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Posted: 8 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: shalinii173


Yes You are right when a woman say NO then its a 'NO'. That reminds me a scene from movie named "PINK" where they say even if a prostitute say 'No' after getting the money then its a ''NO". But you know something she will pay the money back. Coz thats the deal. You agree with that?

But whats happening here? She used Samay. She took advantage of him even after knowing his intentions. Still, she dont have to pay him just confess her crime to Arjun. She has to decide. She got to choose. And here she decided to come to Samay. So its not a rape.

I never justify rape no matter what. But if Maya choses Samay over a confession. Then definitely its not a rape.


It may appear on the face of it, that Maya is submitting only under blackmail or pressure! But that is not the only choice she is having here! She can always take the help of her husband & Law to handle Samay!
If she is handling him privately on her own, then it is a choice she made & hence she should be ready to face the consequences without blaming anyone!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#92

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

It may appear on the face of it, that Maya is submitting only under blackmail or pressure! But that is not the only choice she is having here! She can always take the help of her husband & Law to handle Samay!
If she is handling him privately on her own, then it is a choice she made & hence she should be ready to face the consequences without blaming anyone!


Maya tried to take law's help in Ashwin's case but law didn't provide justice to her when she was right...If she inform Arjun about all her deeds "herself" will Arjun be by her side?...Her obsession for Arjun and her vulnerability to lose him has turned her so blind that she is unable to see anything beyond Arjun...She is not a righteous person how can we expect her to be?


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Posted: 8 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: agastya_muni


just dropped in on the forum to get a quick update and found this topic with interesting views. The one that caught my eye was this one so please don't think I am picking on you.

@RED found it very interesting you would bring it up. How do you term a woman who asks a man to do to her body all that she accuses the purported rapist would have done? She even had the audacity to apply Aayan's saliva on the wounds. It's of course not shown how she managed to get his saliva.

A woman is giving an open invitation to a man, exposing her body and asking him to inflict all that a man would have done during the rape. Then she blows a flying kiss to him as a thank you. I would call that inciting a man. Tomorrow if she cries rape why should we call that a deplorable act. She has been asking for it and leading the man all along.

I agree rape is the most repulsive and demeaning act one can resort to. But a woman who clearly invites them upon her does not need any sympathy or support.

For all we know all the utterances she claims Ayan made must also be a figment of her imagination. She is wicked, vile, cunning and a vindictive manipulator. all adjectives fall short when describing the character of Maya. Yes you may argue she is ill etc etc but even such ill persons are dangerous to the society and shold be locked up. In my opinion even Maya should rot in jail for the atrocities carried out by her.

In short the Heroine of this serial is the Vamp and Vixen of the serial. This is something new to Indian TV.



Nobody deserves to get raped only because he/ she exposed her body or framed someone in attempt to rape/rape case...In GG Amy actually did all what it takes to frame DC in "rape case" and than she killed him... In Beyhad as it won't be acceptable for audience Maya did all what it takes to frame someone in "attempt to rape" case...Amy didn't pay the price of her deeds but Maya should as it won't be acceptable for audience...

yeah exactly the way trying to kiss someone's husband can intice or invite him to an extra-marital affair...

Also nobody deserve to be punished for fake rape or attempt to rape case...Maya should be punished by law for her crimes...nobody should punish her...

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Posted: 8 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: shalinii173


Yes You are right when a woman say NO then its a 'NO'. That reminds me a scene from movie named "PINK" where they say even if a prostitute say 'No' after getting the money then its a ''NO". But you know something she will pay the money back. Coz thats the deal. You agree with that?

But whats happening here? She used Samay. She took advantage of him even after knowing his intentions. Still, she dont have to pay him just confess her crime to Arjun. She has to decide. She got to choose. And here she decided to come to Samay. So its not a rape.

I never justify rape no matter what. But if Maya choses Samay over a confession. Then definitely its not a rape.




she knew his intentions to be with her and to love her not about his intentions of raping her because she thought he is her pet dog, he does not bite her without her consent that is why she used him for her benefit by showing a hope.
Whatever she is doing (going to Samay) is her Majboori (according to her as Samay has proofs) in fear of loosing her love (Arjun) which is the main plot of the show, and if she is raped by Samay then it's rape.
In the same way Sanjh is marrying Samay knowing everything about him that he is a murderer of her father but instead of telling police and her family she is marrying him knowing his intentions and his nature. How can be she sure that after marriage he will not harm her family, she is not psycho like Maya then why is she doing this...i think because she is dumb as usual.
@bold...if the character Maya is so sensible then why the show is named beyhadh and she is called psychopath, this is the gist of this show that how a phycopath handle situations and centered on Maya's activities.
everyone has their own pov and likes and dislikes, i am just enjoying the show, so now i rest my case...do not quote me.



Edited by MissIamTheBoss - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#95
After watching today's epi, mental or not I am disgusted with Maya to no end 🤢 there is nothing remotely good about her. Previously I felt her past was responsible for her being the way she is and she seemed to be a grey shades character. But now I find her to be pure evil. Honestly her kid is far better off not being born than being born to a horrible woman like her. There is every probability of her passing on her illness to that child and it would only be a mercy to spare it from such a horrible life.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Pretty interesting discussion.

