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Posted: 8 years ago
@Fernandes this so called magic drug I have read only in stories. So it is my assumption.
@magic bell we will have to see, today episode should throw some light. . Now coming to declaring a person dead, one thing we need to know that is if we go the right way it is a long drawn process for everything, but people like Maya are used to getting things done in a different fashion. We dont know her power centres yet. At what level Maya has power. So need to wait

@factfictionmyth I didnt see morphin being kept. As I said physical examination is done, not actual autopsy is my take. If Maya opens her eyes today we need to see what she did. Yes she fell on the table, there were pebbles on which blood fell, it is missing. There are lot of loop holes. But how will you connect is the question.
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Posted: 8 years ago
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWKCR06BVEy/

guys see this glimpse of today episode

it shows that arjun and maya fell on pebbles. neither arjun intentionally murdered maya nor maya staged her death
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Fernandes this so called magic drug I have read only in stories. So it is my assumption.

@magic bell we will have to see, today episode should throw some light. . Now coming to declaring a person dead, one thing we need to know that is if we go the right way it is a long drawn process for everything, but people like Maya are used to getting things done in a different fashion. We dont know her power centres yet. At what level Maya has power. So need to wait

@factfictionmyth I didnt see morphin being kept. As I said physical examination is done, not actual autopsy is my take. If Maya opens her eyes today we need to see what she did. Yes she fell on the table, there were pebbles on which blood fell, it is missing. There are lot of loop holes. But how will you connect is the question.

What about the body shifting its location? Maya went unconscious with head resting on table, but later her body was found lying completely on the floor, little away from table!

Is it a blooper or a deliberate hint pointing out some suspicious activities did happen after Arjun went unconscious?
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Posted: 8 years ago
5/7/2017

What I feel in all probability what happened to Arjun today is what happened to Maya the 9 year old girl. Was Arjun a born criminal. No. Did he had any crime records no. Yes he had an anger and in anger he had man handled people, which includes even Ashwin. Yes his anger was spontaneous. Which came out for Maya, when he beat Ashwin. Again came out for Maya when he beat Ayan, again came out when he slapped Saanjh and it came for Saanjh when he spoke angrily to Maya at Prem's funeral. Yes Arjun was an angry young man. What Maya exploited today was his anger. She told all her crimes. Everything except Mauritius Pandit and that Vijay guy. I dont know why CVs are not talking about it, what is so mysterious about it to keep it hidden. But other wise Maya told all her crimes.

And even at that point Arjun told he will leave her, so that she will be in jail alone. But Maya doesnt leave him. She instigates him telling if he doesnt kill her she will kill Saanjh and Ayan. So Arjun pushes her. What was interesting was that when Maya falls she pulls Arjun also and he too falls losing conscious. So the question is did she intentionally pull him. Because if Maya really wanted to die there was no need to pull him. But she pulled him down with her. Today they clearly showed Maya's head was on the table. 3 pebbles had blood on them. Now we see Maya on ground, with the bloody pebbles missing.

So a phase is really over. Arjun knows about all of Maya's crimes. He had known vulnerable Maya, and he saw the bad and mad Maya and her mad love. Yes he hated this woman. He hated her completely. He had married a vulnerable woman, while Saanjh and Vandana saw bad and mad Maya. Maya was a combination she was vulnerable, she is mad and bad, and is there any other thing that is true for her. Does she have another roop which is neither vulnerable nor bad and mad. If yes what is the proof of that roop. But before that roop is shown we need Maya's past, what happened to her on 9th birthday.

Today words drove Arjun to madness and he committed a murder, we dont know but yes Arjun did react violently. I had earlier also told words affect Maya. She reacts to words. What happens when words affect you, you have to experience it. Today Maya gave an experience to Arjun on the effect of words on human mind.

She had done that with Ayan also. But with him it was mild, he reacted fast. Arjun was more in control, but she managed to break through his shield. Sometimes a crime is reaction, not intentional. Arjun case today was that. Maya's case 19 years back was that. But then she was judged based on that. Today Arjun will be judged based on what Maya says. 4 years back VM heard Ashwin's voice over and above the child. In Ayan rape case the judge heard Maya's voice, today the police also hears Maya's voice. If Arjun needs justice, the voice of the 9 year old has to be heard. The voice that was lost in wilderness has to be bought back. Because when Ashwin's voice was heard, the foundation of war was laid, then it was Ashwin speaking, it was Ashwin in Maya speaking and it wrecked complete havoc even after his death. It was death of a woman who had Ashwin in her, who allowed Ashwin to rule her brain. Remember the Maya who jumps in water behind Jhanvi whose head hits a rock, Ashwin brings her out and Arjun make Dusky save her. It has to play out in the story.

