US's lightening entry& They didnt die, they're immortal!

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The truth of life is death- Guruji said this, and told Pratap to accept it, Pratap knows that its the truth, we all know it, but we all deny it because we are so attached to our loved ones that we dont want to let go! but yesterday I said that US told Pratap to face death and defeat it, so to Pratap death is like is second friend so its hard for him to digest it even though he knows that death comes to all one day!

Ajabdeh- once again saved pratap today! - the mala stopped Pratap and made him remember her words of caution! when GJ was around, it was the mala that saved him from the poison dart that she threw! Again highlighting that as long as she is there, nothing will happen to Pratap!

tumhare ghar mei gaddar hai- Nasir said that, and i dont think marwar did this, but he is right, anyone who doesnt help unify Rajputana is a gaddar!! so maldev, his family are traitors to the land! Anyone who spills unnecessary blood for their own cause is a gaddar- like Jalal (he was born in Rajputana)- so he is the number one gaddar- you dont spill the blood of your own people (they were born on the same land jalal was born on) to increase your land inventory!

They didnt die, they became immortal!- so do not mourn heroes, it would be an insult to their death! I have heard this line before many times, and its true, when someone's whole aim in life is to serve their nation and die for their motherland and protect it till death, it would be wrong to cry when they died doing just that! it would go against everything they lived for! but as family and friends it can be hard to lose someone and not be able to mourn them, but if we just keep this in mind that the soul never dies and as long as there is even one person there to remember that martyr, that martyr or martyrs are not dead, they are alive, so in theory, all our great freedom fighters liek Lakshmibai, Maharana Pratap, Prithviraj Chauhan, Shivaji, etc are alive and will be till there is someone to remember them!

Rakht ka mulya!- this can only be paid with blood itself, Pratap was angry at the end, and thats what the mughals wanted, they wanted the two enemies to fight each other and die but I think Pratap will realise it soon cuz in the precap it seems he is trying to stop war! And in anger people say things they regret later, but Pratap's anger was right, he just lost his friends and mentor RK!

US- revived himself today by showing up at the right time and saving his son! I think he should at least acknowledge that Pratap was right in coming here! well anywho, he said some very good and meaningful words and the way he threw that knife, was awesome!!! he has not lost his fighting skills after all this time! LOL!

We all saw Pratap's shoe knives right? amazing right? well they are symbolic- so Jalal conspired against Pratap aur usne chaal chali Pratap ke virrudh! So Pratap using his feet to kill the soldiers and killing his chaal with his chaal (walk, act, shoe) put an end to this part of Jalal's plan!

RK just lying there was so moving, it was so sad to see Pratap remember their pledge they took to fight for their motherland till death! Pratap taking RK's hand is symbolic of the fact that even as RK is dead, Pratap will honour the Bhil-Rajput alliance and carry on the fight for the motherland! And that the promise still stands!

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Title: US's lightening entry& They didnt die, they're immortal!


Pratap reaches his Guru and finds out what happened; the three stooges of jalal want to capture Pratap to get reward!

the mughals are looking for Pratap; Pratap is tending to Guruji; and Pratap makes a strategy to face the mughals- Pratap loves his barud!

Pratap goes to get the barud and lays it down with a plan in mind!!! I love it when he uses barud, makes it so good!

OMG, Pratap takes a pledge by touching the ground and says that till he has even a drop of blood in him he will not let mughals step foot in Mewad!!!! I swear a chill ran thru me!

Kya nishana sadha Pratap ne! Pratap is trying to make spark and ends up throwing the rock at the other rock and gets a nice explosion!!! everyone on mughal side is like what the heck just happened- thats right the lion is in the house! run!

Ok so Pratap walks out of the fire like a south indian film hero lol! and his arm is burning of course our hero doesnt feel a darn thing!!! lol

And they changed the sad song into a song to inspire- that no one can stop the veer- damn right you cant stop them!

Pratap totally brushes off the fire like its dust (no i saw dust or ash when he brushed it off! LOL)

Pratap goes back to Guruji and tells him he diverted the mughals attention!
two soldiers decide to kill Pratap as they think they saw him!

Pratap is walking back to Guruji and Ajabdeh's mala gets stuck on something and remembers her words- to be cautious on the battlefield! so once again she saved him!

and he sees the soldiers waiting for him! ok I have no idea how he managed to jump on top of the front roof! cuz he just came out of no where and stabbed both the soldiers with a sharp object that he had strapped to his feet!

