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Posted: 7 years ago
Shruti, apologies if this sounds blunt, but would you then consider paedophiles and other perverts as merely having a mental problem and curable by acceptance and love?

Would any parent allow a paedophile near their child? If the paedophile had a fetish for girls (and not boys going by his history), would you still allow him near a boy child/teen?

Of course not!- Nobody would believe that they are reedemable, and would consider them dangers to society. People would then justify the mother's behaviour as protective, but nobody sees Vandana's actions that way. She saw a lady with a potentially explosive past walk into the life of her son, who hadn't quite seen the dangers of the world, and chose to try and keep him away from it.

The doctor at Maya's trial said she was perfectly fine, with presumably no mental illness, and as clever a person as could be. Maya can also, in her own words, know she's doing wrong, but continues doing it.

It is weird to compare a mental illness with a physical one. While one could argue that some minor mental illnesses can be cured, some others go beyond redemption and it's practically impossible to bring them back on track because nobody knows how the brain works, and whether it's actually been cured or not.

I can't possibly see how you can compare Saanjh's anxiety issue with Maya's psychopathic, obsessive one.

It would've needed an exceptional set of people, who stay as per Maya's boundaries and devote her life to her, and completely sacrifice their way of thinking to live as per her ways, to keep Maya from straying even the tiniest bit. In normal society, that's unfortunately not possible.

Saanjh's problem is not one that requires people to sacrifice their way of thinking and adapt to completely living life the way she wants it.



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Posted: 7 years ago
And u talking about assurance Shruti? Didn't 3 yrs give her assurance. Who was there to take away Arjun from her in those 3 yrs they lived without the rest of the family? If at the end of 3 yrs, ur husband is annoyed and done with u, when he has nothing or nobody else to maintain relationships with but u, fault is in u. Not in the husband or society. Still Maya baby didn't keep quiet at just having Arjun to herself. She goes ahead and plants Samay in Saanjh's life knowing fully well how crazy Samay is. Tell me, is this also society's or Saanjh's fault?
Even after all this, Arjun stood by Maya and didn't believe his brother who was his jaan. Slept with her so that she doesn't feel like an outcast, like she's dirty.
Let himself be portrayed as a wife beater in front of the world just so that his wife who's cuckoo in the head be happy.
Didn't look at his mother or best friend who were about to be shot even once when Maya fell unconscious.
Now When Arjun started taking a stand for what's right he committed a huge crime? Brought out the inner devil in Maya?

We are what we choose to be. If u have judgements about Saanjh Vandana and co. being the way they are, it implies u acknowledge the fact that they chose to be this way. Why such special treatment for Maya then. She too chose to kill, chose to torture, and chose to deceive, chose to not cure herself. If u can't accept that, then u can't point fingers at Saanjh or Vandana or Arjun, imo.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Aekiel, it's medication and therapy which might help, even though there's no surety. But the first step, is always, acceptance.
Pedophilia is a form of paraphilia, and no matter how much gross it is, we must understand it beyond the sicko's will and it is a compulsion. (I, in no way am justifying it, I'm just telling how it works)
Therapy teaches them on how not to act on the urges. The pedophile has to know and accept first, though, that the or she is inhumanely disgusting. And it's socially as well as morally unacceptable.
Redemption is secondary in this case. But punishment, a constant, and according to the degree of the wrong doings.

