards and Medal searches and ask yourself the most basic questions:

1. Is there indeed an Award / Medal by the name claimed?

2. Who all have won these very awards / claims in past years and this year?


If Sangram's PR team sells stories like he is a case of pre-mature delivery, he had health issues, he made a good body overcoming all that, has done a bit of pro wrestling in a virtually unknown South African league, his current girlfriend is Payal Rohtagi...FINE! Thats OK.👍🏼

But the Medals and Awards mentioned?? 🤓

At best a few of them are Honorary things by little known Gali-Mohalla associations!

More than Sangram, its COLORS & Big Boss India that deserves to be condemned! 🤢

Just let him be a contestant who does a bit of Reality TV, has done some poor Pro level wrestling, fine!

But Wrestling Gold Medal for India? President Award (for what?)...Rajiv Gandhi Award (for what again...does his PR team even know whats a Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna Award?)!😡

Phewww!

Never knew some one can attempt fakeness of this scale!🤓

And then some say Gauhar, Kamya and Tanisha are fake!🤔😲

Atleast they did not claim they won Gold Medals representing India in Athletics or Swimming or that they are proud winners of some Laxmibai Award for National Ekta or Asaram Paapu Award for Blind Faith and Foolish Devotion!🤢

**In the following thread started by Srishti_IF, there are some excellent inputs from Rockyport61 and BigBoss nailing many of the fake claims in Sangram's Website!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bigg-boss-saath-7/3780455/facts-difference-b-w-a-real-sportsman-and-a-phony-sangram-singh

I am reasonably confident his pic where Ex-President APJ Kalam is shown honoring him is either a Photoshop job or, pic of some token Honorary felicitation ceremony! 😆


COLORS produced the De Dhanadan Comedy wrestling in which Sangram is a 'Star'! 😆

They know everything about Sangram and have taken him in De Dhanadan as well as Big Boss, fully knowing the complete truth about him. 😛

Watch this:


[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6_iwWBwgac&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]



One can watch a few glimpses of Sangram Singh 'fights', here! 😊...watch Sharat Saxena. (Films Ghulam, Baghban, Ghayal, Tumko Naa Bhool Paayenge etc.)...😆

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeKsakQKd4M&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]



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Posted: 11 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: enigmatic_zephy


Are you saying TOI has less circulation?

Then you are gravely mistaken.

And slandering by definition means saying things that hurt someone's image in a negative manner..

therefore, unless you have airtight evidence don't claim such things...

that is my point!

your question on proving he is not fake is baseless...and out of context. slandering is about negatively hurting someone's image without evidence...

unless (by law) you are certain beyond doubt that a person has lied about certain things only then point fingers..


Asking for a proof of your claims isn't called slandering...please don't use one word everywhere. Then I would say, you didn't understand my post at all. TOI very much can be fake, but what I said was that even the people who doubt his credibility, agrees to what TOI article says...they do accept him participating WWP fights, those are entertainment/Acts not real... So TOI actually proves nothing...

And claiming something which is not true, is a worse crime than slandering... It's faking and cheating... So I just said, do you have any credible proof of him winning commonwealth medal or some other credible medals as a real wrestler??

Then you might as well be charged as a part of his cheating network, for trying to establish his fake credentials without any credible proof, just like a slanderer can be charged, if you/he can present a credible proof of him winning commonwealth medal as he claimed, that shuts most of the people.

You just conveniently avoided the issue and educated me once more on slandering... I'm absolutely clear on that...but honestly, if there is any credible proof of his medals as a wrestler, I would love to see that proof.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Thanks @Cruiser, I read your topic and almost all the posts there in, I'm seriously in doubt about his credibility.

More over, the way he was shy to accept his achievements when Salman was saying, that doesn't give a good picture... You may say, he was being humble, but being extra-humble to not speak of your biggest achievement when asked; is a sure shot area of doubt...😆 That's an age old proven theory...😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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hmm interesting

sushil kumar n yogeshwar dutt also routing in..pasting the text here

ays Sushil Kumar, "Sportspersons like us, who are too busy training and focusing on our career, never get to come in the public eye like cricketers.The glamour quotient in cricket is fixed since the game is very popular in the country. It is sad that though the government recognises us, we have to be on reality shows to connect with the masses. There is nothing wrong in participating on the show, but then sometimes you lose your concentration on the sport so even when I was offered a reality show like Nach Baliye, I declined. I watch the show for Sangram and he is is doing well. He is my friend for years now."