Guruji says that he cant leave him behind- Pratap says who? Guruji says its CHakrapani!!
Guruji says dont worry about him and go to chittod and inform US; Guruji orders him to leave! oh so I see why Pratap strapped Guruji to him cuz he couldnt disobey the order but he could leave him there!

SO now US and family see the fire from the distance and JB says that Pratap is there, so instead of taking a sena (like a smart person), US is going there alone! ok CVs im fed up with this!

Pratap finds Chakrapani in a unconscious state! Pratap takes him with him! And I love Pratap's shoe knives!!! dont even have to lift a hand to kill someone, just a foot or feet! lol

Pratap tells Chakrapani that im waiting for US to come, hopefully he comes fast!

Pratap says to Guruji that we both will fight, and that you have the capability to fight! Jai Mewad

precap scene- where Chakrapani is being kicked and Pratap+Guruji make their entry- they are tied together- looks weird but I guess it can be done with proper coordination!

They start shooting arrows- they make a very good team, I must say!!

ok so the hand to hand and feet combat was interesting, im sorry i thought it was funny how Guruji handled the kicking and pratap the punching lol! looked like a fight scene from a priyadarshan movie llol!

Ok so it got better when they took out the kattars and started fighting! good stuff! they manage to kill all the soldiers around them!! that was a good fight!

nasir the stooge challenges Pratap to a fight! and Pratap kills one of the stooges and the other stooges are hit by an arrow!!! guess who finally arrived and is fightign= US and his soldiers- when they said Jai Mewad!!! it was so thrilling, such a moment of pride!!!!

Guruji is not waking up! well obviously he has lost a lot of blood and he just fought! ok so those two stooges that US shot were only injured, US never learn to kill his enemy, not injure!!
well the other stooge is about to throw a knife when US hears or senses danger and sees the stooge and throws a knife at him and kills him!!! OMG! US and his reflexes- soo good!

nasir says marwad helped them get here- i have my doubts on that!
they are shocked!
US sees Guruji's hand move!!! so he is alive!!!

Pratap sees his dead friends, RS, Anuj, Pratap finally sees Rana Khetta and remembers how he pledged his life to the fight for the motherland!
Pratap remembers the alliance they formed with bhils- rani jaya, bhili jaya bhai bhai!!! So sad!

US comes and says do not mourn them, they died smiling and fighting for their motherland, they didnt die, they became immortal! sooo true!!! and US says that crying for them would mean that you are insulting their sacrifice! I have heard this line in the movie long time back- i think Purab aur paschim!

US says marwad is coming, and Pratap says that the betrayers of the land will suffer and pay for what they did!

Precap- marwad gets the dead soldiers, more war, Pratap says he has to end this war...

Today was good towards the end, the first half was hide and seek game! i was like really iss se toh acha 30 min hai!! But the fight at the end was good, US's entry was great, finally he is of some use! And Pratap walking around and remembering his mentor and friends was so moving!!!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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outstanding analysis n symbolism
though again today it's stretched little but never mind...
Like few things
first Pratap saved Gurudev n pratap n Gurudev emotional yet imp conversation
sec pratap saved by ajab who was not there but yet she always saved pratap..hope Ajab herself understand she is pratap's strength ...
third...Pratap-gurudev combination a lethal one for enemy
Fourth their fighting against mughal
fifth Pratap how cleverly killed those mughal soldiers n use of barood
Sixth US entry right time...
seventh US's talking about Saheer how pratap remember each n everyone emotional

don't like
First too much stretching at one point
sec bore from db n her lecture spreading venom...
third ...Jalal n jalal his cruelty
awesome analysis loved to read it...
n first I demand today background song n song for pratap give me Rati

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Edited by Krishna_Sourav - 11 years ago
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Today was good- 30 mins would have been better and although some scenes were quite far fetched like hitting the rock spot on and igniting them... but who cares, today had Pratap written all over it and Faisal was superb- so I really liked it!

Really liked your analysis Rati, especially the following.

I am in blue 😉

Originally posted by: Intrepida


A warrior never rests - never in mind and spirit. As soon as Pratap stepped into Kridaghar(or is it Pidaghar?), everything has become fast paced and that's not because of the content writer/ director... Its because of Pratap's undying zeal, presence of mind and foresight!