Besides, I think Shruti is comparing both saanjh and Maya's timeline side by side. Almost parallel. So the ever that transpired later on, are nullified. It's just the pre wedding, wedding and newly wedded phase she's comparing and analysing. I'm not supporting Maya or saanjh. I condemn both of em. I don't like either of em. They're equally repulsive.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Also, even Maya was shown to have severe anxiety in S1. Now she's a perfectly fine mentally healthy person?
This show is absolutely behuda.
Not at all consistent and f**ks the medical aspects, legal aspects and all the other aspects related to it. It f**ks everything.
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Posted: 7 years ago
@aekiel coming to your question on paedhophile and perverts you never know what happened with them, but they did crime and should be punished for their crimes. And if such a person has crossed my path and punishment is given, I dont go again in their front and declare after your death, my life will start with arrogance.
Yes they did a crime, it is punished by judiciary and I have got justice. I wont go for revenge which Saanjh had done in going and declaring her so called marriage to a person who you know is bad and mad.
I would as much as possible will stay away from that person and will never try to cross their path unnecessary, the way Jhanvi did giving supari to the jailor.

I dont want them in my life and for that matter I dont go again and again instigate them, the way Arjun Sharma kissed Saanjh in front of Maya.

Most importantly I try to give dignity of being a human to them. Because that is what differentiates me and a criminal. And who knows sometimes just being human you end up transforming a person.


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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@fernandes Maya has not accepted to Maurtius Pandit death and the murder of Vikram. When she spoke to Arjun the day he wanted to murder her, he accepted everything else. Ashwin, Jhanvi, Vandana, what she did with Ayan, Samay anyways Arjun saw but she didnt accept these 2 murders. There is something abt these 2 murders why it is hidden. Because adding 2 more murders to the list doesnt make any difference for Maya.

Coming to burning Rajiv, it was her punishment for Rajiv for using her vulnerability. When he had power he burned her, when she had power she burned him. They were more or less equal partners in crime or whatever. Dont keep Rajiv an innocent victim.

By the way guys I remember someone telling when Maya fell her blood fell only on one of 3 pebbles. I checked that episode, yes Maya keeps the hisab of her crimes taking pebbles and when she falls there are 3 pebbles in line, but blood fall only on one. I still dont know what to make out of it, though some guesses are there.
For me her biggest crime would be the moral responsibility in the death of Prem and second trapping Ayan. But still unable to connect that 1 pebble.

How can you ignore her sinister design in Mansi's death -the only one she admitted in an open court hearing?!
A girl was lured to death -just what you expect a typical psycho would do to her victim!
Priest's death was a mystery with a circumstantial evidence of Maya's missing ear-ring found near by place of incident- I mean, in temple premises! Maya is a suspect just like Jailor's case! The difference is, in Jailor's case we saw it, but police has no clue! In priest's case, no one saw it, but something connected Maya's ear. . .sorry her hand in it, probably! She had a motive to kill him as she was clearly displeased with his advice to Arjun!
Rajiv's case, it was just back-stabbing after he gave her shares in exchange of what she 'agreed' to trade-off! It was a deal! So, no question of taking revenge on him!
He saved her while she lit the match-stick! It was his proof of standing with her!
But she didn't! It was her betrayal! She did not murder a person but murdered the trust!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: lumos_31


We are what we choose to be. If u have judgements about Saanjh Vandana and co. being the way they are, it implies u acknowledge the fact that they chose to be this way. Why such special treatment for Maya then. She too chose to kill, chose to torture, and chose to deceive, chose to not cure herself. If u can't accept that, then u can't point fingers at Saanjh or Vandana or Arjun, imo.


Lumos, shruthi is comparing the timelines side by side. The five year leap is yet to come. Only then her analysis plus comparison will be valid with what you said about assurance.
Now, it sure asf was Maya's choice to kill. She chose not to cure herself. But wasn't it too late already? And the way that the events took place, it sure was her fault. Shruthi never denied that. And if you look closely at what shruthi says in her thread, you'd know that she condemns Maya for her doings. She gets frustrated at Maya for choosing to be what she's become. But it stands undeniable that there had been a lot of catalysts. Not responsible, but people who acted as a catalyst. It's the smallest of small decisions which shape the future in a most haphazard yet mysterious ways. Even a tiny deviation from an action can lead to a whole new reaction.
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Posted: 7 years ago
Although murdering someone is a crime still I was okay with it when Maya murdered Ashwin because Ashwin was the one who abused Maya when she was a child and he was trying to kill Arjun...Maya killed him for 2 reasons in my opinion...One coz he could have told the world about Maya's truth which meant that there a chance that Arjun could have left her and second he tried to kill Arjun.
But what followed after that due to Maya's obsession was heinous to say the least

Maya separated Arjun from his family...Yes Vandana was judgmental but what about Ayaan and others...They were supportive of her...Vandana and Ayaan went to her house with gifts which she threw out of the window pretending that Arjun was the one who threw them.


