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Posted: 8 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

According to Maya she is not obsessive but Samay is obsessive! And his obsessive love(or lust) is repulsive to many! Maya's love is also becoming repulsive because it is harming many others!
She suffering due to some childhood related problems etc may possibly make a case to experts in the field of psychology but not to common persons who wish to live peacefully!

Maya has to behave sensibly otherwise she should get isolated from the rest!


Patients like will never accept that they need treatment or that their love i not love but obsession. Like I have said before and again and again that Maya is at a point where she isn't able to differ between what's right and what's wrong. That is why she's been doing all that.

Just do not highlight a sentence of my post and ignore the rest. What is wrong for us normal people, the same is right for Maya because that is making Arjun stay with her close to her by her side.

And what exactly do you mean by "make a case for experts in field of psychology"? Excuse me but that is quite insensitive of you for implying that a psychologically ill person is just a case study! I lost my best friend, my childhood best friend with whom I had spent 20 years of my life due to such psychological disorders. Just because "normal" people want to live peacefully should the abandon the ones they used to care about, love just because they are not psychologically stable and are not in their sane mind?

I do not know about anyone else but I did not leave my best friend till suicide took her away from me and if such a situation arises in future i will do the same.

@purple-bold Have you seen "Saubhagyavati Bhav?" movie "Pyaar Tune Kya Kiya" the characters Viraj and Ria suffered from similar psychological disorders like Maya. NOW DO YOU EXPECT A PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE PERSON TO BEHAVE SENSIBLY???

MAYA IS ILL, SHE IS NOT IN HER RIGHT MIND TO THINK AND ACT SENSIBLY!!

I am sorry but you expecting too much from an ill person.

And she shouldn't be left alone or isolated. People like her need tender love and care along with the sense of security. And just for the record she doesn't need anyone else except Arjun for whom she is doing all the stuff be it wrong or right or even a crime.
Posted: 8 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: priyankazzz


This is also a story where others are suffering or being killed because of Maya's psychological disorder or her obsession or whatever so called reason. Why did not she go for treatment knowing about her illness? Why is she roaming around freely to destroy others life? If someone tries to find her past or Arjun gives more importance to someone other than her, she comes up with a plan and make them look bad in front of everyone. If someone has proofs of her crimes, she wants the proofs to be destroyed even if that action costs a life.

Someone who does crimes/evil actions is the villain, so Maya is definitely the villain of this show.


And why exactly the others are suffering?

Answer : Because of Maya's illness, her beyhad-ness. Again. MAYA. So yes Beyhad is all about Maya and how she deals with each and every person she gets involved with.

@blue-italic whatever so called reason?!! I think you haven't dealt with a person like Maya in real life that's why you aren't able to understand the magnitude of the whole problem. Whatever May ais doing is not only hurting others but it is also damaging her bit by bit.

@purple-bold A psychologically ill patient especially one like Maya won't take action for their treatment themselves. THEY NEED BLOODY SUPPORT!! They need family and friends.

@underlined Roaming freely? Huh?! Really? She needs help, she needed help but no one did. She doesn't need to be imprisoned or something. For her crimes, yes but for her illness, no.

@red And still you need to question that why Maya is behaving so?
Arjun is not just her love or her husband, he is her life. Maya's world revolves around Arjun and Arjun only. He is her sun. And whatever, whosoever in this effing world would try to take Arjun away from her one way or the other Maya won't let him.

@pink-bold OF COURSE SHE WILL! Whatever she does is for the sake of keeping Arjun with her, by her side. Let's take example of "normal" people whom should live peacefully while others suffering from serious illness can rot in some prison with being treated before.

Accidental murders...a person who commits a murder accidentally will of course try to erase the proofs so that he won't be accused of or jailed. That's how a normal person would react and you expect a psychologically ill person to turn herself in? If Maya was to do that then why in the world would she commit such crimes for at first place. For fun? NO. For Arjun. When she can kill for Arjun without any regret why would she turn herself in? Because according to her she did nothing wrong, just acted to stay safe and make sure Arjun is with her.

@orange-bold-underline No. Maya is not a villain. She is a character with the darker shades of grey. For Maya to be villain it would mean that Saanjh is the heroine😆 which my dear for your kind information, IS NOT.

What is Beyhad in Saanjh or Arjun? >> NOTHING.
Is there something Beyhad about Vandana or Ayaan or some other character >> NO. NAH. NOPE.