Ajabdeh- once again saved pratap today!
Pratap doesn't know the truth about the mala- and yet Pratap remembered Ajabs sanket because of it! It seems people who share their souls, can hear each other even through lifeless objects that bind them in some way! Beautiful. Also Pratap's been sporting only the mala as his accessory in his new war attire even in Precap...

tumhare ghar mei gaddar hai- Nasir said that, and i dont think marwar did this, but he is right, anyone who doesnt help unify Rajputana is a gaddar!! so maldev, his family are traitors to the land! Anyone who spills unnecessary blood for their own cause is a gaddar- like Jalal (he was born in Rajputana)- so he is the number one gaddar- you dont spill the blood of your own people (they were born on the same land jalal was born on) to increase your land inventory!

NASEER KHANS strategy- that endnote on Marwar- dhoorth kahin ka! Like master like servant... Naseer doesnt know about Jalals impromptu decision to bhadkao Marwar agaisnt Mewar through treachery but he has used the same strategy like Jalal to bhadkao Prataap!

But his info isn't true and I was surprised that Pratap who is always so cautious like GR when it comes to believing his opponents- how come he just blindly accepted Naseer Khans warning about Marwar. Does he really believe that Marwar has sided with Mughals?

well pointed out Rati- Jalal born on the same land is gaddar too!


They didnt die, they became immortal!... if we just keep this in mind that the soul never dies and as long as there is even one person there to remember that martyr, that martyr or martyrs are not dead, they are alive, so in theory, all our great freedom fighters liek Lakshmibai, Maharana Pratap, Prithviraj Chauhan, Shivaji, etc are alive and will be till there is someone to remember them!

👏

US- revived himself today by showing up at the right time and saving his son! I think he should at least acknowledge that Pratap was right in coming here! well anywho, he said some very good and meaningful words and the way he threw that knife, was awesome!!! he has not lost his fighting skills after all this time! LOL!
MP SHOULD NOW BE CALLED ONLY JB'S SON... US IS SIMPLY JUTAOING FAME FOR NOTHING...Fool that he is, even after owning up several times that he should have listened to Pratap's intuition he always always retreats. And today he didn't even ask for forgiveness for not believing Prataap/ for admonishing him! His only saving grace is his entry in Kridaghar today...

RK just lying there was so moving, it was so sad to see Pratap remember their pledge they took to fight for their motherland till death! Pratap taking RK's hand is symbolic of the fact that even as RK is dead, Pratap will honour the Bhil-Rajput alliance and carry on the fight for the motherland! And that the promise still stands!

Loved that scene...
I also noticed that
Pratap roused Chakrapani with his sweat- I don't know why but it warmed me to see this... And yet reh rehkar yeh vichaar man mein ghoom rahyo hai- Sweat is thicker than water (LOL)


Edited by shrutijest. - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Sweat thicker than water Shruti. Hahaha. Say this raj Kumar style

Tumhara paani to sirf hai paani
Par humara pasina. Humara pasina woh hai Jo murde ko jagade jaani...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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ur title for the update 🤣
just wondering...abhi yeh haal hai...when haldighati will happen what are they going to do 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Pratap seeing Guruji and immediately coming to his aid was touching. Last year it was the tough guru who boosted Pratap. Tonight it was the shishya who kept trying to revive his guru morally and physically.
Mala saved and alerted Pratap today. 😊

I liked how he fetched barood and caused blast and fire. But his walking off with fire on his arm was filmy.

Dhoom 3 ads onscreen in between were distracting. Sony!😡

US is nothing in my eyes. Did he acknowledge his mistakes and Pratap being right in going there?

DB was taunting JB and hoping Pratap veergati ko praapt ho jaye. What a 😡 I want to know when she died. I loathe her! 🤢

Pratap touches soil and takes oath to protect motherland till his last breath. Always inspiring such scenes!

I find hourly episodes dragging. I did lose interest in between.😕

Guru is a tough guy. He did manage to get up and fight. 😊

But still that scene of them tied together was funny.

Enemy soldiers die with one stab. Pratap and co, survive despite several stabs.

Can CVs make battle sequences more even and convincing?

Pratap reviving Chakrapani with drops of his sweat was far fetched and yuck.

US is still dheela despite the way he hurled his knife.

I agree with what he told Pratap. It is an insult to martyrs to cry for them. Their sacrifices are honoured not mourned.

Pratap has come a long way from last year. Will go on to become tougher. Life was harsh back then, no wonder people were tougher, more stoic.

Their outlandish way of handling some scenes and dragging is putting me off.

Episodes should be 30 minutes. 1 hour should only be for final showdown.

