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Posted: 8 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


It was a kind of faux-victory for her. If Shaurya wasn't dead or in jail, then punishment evaded him. Logically speaking.


Ya agree
But still Durga won so many times and exposed Shaurya in the end and sakshi also commited suicide I guess.
One can say that it was not an absolute victory for her if Shaurya was alive but even Shaurya lost almost everything...so one can't say that Shaurya won in the end too. Durga punished all the conspirators , Sakshi killed herself , she got together with Dev in the end and exposed to the world all of Shaurya's crimes so she did win even if it wasn't an absolute win in the end...and this ending was much better than GG in my opinion where Amy had the last laugh.
Unlike GG where Amy emerged absolutely victorious in the end and escaped scot free.
Here only Maya has won so far and as u said it might be possible that makers do follow GG and keep that ending only but for me it would be frustrating to say the least.

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: Get-Lost


This was obvious since this season started. As a matter of fact, the way they have successfully kept the 'victim' Maya card into play all this long, it seems like people would celebrate if she escapes scott free.
Problem is Gone Girls' Amy was NOT/is NOT and will never be Maya. She was offensive but Maya is abhorrent. And it was a smartly written plot without any stupid loopholes, where you had to appreciate the writer's capability. In this loosely written, so-called Indian version of Gone girl, you detest Maya more and more as the episodes pass. The longer they stretch and turn this so-called 'dark thriller' into typical Indian daily soap, the more people hate Maya.
Anyways, I suggest that people should make peace with a possible Maya winning ending. Also with Samay no longer in the picture, I hope that the next season doesn't turn out to be a dud too.


I disagree. Gone Girl had plot contrivances which were borderline juvenile, and the loopholes were gaping wide to a surrealistic degree.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: krystal_watz


First, you have no right to call anyone 'stupid' for their opinion.

Secondly, your claims are baseless and ignorant. Samay had misleading monologues, that's a fact. Ayan too was revealed to have had no intentions of raping Maya. His sole aim was his brother, why would he want to rape Maya? It's good to use brains before saying anything.


Ok Noted I don't have brains.

But can you pls tell me when did they exactly show Ayaan's intentions clearly? What makes you say that they revealed Ayaan's intentions? He doesn't even admit his mistake/fault and still says "maine kuch nahi kiya" . How can you possibly give him a clean chit about his intentions on this matter?

Ayaan was drunk and subconsciously he most probably did have ill intentions otherwise he wouldn't have spoke all that rubbish.

We just got to wait and watch...

After having said this, this is my last reply to you. I don't wish to say anything further since I don't have brains.
I rest my case

Bye bye :)
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Posted: 8 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: sumz_d


Ok Noted I don't have brains.

But can you pls tell me when did they exactly show Ayaan's intentions clearly? What makes you say that they revealed Ayaan's intentions? He doesn't even admit his mistake/fault and still says "maine kuch nahi kiya" . How can you possibly give him a clean chit about his intentions on this matter?

Ayaan was drunk and subconsciously he most probably did have ill intentions otherwise he wouldn't have spoke all that rubbish.

We just got to wait and watch...

After having said this, this is my last reply to you. I don't wish to say anything further since I don't have brains.
I rest my case.

Bye bye :)


They showed us the whole flashback. They showed that Ayan was searching for the keys and that he fell on Maya only after she kicked him. They even showed Maya's monologues about her framing Ayan to get him out of the way. If that's not enough to clear his intentions, then I guess nothing would do for you.

Like it or not, Creatives have established that Ayan had no intention to rape. His 'subconscious' thoughts are purely your speculation with no basis in the show.

Thank you for your time.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: samaira_samy

I strictly condemn these forced fetishes. Nobody I repeat nobody deserves this.


But if you ask, do I have my sympathies for Maya? No, a big no, that would be. Why? Wait till the end of this phase. You'll know why.

I know Maya is booking Samay a ticket to jail. I wouldn't care either if he rots in jail for the rest of his life.

In all this madness, only sympathies I've got are for my eyes. That I have to watch a criminal tormenting another sexually, hoping that justice will prevail.

In no way, I am comparing any criminal to another. I am hoping that everybody pay their dues. That's it.



just dropped in on the forum to get a quick update and found this topic with interesting views. The one that caught my eye was this one so please don't think I am picking on you.

@RED found it very interesting you would bring it up. How do you term a woman who asks a man to do to her body all that she accuses the purported rapist would have done? She even had the audacity to apply Aayan's saliva on the wounds. It's of course not shown how she managed to get his saliva.

A woman is giving an open invitation to a man, exposing her body and asking him to inflict all that a man would have done during the rape. Then she blows a flying kiss to him as a thank you. I would call that inciting a man. Tomorrow if she cries rape why should we call that a deplorable act. She has been asking for it and leading the man all along.

I agree rape is the most repulsive and demeaning act one can resort to. But a woman who clearly invites them upon her does not need any sympathy or support.

For all we know all the utterances she claims Ayan made must also be a figment of her imagination. She is wicked, vile, cunning and a vindictive manipulator. all adjectives fall short when describing the character of Maya. Yes you may argue she is ill etc etc but even such ill persons are dangerous to the society and shold be locked up. In my opinion even Maya should rot in jail for the atrocities carried out by her.

In short the Heroine of this serial is the Vamp and Vixen of the serial. This is something new to Indian TV.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: agastya_muni



just dropped in on the forum to get a quick update and found this topic with interesting views. The one that caught my eye was this one so please don't think I am picking on you.

