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Posted: 8 years ago

#61

Originally posted by: ---Khushi---

First n foremost, I accept your standing ovation, though it wasn't too tough to search that...just had to go to your "my post" n find the CN forum posts...was a matter of 2-3 mins...another 2-3 mins of copy pasting...😃

Secondly, let's not divert from the topic of discussion here...I didn't know that views about rape of women, that too such strongly opinionated ones, differed from show to show & from women to women...

N your saying that Maya is not a human, does not change the fact that she is one...yes, she is an extremely evil human who deserves to rot in jail...but a woman she is...

I still don't understand how Samay doing the "worst" with her (suggestive of rape) is the acceptable punishment for Maya here...all past & current comments on this topic sound very shallow & baseless then...

When Ayan wanted to free his brother from a woman who had clearly kidnapped him, it was obvious that there were no salicious motives on Ayans part...yet you n a few others insisted that since Ayan was dealing with a woman, he had no right to manhandle her to retrieve the keys...I didn't see anything wrong in Ayan trying to retrieve the keys anyways...

A criminal is a criminal...I don't see any reason to be sexist in this regard...nor do I see any reason by which rape can be justified for certain type of "inhuman" women, while it's a strict no-no for all others...rape is a strict no for any person, male or female, criminal or not...period.

Anyways, peace out & I rest my case.

In that argument, I remember, you were stuck at one point, where you repeatedly refused to answer the point of "Why Ayan Went for Tearing Maya's Clothes When He Had Alternatives". It was here that our argument started; and I'd argued that a man needs to be mindful of how he's behaving with a woman since women are victims of centuries-old discrimination and biased social lenses.

So yes, I stick to my points here. Women need special treatment in certain cases since the scales are not yet equal in every field for both the sexes.

But here we're dealing with Maya. Somebody who cannot be viewed or judged from the parameters of a normal, sane member of society. She's an oddity; a danger to humanity. So rules for normal humans don't apply in her case.

And btw, I NEVER said that I WANT Samay to rape her. Just said that I wouldn't feel anything if he did.

P.S. Nope, you had to go several pages back in the 'My Posts' section, follow the whole conversation from start to finish, identify posts relevant to this thread,quote every single post of mine and paste them in a Word Document where you had to compile all the posts, and then make the final copy-paste here in the comment section. That takes a LOT of hard-work and dedication. 😃

Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago

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Lucifer

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Posted: 8 years ago

#62

You know as I read all these posts either saying "No sympathy for Maya" "Maya brought it upon itself " or "Maya does not deserve this " "Samay has no right to do this"

All I wanna say is DO YOU GUYS REALLY BELEIVE THAT MAYA IS HELPLESS??!!!

Cmon people, this is Maya we are talking about.
Maya always has a Plan A, Plan B, Plan C ... Plan Z. And if even Plan Z fails to work then she uses
Plan Arjun gadha hai, Plan Saanjh brainlessness hai, Plan Samay mera kutta hai.
One of these plans often work out in her favour. And this time is no different

Remember that everytime Maya goes like I am lonely, helpless abhla naari matlab Madam koi Osama Ben Laden wala plan soch ke baithi hai.

So if you have sympathy or you feel like telling the world you have zero sympathy, you are just wasting your time. Coz by now Maya would have already started implementing her plan of total annihilation.

But what I dont get is why does CVs show Maya to be an evil genius at one point and then show her having a pistol but taking a cricket bat to attack Samay?? RIP Logic.
I had quit the show after Prem's death, later saw the news that Saanjh is going to expose Samay and Maya, watched the last 3 episodes, and was like "Never Again watching this thing"
This show is on repetitive mode, nothing new happens, character development is dead, no good plot,
On top of that I can't make myself to come in support of any of these characters be it Saanjh or Maya,
And since Prem's death I have no hope of a good track from this show.
I wonder what CVs are planning to do with this thing?