Coming to Saanjh. Why Sannjh asking Arjun. How could you break promise. Remember Saanjh when you knew Arjun had promised Maya he wont drink and you allowed him to get drunk in season 1. You heard Arjun telling Maya is giving controls, she is telling no alchohol. You allowed him to drink, thus making him break his promise with his wife. Today she made him break the promise given to you. And it hurts Saanjh. When promise is broken it hurts. It had hurt Maya also in season 1, when promises were broken. So the promise was meant to be broken.

Now go to understand why Maya instigated Arjun. Atleast please do something now. Precap says Saanjh asking letter didnt tell Arjun killed Maya. Dont ask stupid questions, like rape didnt happen. Look at the evidence more pragmatically, objectively than emotionally to fight the battle.

Now we dont know where Maya is, we only saw that box getting open. So the mystery remains.
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

5/7/2017

What I feel in all probability what happened to Arjun today is what happened to Maya the 9 year old girl. Was Arjun a born criminal. No. Did he had any crime records no. Yes he had an anger and in anger he had man handled people, which includes even Ashwin. Yes his anger was spontaneous. Which came out for Maya, when he beat Ashwin. Again came out for Maya when he beat Ayan, again came out when he slapped Saanjh and it came for Saanjh when he spoke angrily to Maya at Prem's funeral. Yes Arjun was an angry young man. What Maya exploited today was his anger. She told all her crimes. Everything except Mauritius Pandit and that Vijay guy. I dont know why CVs are not talking about it, what is so mysterious about it to keep it hidden. But other wise Maya told all her crimes.

And even at that point Arjun told he will leave her, so that she will be in jail alone. But Maya doesnt leave him. She instigates him telling if he doesnt kill her she will kill Saanjh and Ayan. So Arjun pushes her. What was interesting was that when Maya falls she pulls Arjun also and he too falls losing conscious. So the question is did she intentionally pull him. Because if Maya really wanted to die there was no need to pull him. But she pulled him down with her. Today they clearly showed Maya's head was on the table. 3 pebbles had blood on them. Now we see Maya on ground, with the bloody pebbles missing.

So a phase is really over. Arjun knows about all of Maya's crimes. He had known vulnerable Maya, and he saw the bad and mad Maya and her mad love. Yes he hated this woman. He hated her completely. He had married a vulnerable woman, while Saanjh and Vandana saw bad and mad Maya. Maya was a combination she was vulnerable, she is mad and bad, and is there any other thing that is true for her. Does she have another roop which is neither vulnerable nor bad and mad. If yes what is the proof of that roop. But before that roop is shown we need Maya's past, what happened to her on 9th birthday.

Today words drove Arjun to madness and he committed a murder, we dont know but yes Arjun did react violently. I had earlier also told words affect Maya. She reacts to words. What happens when words affect you, you have to experience it. Today Maya gave an experience to Arjun on the effect of words on human mind.

She had done that with Ayan also. But with him it was mild, he reacted fast. Arjun was more in control, but she managed to break through his shield. Sometimes a crime is reaction, not intentional. Arjun case today was that. Maya's case 19 years back was that. But then she was judged based on that. Today Arjun will be judged based on what Maya says. 4 years back VM heard Ashwin's voice over and above the child. In Ayan rape case the judge heard Maya's voice, today the police also hears Maya's voice. If Arjun needs justice, the voice of the 9 year old has to be heard. The voice that was lost in wilderness has to be bought back. Because when Ashwin's voice was heard, the foundation of war was laid, then it was Ashwin speaking, it was Ashwin in Maya speaking and it wrecked complete havoc even after his death. It was death of a woman who had Ashwin in her, who allowed Ashwin to rule her brain. Remember the Maya who jumps in water behind Jhanvi whose head hits a rock, Ashwin brings her out and Arjun make Dusky save her. It has to play out in the story.

