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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

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Posted: 7 years ago

#771

Originally posted by: manya_roy

@Shruti, notice that Arjun uses others shoulders to reach up, isn't it symbolic enough, he uses others to achieve what he wants?
As for Maya and Saanjh let's see how much more messed up and screwed up these two characters become.

Symbolisms are an important aspect of films & shows, esp in India...often, direct symbolisms are used which the layman can understand...they also often play upon ancient superstitious beliefs n rituals to show symbolisms...

Beyond that, I don't think there's a hidden symbolism in every cut shown by the director, or every single scene of a show...one can dissect n analyse endlessly, but mostly, it turns out to be futile...

As per my interpretation. Of the show n it's symbolisms shown right from the first episode, the story line is in sync ...of course, the script has had lots of loopholes n bloopers, n most characters are sketched very very poorly...yet, the makers have not detracted from the main theme of the show, imo...

The show, from the first episode was about how Saajun were meant to be, how Maya came between them, how she wrecked Arjuns life, how Saanjh helped Arjun to see thru her maayajaal, n how they will eventually regain control of their lives...😃

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anshvi

@anshvi

Sparkler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#772

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Symbolisms are an important aspect of films & shows, esp in India...often, direct symbolisms are used which the layman can understand...they also often play upon ancient superstitious beliefs n rituals to show symbolisms...

Beyond that, I don't think there's a hidden symbolism in every cut shown by the director, or every single scene of a show...one can dissect n analyse endlessly, but mostly, it turns out to be futile...

As per my interpretation. Of the show n it's symbolisms shown right from the first episode, the story line is in sync ...of course, the script has had lots of loopholes n bloopers, n most characters are sketched very very poorly...yet, the makers have not detracted from the main theme of the show, imo...

The show, from the first episode was about how Saajun were meant to be, how Maya came between them, how she wrecked Arjuns life, how Saanjh helped Arjun to see thru her maayajaal, n how they will eventually regain control of their lives...😃

Yes agree ! symbolisms are often used by makers when they want do drive home a point in a creative way and they often use such symbolisms which even a layman or a normal viewer can interpret easily.

There isn't necessarily hidden symbolisms in every cut , scene , or dialogue...One can interpret and try to find symbolisms in order to suit their own assumptions at times but it isn't necessary that makers have put any symbolism in those scenes...It is a matter of perception i guess.

See, although unlikely but even if Arjun turns out to be a mastermind then it won't mean that his entry scene or dance sequence pointed that out...For me it was a simple entry scene and a dance sequence and nothing more

The symbolism used in that sequence in my opinion was when Maya pushed Saanjh and took her place...It was evident from that scene that Maya soon will hold a special place in Arjun's life and which happened as well

That dupatta scene was also symbolic - Maya's duppata falls on Arjun's eyes...for a long time Arjun was unaware about Maya's true nature...he blindly trusted her and left his family for her, he trusted her and not his bro...but eventually Saanjh removes that duppatta from his eyes and saves Arjun and herself from the accident - Maya's illusion was broken by Saanjh and Co and then eventually Arjun comes to know about Maya's truth...Arjun keeps the dupatta and tells Saanjh that he will use it to wipe the car- I think this still needs to play out in some way

But scenes like Tulsi's death or Arjun's dance are not symbolic in my opinion...Tulsi's death was a simple case of an innocent dying at Maya's hands and Arjun's dance was just that - a dance.

So far makers have stick to their concept and used symbolisms efficiently - Story of a woman 'Maya' who's obsession destroys lives of those who come between her and her obsession...Maya comes in Arjun and Saanjh's lives, takes that place in Arjun's life which Saanjh could have taken/She occupies a special place in Arjun's life but her obsession soon destroys everyone's lives.

But anyway everyone is entitled to have their opinion...to each his own.😃

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Fernandes43

@Fernandes43

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#773

Maya's career in spreading evil & handing down deaths to her victims, has now taken yet another major stride, if one has to go by media clips posted here!