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Posted: 8 years ago

#63

Originally posted by: manya_roy
You know as I read all these posts either saying "No sympathy for Maya" "Maya brought it upon itself " or "Maya does not deserve this " "Samay has no right to do this"

All I wanna say is DO YOU GUYS REALLY BELEIVE THAT MAYA IS HELPLESS??!!!

Cmon people, this is Maya we are talking about.
Maya always has a Plan A, Plan B, Plan C ... Plan Z. And if even Plan Z fails to work then she uses
Plan Arjun gadha hai, Plan Saanjh brainlessness hai, Plan Samay mera kutta hai.
One of these plans often work out in her favour. And this time is no different

Remember that everytime Maya goes like I am lonely, helpless abhla naari matlab Madam koi Osama Ben Laden wala plan soch ke baithi hai.

So if you have sympathy or you feel like telling the world you have zero sympathy, you are just wasting your time. Coz by now Maya would have already started implementing her plan of total annihilation.

But what I dont get is why does CVs show Maya to be an evil genius at one point and then show her having a pistol but taking a cricket bat to attack Samay?? RIP Logic.
I had quit the show after Prem's death, later saw the news that Saanjh is going to expose Samay and Maya, watched the last 3 episodes, and was like "Never Again watching this thing"
This show is on repetitive mode, nothing new happens, character development is dead, no good plot,
On top of that I can't make myself to come in support of any of these characters be it Saanjh or Maya,
And since Prem's death I have no hope of a good track from this show.
I wonder what CVs are planning to do with this thing?

@bold: I know right, this feels fishy.

I think that her being abla nari is a facade. There is definitely a bigger picture here. About taking a bat to a guns' fight, I tell ya, that was because she wanted to know what's been going in Samay's head. She put on mask of vulnerability for Samay. And that dumbo showed her every proof he's got against her. Now it is very easy for her to cover her tracks.

Round and round we go. I just want this story to speed up and move forward.

Edited by samaira_samy - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: samaira_samy

@bold: I know right, this feels fishy.


I think that her being abla nari is a facade. There is definitely a bigger picture here. About taking a bat to a guns' fight, I tell ya, that was because she wanted to know what's been going in Samay's head. She put on mask of vulnerability for Samay. And that dumbo showed her every proof he's got against her. Now it is very easy for to cover her tracks.

Maybe your right. It can happen, considering Maya has such an amazing brain that from Raavan to Einstein everyone bows down to her. But then I still don't get the pendrive thing and now this bat incident has come up.

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Aayushi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#65

Originally posted by: manya_roy

Maybe your right. It can happen, considering Maya has such an amazing brain that from Raavan to Einstein everyone bows down to her. But then I still don't get the pendrive thing and now this bat incident has come up.

Pen drive thing was definitely a blooper. I didn't buy Maya's justification one bit that she stores evidences of her crimes because she is hoping for someone to redeem her. That makes no sense. I mean the woman is getting blackmailed by this creep on the same regards. Why would she save evidences?

What's going on?🤔

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Khushi_love

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Posted: 8 years ago

#66

Word document for copy pasting IF posts????😲

Just need to open another page of IF on my phone 😆

Anyways, just because it might take some people ages to accomplish this, doesn't necessarily mean it takes everyone that much time...😃...didn't go thru all posts anyway...just random...there were a lot more...😃

I don't understand what this argument achieves, anyway..if it makes people feel good, ok...I took ages ...😆

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441597

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Posted: 8 years ago

#67

^^Okay. You didn't take ages. Ab khush? 🤣

Btw, what about going back so many pages on 'My Posts', identifying those posts of mine exactly relvant to this discussion etc.? That's sure to take up a fair bit of time since the CN posts are on the 5th or 6th page of My Posts. 😛 Can't be '2-3' mins surely.

Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago

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Khushi_love

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Posted: 8 years ago

#68

Looks like I've struck someone's wrong chords here...😳 (there's something called random trial n error with a slight sense of judgement regarding timeline...one needn't go thru the beginning few pages at all, since it's been a while😃)

I see no point in continuing this senseless argument...au revoir to all till we meet on another thread...😆

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441597

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Posted: 8 years ago

#69

No wrong chords. I feel that maybe I had been a bit too harsh to you in that debate on feminism.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz
Khushi, I'm sorry to say that your idea of feminism is extremely basic, and if I may say so, naive.

"Women are no longer considered inferior in the 21st century"--- An incredibly juvenile statement. Forget feminism, your ideas on patriarchy are also quite shallow and childish.

India specifically, has incredibly poor international ranking when it comes to gender equality, as do Arab and African countries. A woman is raped every 10 minutes in India, the society is patriarchal to boot, and you're saying "Women are no longer considered inferior in 21st century"? 😲

Even so-called 'developed' countries have patriarchal social structures. Patriarchy is a very layered thing; only screaming "women are inferior" is not patriarchy. Patriarchy can be very subtle. A lot of patriarchy exists in the US as well; it's a hot topic for debate in everyday events.

First try to understand the concept of 'inequality in power dynamics', and then maybe we'll have a debate on feminism.

I repeat what I said in a previous post:

"When two groups have a history of antagonistic behaviour towards each other and one group is guilty of having oppressed the other unilaterally in the past, then people of these two groups cannot be treated equally in negative aspects".

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

I agree completely. If Maya had torn off Ayan's pant, then it would've come under the ambit of sexual attack (regardless of the intention, mind you).

But STILL, it would not be as big a deal as the reverse. That's because, again, a 'woman's sexual chastity' is a much bigger deal for the society.

Bold and Underlined: It's easy to opine that in a virtual forum. But in reality, it'll take decades of social evolution for people to actually advance up to the point where women's sexuality and bodies are not such touchy subjects for society; where women are not called 's**ts' and 'wh**es; at the slightest suspicion of impropriety, and most importantly, where women are treated as 'human beings' and not objects.

Till then, we'll have to be mindful of ground realities. Deep-rooted social conventions take eons to be erased and phased out; we'll have to give them that much of time.

As for the example of the coal miner, you didn't understand the point of the allegory. I wasn't pointing to any violence there; rather, I was commenting on the absurdity of practicing an 'equality' which would be completely unfair to a particular section of the society. Some people are not allowed to be 'equal' to others in the society, so we have to be lenient towards the underprivileged sections. We cannot demand 'equality' in cases where one section has a clear disadvantage over the other. THAT was the point.

I meant absolutely no offence to you, Khushi, when I had spoken to you in such harsh, dismissive tones. It was all a part of the debate. Don't take it otherwise 😃

Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago

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Kaushitaki

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Well I have the following things to say.

Samay as a character was and will remain extremely pukeworthy to me. Whatever he has been doing with women are nothing worth forgiving. But then I would like to remind we don't know what maya had done to him in return. Whatever, samay had always sexually eyed maya. Samay has unnecessarily destroyed saanjh's life. And now samay is forcing maya. Everything only makes me hate him more .

BUT

We gotta remember that Maya is a murderer, a framer, a lier, a bullshit. So, if she's giving into samay for anything at all, mind that she had played much bigger games in the past. And everytime escaped scot free just as we have seen. There's many more to that list which we don't even know. I myself believe samay could never touch her, why, oh wait he himself had said that until she asked him to, to frame ayaan.And I believe too that tonight even he won't do that. Remember Rajeev was maya's shikaar, as per shipra, maya wasn't rajeev's.

So however helpless maya is now and all, she isn't, wasn't and will never be. She can murder people at eye's blinks. I wonder what's stopping her now. Maybe that she's planted samay and all, and his murder would bring her out. But nevertheless, I believe something like this will soon happen.

Samay's "mujhe buraa bunne me majboor mat karo " is Maya's exact dialogue. Maya was sympathised then too by many. But remember, you have to pay back for your deeds. She has forever made samay do the worse to others, why now make a hullabaloo when samay is doing the worse to her?

Anyways, mind my words. Samay would do nothing to her tonight.

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