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Posted: 8 years ago
hmm makes sense - abt the marbles - since every mistake maya has done, indirectly arjun is responsible for it cuz maya did it for him. If he had even after knowing her so well tried to help her earlier on maya would not have done all that she did. Even more what pisses me off is that for arjun to take a stand n decide to help maya...all happened after she got pregnant for the second time (or first time nw taht we know). Like it took a child for him to take a stand...tho he did nthn after saying he will..."arjun aur uski jhoote kasme" n thn it took his child's death to make him say things wch had he done so from the very beginning cudv prevented SO MUCH!
And i have a feeling that somewhere deep down Maya cared for that child more thus that anger towards Vandana kyunke agar maya chahti toh VM ko bahaut pehle mardeti...that child's death n the sour truth from arjun that he ddnt love her from the past 6 months acted as the catalyst for maya mehrotra to return thus maya arjun sharma is dead.

This new coming phase is going to be one hell of a rollercoaster ride...expecting your analysis for explanations 😃 😃 😃


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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Alex thanks for pointing it out, it looked for me as if she pulled. Marbles stands for Maya's mistakes, so Arjun also falls due to Maya's mistakes/crimes.

See CVs have so far not left any incident, though logical bloopers on timeline/medical is there. But they have given answers to most questions. Even they showed how Maya deleted the video Arjun received. So those 2 cannot be hanging, there is some motive behind Maya not telling those.

Also Maurtius case Saanjh got Maya's earring near that temple. Vijay's case Arjun know he had an accident after altercation with him

Swati has more role to play that is for sure.


@bold yes the maurtius case is not mention by maya if she had confessed her all crimes to arjun why would she hide that incidents?? there is no special reason for that. And shurthi his name is actually Vikram not vijay and beliv me i have watched that episode very closely the hand she used for hand break in that car..doesn't looks like maya's hand somehow to me..😕

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@scream for me Maya has 2 birth dates with one day between them. Now are these birth dates of 2 different Maya's or different dates of one single Maya, well just like you everyone is speculating. But without Maya Arjun munda cannot come out of jail.


so many possibliites are left on that occasion but one theory came to my mind is that b/w her two birth dates the real maya which was good one i mean we have seen so far that she has been tortured and abused by her father and all that in her childhood..maybe in b/w two birth dates she had a friend who was very close her you remember in some flash backs maya crying and telling ashwin she would never do that again something like that shurthi? maybe b/w those two birth dates she made a friend really close to her and that friend was/is the maya we see today, maybe that friend has also 9th date birthday but somewhere i feel she was the bad and mad one?😕 maybe some incident took place which cause real maya's death and the psycho and master mind friend took real maya's place..maya shared her all secret to that psycho friend..they celebrated their b'day togather, but after that real maya gone she took that place and fought against all odds.what do you think about this shurthi?? 😉 do you beliv this is mixup of the movie Gone girl and The Orphan?
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Posted: 8 years ago
@factfictionmyth what is the day in between, day in between stand for a mix of Maya before 9th birthday and Maya after 9th birthday. Whatever happened to Maya on 9th birthday made her bad and mad.
But for me Maya could always held in between. You just need to understand her a bit. Maya should have had a friend. Someone close to her, but then that relation couldnt continue. See Maya's friend is a need of the story. There is not a single person who told her she is not bad and mad in true sense.

If you need to come out of the mess, there has to be a person who need to constantly show you, your positive aspect, mentor you, coach you to go towards goodness.

A mere theory and frightening wont help. It needs constant empathetic support
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@factfictionmyth what is the day in between, day in between stand for a mix of Maya before 9th birthday and Maya after 9th birthday. Whatever happened to Maya on 9th birthday made her bad and mad.

But for me Maya could always held in between. You just need to understand her a bit. Maya should have had a friend. Someone close to her, but then that relation couldnt continue. See Maya's friend is a need of the story. There is not a single person who told her she is not bad and mad in true sense.

If you need to come out of the mess, there has to be a person who need to constantly show you, your positive aspect, mentor you, coach you to go towards goodness.

A mere theory and frightening wont help. It needs constant empathetic support


Lets see Shruti. It feels like Swati might be Maya's really old friend, maybe present in childhood.

But I dont think she would have a positive effect, rather she has entered in an on going war and that too in offensive mode.

I might be completely wrong but the way it is going, rather than mentoring Maya's positive aspects, she would channel her negative thoughts.
But that is what I feel after seeing how they are trying to get rid of Arjun.
It might be a different case as well, after all we havent seen much of Swati.