Maya has the essence of Beyhad-ness. Maya is Beyhad and Beyhad is ALL ABOUT Maya.

BTW, have you seen a Zee TV show titles as "Raavan". It's based on Raavan's life who apparently is also a villain. Now should I argue that hey Raavan is the villain of Ramayana why should the show be title "Raavan"? When the main idea of the show is Raavan's life then why in the world would someone name it "Ram" or any other title?

Maya is the protagonist of the show titled as "Beyhad". It is a story about a girl suffering from psychological disorders and is a grey character (neither black nor white). She in her romantic love story plays games, manipulates her boyfriend/husband so that he won't leave her like others did.

And just so that you won't twist my words further >> SAANJH ISN'T A VILLAIN EITHER.
Beyhad doesn't have a villain. It has the most relate-able and realistic characters where Maya is the main protagonist, Arjun being the male lead and Saanjh is "parallel female lead". Even Arjun is of second importance, Maya tops the list. She is the main character who is not a villain.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: dmegha


Patients like will never accept that they need treatment or that their love i not love but obsession. Like I have said before and again and again that Maya is at a point where she isn't able to differ between what's right and what's wrong. That is why she's been doing all that.

Just do not highlight a sentence of my post and ignore the rest. What is wrong for us normal people, the same is right for Maya because that is making Arjun stay with her close to her by her side.

And what exactly do you mean by "make a case for experts in field of psychology"? Excuse me but that is quite insensitive of you for implying that a psychologically ill person is just a case study! I lost my best friend, my childhood best friend with whom I had spent 20 years of my life due to such psychological disorders. Just because "normal" people want to live peacefully should the abandon the ones they used to care about, love just because they are not psychologically stable and are not in their sane mind?

I do not know about anyone else but I did not leave my best friend till suicide took her away from me and if such a situation arises in future i will do the same.

@purple-bold Have you seen "Saubhagyavati Bhav?" movie "Pyaar Tune Kya Kiya" the characters Viraj and Ria suffered from similar psychological disorders like Maya. NOW DO YOU EXPECT A PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE PERSON TO BEHAVE SENSIBLY???

MAYA IS ILL, SHE IS NOT IN HER RIGHT MIND TO THINK AND ACT SENSIBLY!!

I am sorry but you expecting too much from an ill person.

And she shouldn't be left alone or isolated. People like her need tender love and care along with the sense of security. And just for the record she doesn't need anyone else except Arjun for whom she is doing all the stuff be it wrong or right or even a crime.


I don't know about what psychological disorder or illness you are saying Maya has, but your statement in bold is totally wrong.
If she could not differentiate between right and wrong, she would not be afraid of Arjun finding out her wrong deeds.
So she definitely knows what's wrong and what's right.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#34
@dmegha, well explained. That's the problem with society, if someone is slightly different from a group of people, he/she will be isolated. No one try to understand others pain.
Just to clarify to everyone, I am not justifying Maya's criminal activities but the condition she is in right now is due to her worse life experiences. She did not wish for a life like this.
Posted: 8 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: priyankazzz


I don't know about what psychological disorder or illness you are saying Maya has, but your statement in bold is totally wrong.
If she could not differentiate between right and wrong, she would not be afraid of Arjun finding out her wrong deeds.
So she definitely knows what's wrong and what's right.


Like seriously?😆 Again?😆 I do not have that much energy to dealt with this!
Arre yaar why won't she be afraid of her crimes coming in front of Arjun? What would be the result if such thing happened?

Answer is that ARJUN WILL LEAVE HER THE VERY NEXT INSTANCE.

And can Maya afford that? A BIG FAT NO.

And what's this reason that if Maya can't differ between right and wrong so she shouldn't be afraid of Arjun finding about whatever she did. Excuse me I do not want to sound like I am being rude or something but actually it is quite laughable.😆

I am doing this one last time and I won't do that again so try and understand how Maya's judgement of right and wrong is all related to Arjun;

What is that she says whenever she converses with Jhanvi about her being doing everything for Arjun? >> Arjun won't understand that she did everything for him. That it was the right thing to do at that time.

Maya wants Arjun to be hers forever, never leave her and just to make sure that it stays like that Maya can do anything. Now that anything, we the so called normal person can differentiate if that "anything" is right or wrong but MAYA CANNOT.