Faked her miscarriage so that Arjun could severe ties with Saanjh which he did and then put Samay in her life even after knowing that he was crazy...Saanjh danced with Arjun in holy party and he loved her since childhood...So, instead of trying to take other steps against this all Maya could think of was planting a psycho in Saanjh's life and destroy her life. 😕

She even tried to make Jhanvi go crazy and wanted to put Ashwin's murder's blame on Jhanvi...Yes Jhanvi was never a great mom but does this mean that Maya had the right to put the blame and make her go crazy...Jhanvi was supposed to oblige and go to the mental asylum 😕

When Jhanvi tried to inform Arjun about this...Maya threw her out of the window and tried to murder her so that Arjun couldn't know about all this.

She separated a happy family and lived with Arjun for 3 years..she made it look like Arjun was a wife beater, she installed cameras everywhere , she didn't leave Arjun for a sec...She emotionally blackmailed him by faking suicide attempts, she suffocated him to the point that he wanted to leave her.

Even after all this she couldn't keep Arjun with her coz of her obsession

After the 3 year leap

Then she implicated Ayaan in a false attempt to rape case and destroyed his life, his career , him image in the society...Some will say that what was the need to involve in a tussle...Yes agree he should have called police though his bro was tied up and locked in a room still he should have waited for the police but did he deserve all this only coz he wanted to free his bro and got involved in a tussle with Maya for the keys.

Maya trapped him coz Arjun had said that Ayaan is his jaan and Maya couldn't stand this fact and that is why to keep Arjun with her , she planned this entire thing to trap Ayaan and destroyed his life

Then Maya did not stop here...Vandana and Saanjh went to her so that they could retrieve proof of Ayaan's innocence

Maya literally tortured Vandana and here also many said that it was Vandana's and Saanjh's fault that they entered her house.

In this process Prem got killed and Maya kept working with Samay who himself was a psycho

AGAIN after another leap

Ayaan tried to prove to his bro that Maya was dangerous even for the baby, he wanted justice for himself , he was a victim who's life got destroyed...Still people wanted him to wait coz of the baby...Maya herself told him that she will not let anyone come between her and Arjun not even the baby...Ayaan made it very clear that he will never harm the baby...Still wanted him to be careful while were okay with the fact that Maya brutally tried to murder Ayaan and then drove off in high speed , doing all this when she was pregnant.

This murder attempt was brutal and heinous to say the least

Then she murdered Vandana as well blaming her for her baby's death

AGAIN ANOTHER LEAP

She trapped Arjun i her murder case...She had planned this since the beginning...a plan to trap and murder Arjun if ever he tried to leave her. In this plan she murdered another innocent girl who herself was facing metal problems...People sympathise with Maya but what about that girl who got murdered by Maya so that she could trap Arjun 😕

AGAIN AFTER YET ANOTHER LEAP

She tried to murder Saanjh nth number of times, kidnapped Arjun, blackmailed them, murdered the jailor (although she had it coming )

In this show all those who have committed crimes have paid the price for their deeds..even those who haven't done anything have suffered at Maya's hands

Ashwin - Got killed

Samay - Got killed

Jailor - Got killed

Vandana (If people think that she was judgemetal) - For being judgemental she got the punishment of being murdered brutally...Isn't this too harsh punishment 😕

Jhanvi (For not being a good mom) - Her own daughter tried to kill her not once but twice , she got paralysed

