The Three Jauhars of Chittorgarh - Page 4

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

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Rana uday sing II was the king of mevar. Akbar laid a Siege on chittorgarh one of importamt forts of mewar. The royal family fled and uday songh founded udaypur he won back mevar but could not win back chittor

Pratap and akbar faught many battlrs. Pratap never lost mevar and never won back chittor. On his deathbed he made is son amatsingh wow to continue the battle for chittor. Amarsingh fought 17 battles with Akbar. Ultimately he felt its useless to fight. He went into peaceful alliance with akbar

The sisodiya family that is prataps family ruled me are from 7th century ad to 17th century

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

I thought they continued - Rana Raj Singh, the great grandson of Rana Pratap, got into war w/ Aurangzeb and allied w/ Durgadas of Marwar. He also rescued Princess Chanchal Kumari of Roopnagar, who Aurangzeb wanted b'cos she dared to stamp on his portrait. The Rajputs trounced a Moghul attempt to capture her, and she got united w/ Raj Singh and married him.

Aren't today's royal family members of Udaipur descendants of Rana Pratap & Rana Kumbha?

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

The practice of Jauhar didn't exist in the period preceding the Muslim invasions. The reason it came about was that those invaders, be it Mahmoud of Ghazni, Mohammad Ghori, Alaudin Khilji and all other Muslim invaders believed that after a city was captured, it was legitimate to possess the women of the city as sex slaves. This was there throughout the Caliphate - for instance, after the fall of Constantinople, the Turks converted Byzantine Christian boys to Islam and used them in war against other non-Muslims on their borders - like the Greeks, Serbs, Russians and others. Such converted slave fanatics were known as Janissaries - this was a trend pretty much discussed in Balkan history.

That's what would have faced the Rajputs had Jauhar not been practiced. In the original Arab invasion of Sind, a couple of Hindu princesses were captured and sent to Baghdad by Mohammed bin Qasin to the Caliph. They managed to turn the tables on Qasim by genitally mutilating each other and then claiming to the caliph that Qasim had deflowered them before sending them to him. That's what got Qasim recalled and executed 😈

Anyway, once precedents like this started, countermeasures obviously came about once word of practices such as these and worse went around. Result was that whenever the Rajputs were at war w/ Muslims, whether it was the Khiljis or Baz Bahadur or the Moghuls, they did that in order to prevent the survivors from being used as tools to further subjugate other Hindus. It's also worth noting that after the Moghul empire collapsed and the Marathas overran Rajputana, the Marathas and the Rajputs fought battles w/ each other, but on those occasions, the Rajput women did not commit Jauhar, since they knew that the Marathas followed Hindu war practices and didn't do the same things.

About Varaali's description of Madurai above, there was more. After Malik Kafur's conquest of Madurai, a sultanate by the name of Ma'abar was established, and its savagery is described in Dr RC Majumdar's volume 'The Delhi Sultanate' in his history series. Essentially, the sultans of Ma'abar were a sadistic lot and loved practising genocide against the Hindus. Fortunately, that sultanate was short lived as the newly formed Vijaynagar kingdom invaded Ma'abar, overthrew the sultanate and annexed it to the Vijaynagar kingdom.

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

Thanks vrish you always come up with some interesting bit of information 😊 Yes jauhar was for self preservation . I understand that. And I even respect it. But what I don't understand, is couldn't they find a less painful way to die?

Originally posted by: varaali

I have a couple of question here-

1. The preparations for Jouhar -which is being currently shown in the serial- is this the third Jouhar of Chittorgarh. Can't be because in that Jouhar, the queens of Udai Singh escaped along with their husband and sons.So who actually committed Jouhar then?
2. Are Chittor and Mewar the same? Udai Singh was referred to as Mewar-raj. Is the current scenario in the serial taking place in Mewar or Chittor?

Originally posted by: Nandiniraizaada

Thanks vrish you always come up with some interesting bit of information 😊 Yes jauhar was for self preservation . I understand that. And I even respect it. But what I don't understand, is couldn't they find a less painful way to die?