On the other hand, Yogeshwar says that he would never tolerate the kind of nonsense Sangram is taking on the show. He says, "He is a simple man and it's only because of him that I watch the show. Yeh tu ta... aur gaalis sehen karne wala aadmi nahi hoon main. However, I agree that such shows would connect sportspersons more with the masses. Sangram is doing well on the show, but I wonder if it will help me if I participated in it, because I can't be as patient as Sangram."
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Posted: 11 years ago
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FYI - TOI is the most bikau newspaper in India. I don't care if Sangram is a manufactured celebrity; I like him on the show.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: -Cruiser-



Zephy, it is obvious you didn't go through the whole post as well as subsequent discussions on the topic! Your Link is from WWP and it was done to death in discussions.😊

I would be most delighted if Team Sangram sues me. His complaints to COLORS as well as Ministry of Youth Affairs & Sports have been from my e-mail ID and I know he has no legs to stand upon if it comes to litigation!
😛

This was the OP:

If after reading this piece, you feel there is merit to it, you may consider tweeting to Big Boss, Colors TV and your followers this message:

Time to #ExposeSangramSingh Remaining silent over fraud is being part of crime #bb7 https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3810314

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
For me, Sangram or any one else on a Big Boss Show is 'Just another contestant' and like many of you, I too am only interested in observing finer traits of human behaviour and how different individuals behave when confronted with identical set of circumstances, in caged settings.
👍🏼

Before BB-7 got underway, I had no clue who is Gauhar, Tanisha (yeah, never watched her movies), Andy, Ajaz, Sofiya, Elli, Hazel...knew a bit of Rajat as Tsunami Singh, Kamya as an actor in Comedy Circus, Armaan as Naag in Jaani Dushman-Ek Anokhi Kahaani...No idea about Pratyusha etc.🤓

What is the big deal about Sangram then?🤔

Only thing that bugged me is this guy, through his website and through Salman Khan on TV, made an astounding claim that in 2006 Commonwealth Wrestling, he won a GOLD MEDAL at South Africa!

Salman Khan on TV said (Vijeta Ka Samman Episode), Sangram, aapne 2006 South Africa Commonwealth Wrestling mein Gold Medal Jeeta. Our man blushed and said,"Haanji Sir"!☺️ Leaving viewers as well as housemates open mouthed and full of admiration!🤓👏

As someone who follows sports with some interest, I knew this is plain bullshit!😡

It didn't take more then 2 minutes to confirm, 2006 Commonwealth Games were held at Melbourne, not Durban..🤢

Still gave him the benefit of doubt...and glanced at 2005 Wrestling results:

https://commonwealthwrestling.sharepoint.com/Pages/2005Championships.aspx

In the 96 Kg category where his claim to fame lies, Official results state:

96.0 kg
Kumar, Satish 2 - India👏

Short, John - South Africa
Jacobs, Nico - Namibia


So having established that no Sangram Singh, NO SANJIT KUMAR DANGI, had anything to do with representing India in Wrestling, forget about winning a Medal...🤢...proceeded further!

In a similar topic here, where THE BOSS & Shrishti_IF contended the same thing, that Sangram's claim is a hoax and I too contributed extensively, I discovered some friends here defended Sangram's claim claiming that as Sanjit Kumar Dangi, he won a Gold Medal in 96 Kg Greco Wrestling event at 2009 at Jullundhur.😔

Now, if you are a champion sportsperson, who won a Gold Medal in a particular year, I very much doubt you would turn a case of Short Term Memory Loss case! 🤔

I mean come on! We know India won Cricket World Cup in 2011! Even if in their deep sleep you wake up Dhoni or Tendulkar, or Yuvraj Singh and congratulate them for winning 2007 World Cup, they will smile and tell you, in 2007 we got knocked out in first round----it was 2011 we won Son!😆

But even granting Sangram to be a Ghazni, I landed at the Wiki Page where indeed for 2009 there was an entry of Sanjit Kumar Dangi, as a Gold Medalist for 96 Kg Greco Roman wrestling event there! 🤓

Hmmm...so what was this then?😲

Obviously, Wiki can be edited by anyone and a fake entry can remain there until someone spots it and corrects it!😆

Kya karta??🤔

Informed one of my friend who is smart with this stuff and he corrected it from Wiki! 👍🏼👏

But not before I got an authenticated confirmation from Commonwealth Wrestling Association itself!👍🏼

Dropped them a small mail:



And they were prompt and professional in answering back👏:






Myth busted, got hold of authenticated results for 2009 Commonwealth Wrestling Games and last fig leaf that Lying, Nangoo Sangram was left with, has been robbed off him too and now, a correction has been made on Wiki Page as well:



Here is the Wiki link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Wrestling_Championship#Jalandhar_2009


One mistake that I made is that I informed COLORS TV of their goof up, in the hope that they would come up with a DHAMAAKA EPISODE, where they would first play the old clip of Salman honoring Sangram with description of his 'Medals & Awards' and then exposing his lies! 😈

Should have known better!🤢

Sangram Singh has been a participant on COLORS TV produced kid Wrestling stuff DE-DHANA-DHAN and obviously 'their Man'!

Its unfortunate and an insult to all wrestlers who go through the grind and reach the pinnacles of glory representing their country and winning Medals for India, but thats the way it stands unfortunately!

COLORS not just protected this guy's phony claims, but I suspect, they must have got lots of complaints about false claims of Sangram Medals and have decided to ignore them all! 👎🏼


Funnily, his website is still crowing about a Gold Medal in Commonwealth Championships at South Africa in 2006.🤣

Look at his website (AWARDS) page:

https://sangramsingh.in/



Its simple!