For bribing Jailor to kill her daughter who was hell bent on murdering others - i am sure Jhanvi is going to die

Saanjh - Coz she danced with Arjun in holi party and loved her since childhood, for interfering in a married couple's life - She got a pyscho planted in her life by Maya, her dad got killed , her bestie left her for 3 years, and she has been kidnapped and have faced nth number of murder attempts on her life...isn't this too harsh punishment 😕

Ayaan - For getting involved in a tussle and for trying to seek justice for himself he was jailed and humiliated for a crime he never committed, was brutally hit by a car a number of times and then lost his mom as well ...isn't this too harsh punishment 😕 Did he really deserve it ?

I wonder will Maya ever pay the price for her deeds...or she will continue to murder people left right and center

I am sure she will be on a revenge spree soon

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Posted: 7 years ago
I used to empathize with Maya in season 1..I was ok with the fact that she murdered Ashwin.
I detested Vandana for not giving Maya a chance and for not using some other way to deal with the situation.

I loved the fact that Arjun, Ayaan and even Mathurs were ready to accept Maya...I even remember that Ayaan got slapped by Vandana when he supported Maya and wanted to leave the house for Maya and Arjun's sake

but then everything went down hill from there when Maya started crossing all limits for her obsession.

She literally destroyed lives

I completely agree that Arjun , Saanjh , Vandana have committed mistakes...but in my opinion they have paid a bigger price for them than they deserve.

She murdered Vandana in cold blood and took away a mother from her sons

Of all the things I detest Maya the most for destroying Ayaan's life completely and for killing that girl Mansi apart from murdering Vandana

I also agree with the fact that Arjun shouldn't have gone to instigate Maya...No one in their right minds would go and instigate a woman like Maya

Alas what can one expect from a man like Arjun who left his family and didn't even bother to hear his brother's side of the story and blindly trusted Maya despite knowing her so well...What can one expect from a man like Arjun who left Maya stating the reason that she brought Samay between them.

I didn't think Arjun was right for instigating Maya and same way I don't think Maya has any right to take lives in name of love

But this doesn't mean that I will pin point even the slightest of mistakes of other characters and scrutinize their small mistakes, condemn them and want them to get punished.

While conveniently ignore Maya's full fledged crimes and blame others for it instead




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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: HadhSeZyada


Lumos, shruthi is comparing the timelines side by side. The five year leap is yet to come. Only then her analysis plus comparison will be valid with what you said about assurance.
Now, it sure asf was Maya's choice to kill. She chose not to cure herself. But wasn't it too late already? And the way that the events took place, it sure was her fault. Shruthi never denied that. And if you look closely at what shruthi says in her thread, you'd know that she condemns Maya for her doings. She gets frustrated at Maya for choosing to be what she's become. But it stands undeniable that there had been a lot of catalysts. Not responsible, but people who acted as a catalyst. It's the smallest of small decisions which shape the future in a most haphazard yet mysterious ways. Even a tiny deviation from an action can lead to a whole new reaction.



I wasnt talking about this 5 yrs leap. I was talking about the 3 yrs leap that took place post ArYa marriage.

I don't follow these threads, just happened to read this particular update and yes, appreciate that u clarified. But I can't accept that Vandana n Saanjh and Arjun were catalysts to her behaviour. They only reacted to what Maya did to them. These ppl, are foolish and emotionally driven, agreed but they didn't go with the intention of challenging Maya's inner devils and aggravating her condition. It was maya and only Maya who saw all these things as aggravation, who reacted wrongly to them.

Maya planted Samay in Saanjh's life, planned the whole fake death things against Arjun even before they got married, so u see...Maya had made arrangements in case Arjun leaves her even before she united with Arjun. For all these things if Maya can be excused by saying that this is her nature, she's bad and mad...then I don't think we can really judge Vandana and Saanjh and say they went to Maya and made her do all this.

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