Broken friendships and burning heartaches - Page 5

Originally posted by: shrutijest.

Roopsha, You have set me thinking and even if I am rambling😳, would love to hear your views especially where I am thinking on a wrong track... 😊

My views on your above comment-

True, Ajab has suffered being ostracized by her dad since childhood. And it has affected her self-esteem - i.e., she doesn't expect regard for herself from anyone. I agree that she has become pessimist about her own status but I felt that she brought out optimism in everyone- so much so that Pratap always asked for her opinion when in bijolia.

She doesn't expect people to accept her as someone worthy but somehow she knows her worth. My reference in point is when she says to Pratap- "don't feel ashamed of thinking that I am a dasi, hamare hao bhao hi aise hain' -She said that without any remorse. Which I thought was possible only if you have immense confidence in what you are. She knows her rehan sehan is un-princessly but she continues to be herself. Also she says to Phool and to Pratap a couple of times - "pata nahi par humein sab pata chal jata hai" .

Ofcourse her character built itself very strongly and rapidly with Pratap around in Bijolia but even prior to that i found her extremely meek only in presence of her father.

I agree she was hesitant to enter new relationships (especially when HB revealed her dream for PrAja to her) but I found her reason and way of reasoning more pragmatic than emotional. She has always maintained that she is unworthy of Pratap as she is samants beti. Which we see her doing even today. I feel Phool is not her shield. She was going to tell Pratap everything - about mala, her feelings for him; after mala scene before Phool confessed. And since then she only wanted to walk out for Praphool to happen, cutting off Prataps yearning for her. She simply wants to give up mostly for her best friend- her soul mate. Prior to this I don't think she ever retaliated to Pratap in the negative owing to her self misery. (please correct me if I am wrong)

As for the sword lesson episode- I thought she shrugged because she had already made up her mind to ask Pratap to leave for her parents sake. In The training scene though- she definitely wanted to avoid that closeness with Pratap (after she had a FB abt Phools confession).

I totally agree that she is not being mahan (for sometime I did hate her sacrificial mode but I understand now that in times like these, sacrifices were easily made). Ajab is like that, not mahan but a simple person with little aspirations.

Also another point is her conviction that she can affect Pratap. She does not use it to manipulate him. She reasons it out with him like a sensible confident person. She knows that they both come on the same page once they have discussed things.

Ok bash me up- i have gone all over ...

Originally posted by: roopshas1

Thank you😳 I know this is a little late but I have forgotten your name. Can you tell it again? And are you a girl or a boy?

My name is Priya. A girl 😆. I think it would be child abuse if someone named their boy Priya.

You are right. Phool is right now not even running on her crush. She's running on her ego. I don't know what's running inside her head but whatever it is, its not love.

As for Ajabde, its very hard to understand the extent of abuse she has suffered and the extent of its repercussions. Most abused people tend to see world through extremely pessimistic eyes. They are scared of entering new relationships or things because they are unconsciously scared of getting hurt. You see, Ajabde started pushing away Pratap even way before Phool was on the love scene. She is just using Phool as a shield and an excuse. She is not being mahaan. She didn't choose Phool over Pratap. She is being the typical abuse victim.

If you remember, Ajab was alright till the time Pratap suggested he give her private sword-fighting lessons. The moment he suggested so, she realised that he was seeking intimacy with her - whether it was her time or her care or just being physically close to her. She immediately reacted violently, telling him to leave Bijolia. This is a form of extreme subconscious self-defense mechanism which mostly seen in those who have suffered abuse from the time of birth. MM didn't just abuse her. He literally made her want to erase her own existence. He didn't ever let her build anything called confidence. For such a person to receive special personal attention from a person who is regarded as a messiah of some kind is extremely scary. She is frightened. Scared out of wits. She has accepted that she has feelings for Pratap but she has not accepted that she can have a relationship with Pratap. Especially one which is probably the most intimate of any relationships. The moment Pratap showed signs of wanting to share something special with her, she cut the bud at its nip by making him leave. Before she can even accept anything else, Phool confessed and Ajab single-handedly decided to make PraPhool happen, even if it meant forcing Phool on Pratap. She believes that she is doing something right for both of them as they are "worthy" of each other. A rather twisted logic but anybody here who has had an abusive past will understand and agree with it.

Yeah, I get your explanation. It's so wrong, everything that has happened to her. But i'm sure she'll eventually realise her worth and become a great maharani like JB.

Currently the status quo is that Ajab and Pratap have both accepted and confessed their feelings for each other. Pratap wants to be with her but Ajab does not. To stop Pratap from pursuing her, she is putting Phool in between them. Not that it is stopping Pratap but for PraJa to be together, Ajab needs to want to be with Pratap. She needs to want him in her life. Maybe, Ajmer track/ jungle track will make her want to fight for him. Maybe, Pratap will be fatally wounded again which will make Ajab realise that life is short and it should be lived to its fullest. Maybe he even tricks her into saying yes to marrying him.😆 Her dumbfounded expressions and denials will a sight to behold.

As for Phool, I really don't know what to feel for her. I will reserve my judgement for her till the end of this week.

I think US understands what PraJa are going through but his hands are tied now especially since he is dealing with RM. Come on, I don't think he is at fault. Remember, he said that if they show even the slightest amount of sympathy or affection towards Ajab right now then the Marwaris will be furious. He does care about her but right now, he can't do anything.
I agree, he's not at fault..

Originally posted by: *KT*~Lakshya*

Originally posted by: bitblue

enjoying this lovely discussion.

Originally posted by: ...Jes...

Roop.i will now beat you ..😆 Phool doesn't need any sympathy here! Ajab did a favor on her but due to her egoistic and selfish nature,she couldn't see it and what kind of sympathy she exactly needs? 😕 plz explain!

Originally posted by: bitblue

true initially i felt sorry for her as with her one sided love and living in dream land she had completely ignored whats happening between praja in front of her . but now truth is out and when she cried after drama i was sorry for her but when she started showing her true color and selfishness no more sorry for her.

now she knows it totally one sided pratap never liked her and he is crying out loud in front of everyone for to be with ajab, no is listening still she wants pratap.😡

Originally posted by: roopshas1

Sorry Priya. Its just that your username has Lakshya, a boy's name, in it and the DP also has a man's pic in it. So, well, since I have been interacting with you thinking you are a girl but sort of got lost in between and ended up confusing up people and their genders out here so...I apologise for it.😛

Originally posted by: roopshas1

Originally posted by: shrutijest.

Originally posted by: twisted_beenz

Lovely discussion