@RED found it very interesting you would bring it up. How do you term a woman who asks a man to do to her body all that she accuses the purported rapist would have done? She even had the audacity to apply Aayan's saliva on the wounds. It's of course not shown how she managed to get his saliva.

A woman is giving an open invitation to a man, exposing her body and asking him to inflict all that a man would have done during the rape. Then she blows a flying kiss to him as a thank you. I would call that inciting a man. Tomorrow if she cries rape why should we call that a deplorable act. She has been asking for it and leading the man all along.

I agree rape is the most repulsive and demeaning act one can resort to. But a woman who clearly invites them upon her does not need any sympathy or support.

For all we know all the utterances she claims Ayan made must also be a figment of her imagination. She is wicked, vile, cunning and a vindictive manipulator. all adjectives fall short when describing the character of Maya. Yes you may argue she is ill etc etc but even such ill persons are dangerous to the society and shold be locked up. In my opinion even Maya should rot in jail for the atrocities carried out by her.

In short the Heroine of this serial is the Vamp and Vixen of the serial. This is something new to Indian TV.


Well, everybody knows here how much I abhor Maya. But still, I am sticking to my words and I'll repeat them again, nobody deserves this. No, not even a woman like Maya or a man like Samay. These are my views, you don't have to agree.

Umm..., Didn't I mention that I've got no sympathies for Maya? It's OK I'll say that again too. I have no sympathies for either Maya or Samay. They both can rot in hell.

@BOLD: DISAGREE, I might not have my sympathies with such a woman,I will still call that a deplorable act. Without consent touching or having sexual intercourse with someone is a deplorable act. If someone put forth such an argument in the court, that won't work. Accused will still get jailed. That's not only morally wrong but also a culpable offence.
Edited by samaira_samy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: agastya_muni



just dropped in on the forum to get a quick update and found this topic with interesting views. The one that caught my eye was this one so please don't think I am picking on you.

@RED found it very interesting you would bring it up. How do you term a woman who asks a man to do to her body all that she accuses the purported rapist would have done? She even had the audacity to apply Aayan's saliva on the wounds. It's of course not shown how she managed to get his saliva.

A woman is giving an open invitation to a man, exposing her body and asking him to inflict all that a man would have done during the rape. Then she blows a flying kiss to him as a thank you. I would call that inciting a man. Tomorrow if she cries rape why should we call that a deplorable act. She has been asking for it and leading the man all along.

I agree rape is the most repulsive and demeaning act one can resort to. But a woman who clearly invites them upon her does not need any sympathy or support.

For all we know all the utterances she claims Ayan made must also be a figment of her imagination. She is wicked, vile, cunning and a vindictive manipulator. all adjectives fall short when describing the character of Maya. Yes you may argue she is ill etc etc but even such ill persons are dangerous to the society and shold be locked up. In my opinion even Maya should rot in jail for the atrocities carried out by her.

In short the Heroine of this serial is the Vamp and Vixen of the serial. This is something new to Indian TV.

@ bold...then according to you there can not be such thing called 'marital rape' because a wife who was inviting/asking/enjoying s** with her husband yesterday can be forced by her husband tomorrow without her consent , does not matter she want it or not and it can not be called 'Rape'...woww

PS: am not supporting Maya's crimes, yes she did crimes and she should be punished as per the punishment rules for a psychologically challenged person but that does not mean that Rape is ok in the form of punishment😲
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MissIamTheBoss

@ bold...then according to you there can not be such thing called 'marital rape' because a wife who was inviting/asking/enjoying s** with her husband yesterday can be forced by her husband tomorrow without her consent , does not matter she want it or not and it can not be called 'Rape'...woww

PS: am not supporting Maya's crimes, yes she did crimes and she should be punished as per the punishment rules for a psychologically challenged person but that does not mean that Rape is ok in the form of punishment😲


So Maya gave flying kiss 2-3 days back and 2-3 months back she asked him to bite her and not today. You mean to say she invited him a few days back and not today. So according to you he's a bit late he would have taken her the same day when she asked him to bite/gave a flying kiss, but why did he delay??? Wow logic.

what i dont understand is your comparison between a married couple and Samaya?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shalinii173


So Maya gave flying kiss 2-3 days back and 2-3 months back she asked him to bite her and not today. You mean to say she invited him a few days back and not today. So according to you he's a bit late he would have taken her the same day when she asked him to bite/gave a flying kiss, but why did he delay??? Wow logic.

what i dont understand is your comparison between a married couple and Samaya?

i just gave an example of married couple otherwise this goes to every man/woman be it married, gf-bf, friends, gays, lesbians, prostitutes or whatever...No means No...u can not force anyone, it does not matter the same person was willing before but now refusing for it.
and i already said Maya was wrong but that does not meant rape is justify in her case.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MissIamTheBoss

i just gave an example of married couple otherwise this goes to every man/woman be it married, gf-bf, friends, gays, lesbians, prostitutes or whatever...No means No...u can not force anyone, it does not matter the same person was willing before but now refusing for it.
and i already said Maya was wrong but that does not meant rape is justify in her case.


Yes You are right when a woman say NO then its a 'NO'. That reminds me a scene from movie named "PINK" where they say even if a prostitute say 'No' after getting the money then its a ''NO". But you know something she will pay the money back. Coz thats the deal. You agree with that?

But whats happening here? She used Samay. She took advantage of him even after knowing his intentions. Still, she dont have to pay him just confess her crime to Arjun. She has to decide. She got to choose. And here she decided to come to Samay. So its not a rape.

I never justify rape no matter what. But if Maya choses Samay over a confession. Then definitely its not a rape.


Edited by shalinii173 - 8 years ago

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