What started as Anti-Saanjh campaign became gradually, anti-Sharmas!
Then, her target expanded to Mathurs & even to both senior mehrotras! It cut across families, making it anti-Khandan!
Now, after jumping prison, if she is going to resort in carpet-bombing by mixing poison, to kill many kids, hoping to cover even Aarohi -an attempt to mass murder innocent kids, nevertheless- who apparently did not accept her bait!
Or , it could be an effort to demolish Arjun's business reputation!
Perhaps, both!
Whatever it may be, this is clearly a case of crossing one more line or boundary!
As an unbounded maya keeps trespassing every limit, she is qualifying herself now, to be called as an anti-social, with this shameless act!
What will be her next target or mission?
To become an anti-national & then finally anti-humanity to cap it all!
May be, that is why she took some pride in identifying herself as a Rakshas!

Maya's quota of killings is not yet over, as she is targeting more & more innocent persons!
It is something around ten already, but an unsatisfied & unstoppable Maya is still counting!
It is navrathri season!!
Will Sanjeshwari devi draw inspiration from Chanundeswari devi to tame this rakshas?
Or, are the Rajkumar & Rajkumari going to be swallowed by the rakshas?

If the Rakshas wins over a devi- with a Gita at her elbow's reach- then we can say the CVs have really pulled it off, by giving us a major twist in the story!
Alternately, if it is nothing more than an usual story of good winning over evil, then Mr & Mrs. Sharma will have to wait for their Vijaya dashami some more time, as the story is not getting over in a hurry!

Edited by Fernandes43 - 7 years ago

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Beyhadfan

@Beyhadfan

Navigator

Posted: 7 years ago

#774

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

Symbolisms are an important aspect of films & shows, esp in India...often, direct symbolisms are used which the layman can understand...they also often play upon ancient superstitious beliefs n rituals to show symbolisms...

Beyond that, I don't think there's a hidden symbolism in every cut shown by the director, or every single scene of a show...one can dissect n analyse endlessly, but mostly, it turns out to be futile...

As per my interpretation. Of the show n it's symbolisms shown right from the first episode, the story line is in sync ...of course, the script has had lots of loopholes n bloopers, n most characters are sketched very very poorly...yet, the makers have not detracted from the main theme of the show, imo...

The show, from the first episode was about how Saajun were meant to be, how Maya came between them, how she wrecked Arjuns life, how Saanjh helped Arjun to see thru her maayajaal, n how they will eventually regain control of their lives...😃

I disagree... when Maya's dupatta fell on Arjun...that was not planned by anyone...it was destiny. It was destiny that Arjun would be at that particular location...precisely at the same time that the dupatta accidentally fell from the balcony. The first episode of the series... it is shown that after arjun declares that no one could take Saanjh place... Saanjh falls forward and Maya's feet fit perfectly on feet that have been imprinted in the sand(Saanjh feet)... again...this was not planned... but destiny. To me this does not indicate that saajun were meant to be...but that Arya were meant to be. Btw I don't know why people continue to say Maya came between saajun...the friendship...yes...because Saanjh attempted to kiss her husband...but she didn't come between anything else...Arjun didn't love Saanjh at that point...he didn't give a toss when Vandy or her mother would speak about getting her married...infact he would encoarge it...

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#775

Exactly Beyhadhfan if Maya had looked down and kept her feet on Saanjh imprints then she tried to take the place. But she walked straight, she was looking at Ganesha, she was not even aware she is keeping her feet on some other girl's imprint. That was destiny, God's wish as per the scene.

Coming to duppatta it was also not pre-planned. Maya was crying and as she took her hand to wipe her tear, the duppatta fell on Arjun. Though I had first interpreted it as Arjun suffering in Maya's hands, on second thoughts it can also mean, Maya's tears is what is dangerous for Arjun, her pain. As the duppatta falls when she is about to wipe the tear. Even if we dont take that away it was an accident which Maya didnt intend.