Maldev is a fool. One does not even cross check anything? Threatening of gory wars. Get lost buddhe!😡
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krishna_Sourav

outstanding analysis n symbolism
though again today it's stretched little but never mind...
Like few things
first Pratap saved Gurudev n pratap n Gurudev emotional yet imp conversation
sec pratap saved by ajab who was not there but yet she always saved pratap..hope Ajab herself understand she is pratap's strength ...
third...Pratap-gurudev combination a lethal one for enemy
Fourth their fighting against mughal
fifth Pratap how cleverly killed those mughal soldiers n use of barood
Sixth US entry right time...
seventh US's talking about Saheer how pratap remember each n everyone emotional

don't like
First too much stretching at one point
sec bore from db n her lecture spreading venom...
third ...Jalal n jalal his cruelty
awesome analysis loved to read it...
n first I demand today background song n song for pratap give me Rati

Edited


Thanks! I liked all the scenes you liked- and it should have been just that, didnt need whole hour!!
yea they stretched it too much!! thats why i didnt talk about DB- she is not worth my time!
the song had chakrapani talking in between, its not a good copy, im sure there will be more times this song will be played!
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Originally posted by: shrutijest.

Today was good- 30 mins would have been better and although some scenes were quite far fetched like hitting the rock spot on and igniting them... but who cares, today had Pratap written all over it and Faisal was superb- so I really liked it!

Really liked your analysis Rati, especially the following.

I am in blue 😉


they stretched too much today, it should be just 30 min, do these CVs come and read our post, we literally complain about the length everytime!!! im sure the actors and crew wont mind shooting less and getting some off time instead!!!

Thanks, glad you liked it!
you are right, warrior never rests, always alert!
its about time Pratap knew who the mala belongs too!
Pratap was angry thats why he believed nasir's words for that moment but i think he will think about it later and realise its a plot!
you are right, Pratap should be called JB's son, cuz US, as much as I liked him today, at the end of the day he goes back to being a complete duffer! lol! its like a talent that US has!

sweat scene, i actually missed that part lol!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: itv2014

ur title for the update 🤣
just wondering...abhi yeh haal hai...when haldighati will happen what are they going to do 😆


thanks!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: atominis

Pratap seeing Guruji and immediately coming to his aid was touching. Last year it was the tough guru who boosted Pratap. Tonight it was the shishya who kept trying to revive his guru morally and physically.

Mala saved and alerted Pratap today. 😊

I liked how he fetched barood and caused blast and fire. But his walking off with fire on his arm was filmy.

Dhoom 3 ads onscreen in between were distracting. Sony!😡

US is nothing in my eyes. Did he acknowledge his mistakes and Pratap being right in going there?

DB was taunting JB and hoping Pratap veergati ko praapt ho jaye. What a 😡 I want to know when she died. I loathe her! 🤢

Pratap touches soil and takes oath to protect motherland till his last breath. Always inspiring such scenes!

I find hourly episodes dragging. I did lose interest in between.😕

Guru is a tough guy. He did manage to get up and fight. 😊

But still that scene of them tied together was funny.

Enemy soldiers die with one stab. Pratap and co, survive despite several stabs.

Can CVs make battle sequences more even and convincing?

Pratap reviving Chakrapani with drops of his sweat was far fetched and yuck.

US is still dheela despite the way he hurled his knife.

I agree with what he told Pratap. It is an insult to martyrs to cry for them. Their sacrifices are honoured not mourned.

Pratap has come a long way from last year. Will go on to become tougher. Life was harsh back then, no wonder people were tougher, more stoic.

Their outlandish way of handling some scenes and dragging is putting me off.

Episodes should be 30 minutes. 1 hour should only be for final showdown.

Maldev is a fool. One does not even cross check anything? Threatening of gory wars. Get lost buddhe!😡


Pratap-Guru bonding was really nicely shown!
yea the whole fire on his arm was over the top, i didnt know whether i should disown the CV or laugh because it was sooo filmy!

US should have acknowledged his mistake but I did like his entry at the right time!
DB- not worth my time, so didnt talk about her! apna mu kyu kharab kare!!

Pratap touching the soil and pledging was great!
yea Guruji-Pratap tied looked funny, i think i laughed when they were doing the whole kick punch part!

those stabs towards the end were on the throat- you dont live after that!
Pratap and Guruji were not hurt on their throat!

I wish they went back to 30 min episodes!

I was so happy not seeing Maldev for a few days, and now i saw him in the precap, not cool!


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