To her whatever she does in order to keep Arjun that is always right. But she knows that Arjun won't understand that she did it for him, that he will judge her and call her right, a wrong.

Now I am hell tired of repeating the same thing again and again. So please do not quote my posts further if you aren't able to understand what I am trying to say.

I have more important things to do than to try and explain simple things to people who love to complicate things just for the sake of fun and absolutely senseless arguments. This is my last post at this thread.

Thank you very much.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#36
^^ If I remember correctly, you were the one who first qouted my post 😊
Simple thing is You call obsessive love as mental illness, while I don't. So let's end this here.
Posted: 8 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: priyankazzz

^^ If I remember correctly, you were the one who first qouted my post 😊

Simple thing is You call obsessive love as mental illness, while I don't. So let's end this here.


Me breaking my rule just for this one.

If obsessive love isn't an illness then what is it exactly?

Not only me but even google thinks that >> Obsessive love and jealousy that is delusional is a symptom of mental-health problems and is a symptom that occurs in about 0.1% of adults.

If you do not believe me then you can google yourself. Now google won't lie, will it?

😆🤣

And about me quoting your post, oh my dear friend I feel nothing but absolute remorse for committing such a dire mistake. Won't repeat it ever again.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#38
Don't think I am being harsh.. But could not stop laughing at one more 'google psychologist' here.. 😆
Edited by priyankazzz - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: priyankazzz

Don't think I am being harsh.. But could not stop laughing at one more 'google psychologist' here.. 😆


And there you go assuming things again. Are you sure I am not a psychologist in real life?🥱
I could mail you some books if you'll pay for them. I thought you wouldn't want to read elaborated things because that are somehow difficult to understand so I referred to you a one sentence google explanation.

And just for your information my mother, my aunt, my cousin and my brother in law, they are psychiatrists who helped me help my childhood friend that I have mentioned before. So I pretty much know how these things work. And that's why I know how such things work.

I only suggested you a google translation because I know that you won't understand a full fledged explanation and that it will be hell boring for you. So do not refer to me as a "google psychologist" that shows that how ignorant you are instead of representing me as the one with less facts.

I have lost someone dear to me because of such disorders and may be that is why I actually understand and you do not.

What you think is laughable and senseless and absolutely irrational is actually a very sensitive topic.

And yes you are not being harsh...I think the proper term is "Insensitive"

Edited by dmegha - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: dmegha


And there you go assuming things again. Are you sure I am not a psychologist in real life?🥱
I could mail you some books if you'll pay for them. I thought you wouldn't want to read elaborated things because that are somehow difficult to understand so I referred to you a one sentence google explanation.

And just for your information my mother, my aunt, my cousin and my brother in law, they are psychiatrists who helped me help my childhood friend that I have mentioned before. So I pretty much know how these things work. And that's why I know how such things work.

I only suggested you a google translation because I know that you won't understand a full fledged explanation and that it will be hell boring for you. So do not refer to me as a "google psychologist" that shows that how ignorant you are instead of representing me as the one with less facts.

I have lost someone dear to me because of such disorders and may be that is why I actually understand and you do not.

What you think is laughable and senseless and absolutely irrational is actually a very sensitive topic.

And yes you are not being harsh...I think the proper term is "Insensitive"


Sorry, if I wrongly analysed you that you were not a psychologist. But seeing your previous posts and the way you opinionate others and try to prove your point is correct, and the way you call others insensitive, I am confident that you are not.

Even I have lost a loved one to suicide. She was manipulated by a monster. But he still says he is not responsible for her death, ok, alright we believe him because it was our fault, many people told us he was different from normal people and would not talk to anyone properly, but she found that as something unique in him and fell into the trap. Shall I claim that he too has mental illness. Who is mentally ill here, my loved one or him or both.
While I was in school, my friend committed suicide just because her other friend said 'she is not her best friend' and the next day she is no more. I know one more person who is suffering with depression and tried to commit suicide, he thinks he is responsible for the death of his family(father, mother and younger brother) because of his rash driving. Just like you, there are many people in this forum, who atleast once in their life would have encountered a loss of a known/loved one to suicide due to their mental disorders, so you can't call someone insensitive just based on how they react to a 'fictional' show character.

Not many from my family background are psychologists, but my uncle is a psychologist, for your information I asked him about this 'Maya' character and you know what, he laughed and said, "that character itself is baseless" 😊

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