I have also zero sympathy for Maya. Never felt any while watching the episode. Do I condone the act of Samay? No absolutely not. But do I feel bad when she's at the receiving end of inhuman blackmailing? Absolutely not. She called on it upon herself by continuously attaching herself with Samay.

I don't quite judge her for sleeping with Samay as a bargain. Many women do that to progress forward in their careers. However one can't classify it as "rape" or "molestation". This is clearly a deal or negotiation. If any woman feels she's okay with sleeping with her boss to get ahead, that's her choice. I am liberal enough and if two consenting persons decide to have sex for whatever reason, that's not a crime. It could be seen as an iniquitous act of course by moral standards but again not a crime.

Problem arose when Maya blurred the line between right and wrong herself and committed crime upon crime for no good reason. She even tried to control a beast and used him as a pawn in her disgusting game! That was it! She had to get it back someday and she's right now.

And regarding rape, it's definitely vile & gruesome. But Maya herself should have understood it when she clearly mocked real rape victims by cold bloodedly & meticulously staging a rape drama and trapped an innocent with Samay as an accomplice. It would not be too wrong to say she's being served what she dished out to others.

Lastly it's quite futile to try to prove Samay worse than Maya. They are, objectively, the two sides of the same coin. Samay is immoral, opportunist, killer and a molester. But how is Maya too different? She killed, perhaps multiple times, got herself faux raped by Samay and outrageously undermined the sensitivity of rape to dismantle the life of an innocent young man who only wanted to help his brother! She stalks, obsess and doesn't think twice to endanger any life to serve her selfish motive. Both Maya and Samay are SAME!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#97
Maya looks at her human relations through a prism of power & Control and not necessarily love!
Jhanvi, Arjun and Samay are her pets as long as they are controllable. when she loses control over them she does not hesitate to destroy them!
Samay aka Rajiv and even Jhanvi have threatened to rebel against her and suffered the consequences! Funnily they come back to her again only to get tamed!
Arjun has shown some resentment in a limited way and he has been handled skillfully by Maya! He has not so far revolted against her in a big way to test what she can do with him!

Maya does not love anyone! She does not even trust anyone!

She just wants to control people who are loyal to her! Her enemies have to bite the dust if they dare to challenge her!

She is only having wild animal's raw instincts of basic survival! She may not expect anyone to sympathise for her, as she can handle herself in every situation!

She is successful so far, as luck favors her along with her fight for survival instincts!

She may fall one day when her luck runs out or her fighting spirits get tamed if and when she finds her match in opposition!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Oh my.. "krystal_watz".. I can't believe you just said that.. "Ayan's approach was rash, but his intention was focused on retrieving the keys".. you must be kidding me.. Did you watch that episode? The keys were in her bra.. what was he going to do.. put his hands in and grab them? then ripping her blouse?? I'm so sorry.. but that does not justify him being right.. Maya is crazy and for her to do something stupid is expected be that her killing her mom, dad, etc.. she mentally ill or pysco.. what ever she is.. but Ayan??? He's not ill or psyco.. then why would he react the way he did.. and the idiots, VM, Saanj and everyone who said, he didn't do anything wrong?? that was a disturbing moment.. yeah Maya lied, but she took the opportunity that he created.. in no way anyone should be allowed to treat any human being the way Ayan did. he should be punished for that. And like the lawyer said, Maya should've been raped first and then this case would move forward. I call it assult.. VM and her gang are always after Maya.. Maya is crazy.. okay.. then take the crazy person and get her checked out. I'm sure there's treatment out there. I'm sorry.. but your statement below really bothers me..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rapa

Oh my.. "krystal_watz".. I can't believe you just said that.. "Ayan's approach was rash, but his intention was focused on retrieving the keys".. you must be kidding me.. Did you watch that episode? The keys were in her bra.. what was he going to do.. put his hands in and grab them? then ripping her blouse?? I'm so sorry.. but that does not justify him being right.. Maya is crazy and for her to do something stupid is expected be that her killing her mom, dad, etc.. she mentally ill or pysco.. what ever she is.. but Ayan??? He's not ill or psyco.. then why would he react the way he did.. and the idiots, VM, Saanj and everyone who said, he didn't do anything wrong?? that was a disturbing moment.. yeah Maya lied, but she took the opportunity that he created.. in no way anyone should be allowed to treat any human being the way Ayan did. he should be punished for that. And like the lawyer said, Maya should've been raped first and then this case would move forward. I call it assult.. VM and her gang are always after Maya.. Maya is crazy.. okay.. then take the crazy person and get her checked out. I'm sure there's treatment out there. I'm sorry.. but your statement below really bothers me..



I know. All others are zaalim and bedard except Maya.

Maya can kill, maim, drug, abduct, get fake 'rape' marks on her body---no issues with that. 'Crazy' hai, ee sab to chalta hai. 😳

But Ayan, how dare he try to free his brother from the drugged and tied state!!! 😡 HOW DARE HE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Poor Maya baby, nobody understands her.

P.S. If it was me in Maya's place, I'd have stripped her naked, taken the keys, rescued my brother, beaten her black and blue with a belt, and finally handed her over to the Police.
Edited by krystal_watz - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I don't even know what to say..

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