This guy is a body builder, who makes a living out of reality shows and to 'Sell' him to various channels, his PR team has 'MADE' him a Marketable commodity for TV channels! 😆

He has done some extremely poor level Pro wrestling in South Africa where Bollywood pro actor Sharat Saxena plays the role of his Mentor-coach and they have these stories like-Sangram ke Bhai ko maar daala Zabala ne, Kya Sangram Zabala se badla lega aaj?🤣...

...Do YouTube search and have a good laugh at Sangram wrestling, but please do not insult Indian wrestlers like Sushil Kumar by accepting that Sangram types can win a Gold Medal in an International event!🤢

Other claims of Awards & Medals on his website, are equally laughable!

There is nothing like Rajiv Gandhi Award, President Award, Chhatrapati Shivaji Award for Best Sportsman etc. All is humbug there! 🤢

Rather than blindly accepting his crude PR team's super crude work on his Awards page, do a google and YouTube Search of all his Awards and Medal searches and ask yourself the most basic questions:

1. Is there indeed an Award / Medal by the name claimed?

2. Who all have won these very awards / claims in past years and this year?


If Sangram's PR team sells stories like he is a case of pre-mature delivery, he had health issues, he made a good body overcoming all that, has done a bit of pro wrestling in a virtually unknown South African league, his current girlfriend is Payal Rohtagi...FINE! Thats OK.👍🏼

But the Medals and Awards mentioned?? 🤓

At best a few of them are Honorary things by little known Gali-Mohalla associations!

More than Sangram, its COLORS & Big Boss India that deserves to be condemned! 🤢

Just let him be a contestant who does a bit of Reality TV, has done some poor Pro level wrestling, fine!

But Wrestling Gold Medal for India? President Award (for what?)...Rajiv Gandhi Award (for what again...does his PR team even know whats a Rajiv Gandhi Khel Ratna Award?)!😡

Phewww!

Never knew some one can attempt fakeness of this scale!🤓

And then some say Gauhar, Kamya and Tanisha are fake!🤔😲

Atleast they did not claim they won Gold Medals representing India in Athletics or Swimming or that they are proud winners of some Laxmibai Award for National Ekta or Asaram Paapu Award for Blind Faith and Foolish Devotion!🤢

**In the following thread started by Srishti_IF, there are some excellent inputs from Rockyport61 and BigBoss nailing many of the fake claims in Sangram's Website!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bigg-boss-saath-7/3780455/facts-difference-b-w-a-real-sportsman-and-a-phony-sangram-singh

I am reasonably confident his pic where Ex-President APJ Kalam is shown honoring him is either a Photoshop job or, pic of some token Honorary felicitation ceremony! 😆


COLORS produced the De Dhanadan Comedy wrestling in which Sangram is a 'Star'! 😆

They know everything about Sangram and have taken him in De Dhanadan as well as Big Boss, fully knowing the complete truth about him. 😛

Watch this:


[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6_iwWBwgac&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]



One can watch a few glimpses of Sangram Singh 'fights', here! 😊...watch Sharat Saxena. (Films Ghulam, Baghban, Ghayal, Tumko Naa Bhool Paayenge etc.)...😆

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeKsakQKd4M&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]




superb cruiser..

Like i said, my point is as long as evidence sticks...

thnks for the link to your post..will revert..later...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: LovesLowCulture

FYI - TOI is the most bikau newspaper in India. I don't care if Sangram is a manufactured celebrity; I like him on the show.


bikau newspaper also will not blatantly lie at this scale..

plus the point is what are you guys saying..

like what kaushik said is apt, maybe he is into entertainment wrestling..i don't know...

my only point is there are a few posts that i read in LF and DDT and then there are these anonymouse blogs... claim it as long as evidence sticks..its just a word of caution..not saying that sangram is right cent percent
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Gyani96

The other day I read a post by Cruiser who wrote a whole list of Sangram achievements and proved how none of them were ever achieved. I believed Cruiser as I myself found many contradicting evidences regarding Sangram list of achievements. The top being his gold in Commonwealth wrestling in 2006. A quick look at wikipedia and official site of common wealth wrestling shows that it was held on 2005 and 2007 but not in 2006 (dunno why).


here in this report Sushil kumar and Yogeswar Dutt winner of silver and bronze medal respectively at the Olympics are supporting Sangram singh. They are of the same profession. If Sangram Singh was indeed fake, why would both this famous wrestlers support Sangram. I am really confused now. Dunno what to believe.



I didn't cruiser's post..i read a blog with hints of IF, for i have seen that language here..

therefore, my post is more of an advice that make sure your evidence sticks.

I am not saying he is fake or not..there are myriad possibilities...sushil kumar and dutt are probably from same place..bachpan ki dosti and all .. i don't know..

the point is..when you claim something like this, then be very very very sure your have airtight alibi..

cruiser has shared a link to his post i believe..haven't read yet..but if he is so sure, and i do hold him in high regards..i am quite sure he would have made sure of what he writes..let's see

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