Coming to Saanjh. Why Sannjh asking Arjun. How could you break promise. Remember Saanjh when you knew Arjun had promised Maya he wont drink and you allowed him to get drunk in season 1. You heard Arjun telling Maya is giving controls, she is telling no alchohol. You allowed him to drink, thus making him break his promise with his wife. Today she made him break the promise given to you. And it hurts Saanjh. When promise is broken it hurts. It had hurt Maya also in season 1, when promises were broken. So the promise was meant to be broken.

Now go to understand why Maya instigated Arjun. Atleast please do something now. Precap says Saanjh asking letter didnt tell Arjun killed Maya. Dont ask stupid questions, like rape didnt happen. Look at the evidence more pragmatically, objectively than emotionally to fight the battle.

Now we dont know where Maya is, we only saw that box getting open. So the mystery remains.

Today also Maya did not talk about much on Rajiv! What little she told him earlier were very sketchy & half-truths! In fact Samay revealed a lot more to Saanjh and we have no idea if Saanjh could tell any of them to Arjun when Maya spent time in Asylum!
If the closeness that developed between them in S3 & his hospital wala dialogue of maya brought samay between them caused a major rift between them etc, are any pointers he knew something more than what Maya told him!
However today Maya just made a passing mention about Samay's love for her killed Prem & she has otherwise nothing to do with that! Is it contradicting anyway what she told to Jhanvi earlier in the day?
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Fernandes Maya told Jhanvi she is guilty of Prem's death. Told Arjun Samay killed Prem. Both were half truths, not exactly contradicting. She didnt kill Prem, action was done by Samay. She only wanted to stop the video, so in a way responsible for Prem's death.
We dont know what was the relation of Saanjh and Arjun during 6 months Maya was in aslyum. Saanjh might have told what Samay told her. We have to believe she told. Else Samay cannot be the reason for Arjun leaving Maya, there are better crimes to leave her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
A little question everyone, Are there two Maya's? Because clearly one is dead. There is no way in hell she will survive with that much bleeding. This is so Damn confusing Please someone explain it to me
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Posted: 8 years ago
@scream for me Maya has 2 birth dates with one day between them. Now are these birth dates of 2 different Maya's or different dates of one single Maya, well just like you everyone is speculating. But without Maya Arjun munda cannot come out of jail.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Hi shruthi! i'm new to this forum but LOOOVE reading your analysis...literally went all the way back to read ur analysis from the beginning of the show n have been a silent reader of your posts since hunter and prey series.
Just wanted to point out though that Maya didnt pull arjun. After reading ur analysis for tday's episode i ws confused so went to watch the last part of the episode again n she didn't pull arjun. Arjun slips up on the marbles thus loosing his balance n they both fall down. Arjun beside her n maya on the table. As they fall both of them hav their hands in the air but (blooper) next scene shot from the tables angle shows arjun still holding maya's neck as they fall n land on the floor...thn as we saw arjun hits head n all that happens.

And as far as the mauritus pandit is concerned i think he died naturally but vijay its obviously Maya cuz who else wud do it...at that time it ws a mystery cuz we thought arjun as a criminal due to ashwin's murder but now we know so its obvious maya did it n i doubt the CVs intend on revealing smthn so small wen we have bigger questions lik maya's real sach n wat hapnd on her 9th bday n the whole deal with the two birthdates. I don't think there will be any twins...tat wud rlly kill the vibe of the show n besides faking death evn after being buried is nthn new in indian tv serials...classic example is kasautii zindagi kay n all those old shows...mar ke bhi wapas aajate hai n the explanation always leave us baffled...though i think that ur drug thing is probably hw beyhadh will show it n swati or shruti wtevr the new charcater's name is, is definitely not what she seems. theres more to her cuz apparently she - the actress said - is going to play a very important role.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Alex thanks for pointing it out, it looked for me as if she pulled. Marbles stands for Maya's mistakes, so Arjun also falls due to Maya's mistakes/crimes.
See CVs have so far not left any incident, though logical bloopers on timeline/medical is there. But they have given answers to most questions. Even they showed how Maya deleted the video Arjun received. So those 2 cannot be hanging, there is some motive behind Maya not telling those.

Also Maurtius case Saanjh got Maya's earring near that temple. Vijay's case Arjun know he had an accident after altercation with him

Swati has more role to play that is for sure.

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