If we look at things that way, then remember the man who took Arjun's wallet when he was being kidnapped, then Arjun was responsible for that man's death who was immediately rushed over by a lorry. Even I guess I had put it that way in one of the analysis. But watching that first episode and reading you it was only shown connecting the duppatta scene.

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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

#776

Yes Shruti, but events that followed said otherwise. Ur saying she didn't intend to harm him, but didn't she do exactly that in full consciousness and will? Why did she have to kill Vandana? Why did she have to frame Arjun in her fake murder case? Why did she have to trap Ayaan in the fake rape case? Why did she have to torture Saanjh? Were circumstances such that she couldn't avoid committing these crimes? Certainly not. Im repeating it here. Maya chose to kill. She had no valid reason to kill these people. Her reason was to own Arjun and that is no way valid or justified.

And about taking Saanjh's place, Maya's men pushed Saanjh and forcefully threw her from that spot. And then Maya came and took that spot. Saanjh didn't move from that spot on her own. Yes, it was destiny as well that's why everything that happened happened in the first place, but Maya made sure Saanjh was out of Arjun's life not once, but a thousand times, deliberately.

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#777

@beyhadhfan:

A symbolism is always natural...never man made...never...

Hence, an omen can be a good omen or a bad omen, depending on what the results effectively are...

Hence, when Maya entered Sharma household, CVS showed her foot getting pricked n then the "bloody" trail...which Vandana took as a bad omen...even I didn't approve of Vandana superstitious chest beating then, 😆, but in hind sight, I realise that it was the CVS attempt to drop a hint to us about the actual bloody trail which Maya was going to leave later...in the Sharma household

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

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Posted: 7 years ago

#778

It was her blood that fell in Sharma household, not anyone of the sharma people. It meant her blood will fall in that household. Either injury to her, death to her or to her child. If we believe Arya baby is dead, then yes that house hold did play a very important role in the death of her bandar. This I had put earlier also and this is the same way I had predicted Prem's death. Saanjh finger cutting while trying to seperate Arjun and Maya. Either she or someone close to her most importantly her father will die in the process.

Generally in symbolism when blood is shown it is either them or their blood relations.

Edited by shruthiravi - 7 years ago

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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

#779

how can u say that Shruti? It's totally fine if u believe Vandana pushed her (which I am sure she didn't, u may disagree) what did Ayaan, Saanjh and Arjun do that made her lose her Bandar? Ayaan instigated her? So if someone instigated u u directly go to kill that person? And even if Ayaan instigated her how is he responsible for Bandar's death? Wasn't he fighting for his own life in the hospital? How is Saanjh and Arjun responsible for Bandar's death? Just how? 😕

Maya herself said she won't let even the kid come in between both of them. Isn't it proof enough that she wanted to get rid of the kid so that she could carry out her master plan of fake death. Well, atleast to me it is. U may disagree here.

Edit: this reply is for the part u wrote before editing Ur post ie before u added the Saanjh bit.

Okay, if that is ur perspective, let me add mine here.

Saanjh never deliberately separated ArYa. She cut their pic long before ArYa had any sort of romantic relationship with each other. She shed the blood, but it wasn't her fault. Prem dying wasn't her fault, except that she blurted out that prem had the evidence in front of maya, which Maya would've anyway known courtesy Samay.

On the other hand, we have Maya. Who deliberately hurt everyone and shed their blood. Hence she received Bandar's death in return. she deliberately went to kill Ayaan, deliberately left blood trails in the house for Vandana to see, washed her blood stained clothes by keeping the bathroom door open and deliberately had the scuffle with Vandana.

End result was her tripping and Bandar dying. Can Saanjh and Maya's situation be compared here? I think not.

Edited by lumos_31 - 7 years ago

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Khushi_love

@Khushi_love

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#780

I think it's high high high time we stopped trying to make Maya a victim, when the show is screaming n telling us everyday that Maya is a monstrous murderess... 😆

Even if Arya baby is to be taken as dead, it is Maya who has killed it...it will most definitely be revealed later that Maya fell down the steps on purpose...

Sharma household has been a victim of Maya's crimes...n by default, so has mathur household...period.