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Posted: 8 years ago
About Maya not mentioning the pandit or Vijay, maybe she felt it was not important enough to bother Arjun. She had to mention Ashwin coz she had to make Arjun realise to what lengths she could go to protect him from harm and about his family (including Saanjh's) to make him realise the extent of her insanity to hold him to her even if it meant depriving him of all his relations. Maybe mentioning about the pandit and Vijay would have enforced her insanity more or maybe she was exhausted from listing down all her crimes that she forgot them 😆 I guess over the past few days we have debated on how Arjun broke the promises but now when I come to think of it, how could anyone ever hold on to them? I would not begrudge Arjun for breaking them. His one fault as I said before lies in not understanding Maya. Had he understood her, he would have probably understood her expectations behind making those vows. Had Saanjh asked him for the same, she would have expected him to live those vows with her but not give up everything else, make her his center of universe and forget the rest of the world. Arjun did not know that when he made those vows that his entire world would be eclipsed by Maya. Had he known he would have run away. Well any sane guy would have. Maya knew if Arjun walked away, he would seek solace in Saanjh's arms but she never wanted that. It was either her or no one else in Arjun's life. She knew Arjun would never forgive her after what she did to Vandana. I don't think she was afraid to go to jail but she was afraid to let go of her hold on Arjun. She wanted to frame her death so that Arjun is imprisoned. This way he stays away from Ayaan and Saanjh and he is also suffering coz of her which means he is still connected to her. She wanted this connection.
I can never empathize with this woman and after witnessing her atrocities I can't empathize with the child in her who suffered coz there will always be a facet about her childhood self that will remain hidden forever since it died with Ashwin. She was and will always be a perpetrator. Just coz she is a woman she should not walk away scott free from her crimes. Arjun was right. A befitting punishment to her and her madness would have been to lead a lonely life without Arjun but sadly even there she got her way. She goaded Arjun into taking a drastic step and provoked him to assault her that led to her fall. But like in Ayaan's case there is a high possibility of there being another angle to it where she might have made Arjun fall deliberately. About her being dead coz of hitting her head, well in a normal case I would say that injury was fatal but well we have seen crazy things in this show. So don't wanna think about what's normal or not 🤣

I could not reply to your comment yesterday since I got busy later. But about Ayaan and the rape fiasco I can never agree to that point 😆 Yes his dialogues looked filthy but only if u look at it from Maya's perspective. Yes he said he doesn't care if she is his bhabhi or not. But did that mean he intended to rape her? Certainly not. Being a devar, he can never raise his hand on her, let alone man handle her. So yes before attacking her he didn't care if she was his bhabhi. For him to care for her as his bhabhi had she ever been a bhabhi in the first place? And yes, there is also the chivalry factor. Being a man you cannot go rough on a woman. Yes he got rough but did that mean again he intended to rape her? NO. A sensible move on his part would have been to break the door but I am sure Maya would have stood in between and then had he struck her to get past the door, even then he would have been called names here for hitting a woman. I still remember an instance when I was watching another show, the hero slaps his wife out of anger when she accuses his parents (who have showered him with unconditional love which is fake btw but the hero is unaware of it) of plotting to murder him and my friend screamed foul saying that was domestic violence. Really now? 😆 He loved his wife but when she calls his parents murderers he should not get angry? If a woman hits a woman its fine, if a man mauls another man it is perfectly normal. But if a man hits a woman all hell breaks loose 😆 Respect is something that should be given to all regardless of their gender. I agree women have been subjected to cruelty and inhuman treatment over the ages but does it mean they can get away with anything and everything? If I take Mahabharath as example, what happened with Draupadi was horribly wrong esp the cheer haran but can u say it was perfectly OK for her to mock Dritharashtra who was like a father to her? Not referring to SP MB coz that was just a butchered version of the actual epic that showed Pandavs as saints. A mistake is a mistake and neither can one mistake mask the other or become a justification for another. Sorry went offtrack. So for me they both are mistakes but yes the gravity of one mistake was more than the other. As for Ayaan ripping her clothes he groped for her but when she slithered away her dress got ruined and she screamed trying to make it look like he was trying to rape her but deep down she knew he wouldn't do anything remotely close. Coz if she feared that Ayaan was trying to rape her, her only attempt would have been to run away from him and not scheme to frame him for that rape. She wanted to ingrain the seed of doubt in Arjun's subconscious mind and that's why she did what she did. What is there to say that Ayaan would have taken away the key from her blouse? He could have held her upside down to shake it off as well. I have seen a real life incident when a woman had wrongly accused a man of sexually molesting her while the guy who was innocent was harassed by society. At that moment I felt ashamed being a woman. It was easy for the society to believe that lie coz a woman is always painted a victim. I hate men who abuse or molest a woman but I hate women like her more than them. Coz of women like them who get exposed then society doesn't a believe a woman who was raped even which is more wrong. Being women we take pride over the fact we hold ourselves with dignity which is true. But in exceptional cases like Maya (who are a rare minority but given what I have seen such people do exist sadly), I would say women like them are equally or more dangerous to the society coz they assault the character and dignity of another human being which is no less than rape. I guess this one track made me hate Maya a lot and till then somewhere I had some amount of sympathy still left for her. But not anymore.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Maya told Arjun that she did nothing but Samay killed Prem to prove his love for her! Earlier, while she was speaking to Jhanvi, she included Prem's death also one of the crimes in her list of count!
Is it confusing ? No, both are correct! One is criminal culpability & other is moral responsibility!
Maya did encourage Samay's crazy love for her, for her own purpose! So she has moral responsibility for Prem's death while Samay is criminally culpable!

Same logic applies for Maya's killings in the name of her Beyhadh Love for Arjun! Arjun did encourage Maya to love him beyhadh crazy & he was tolerating her for very long! Is it not fair then, Arjun has to take a share of blame for Maya's sins all done in his name & for his sake? Did he do anything to stop her?
So, Maya takes criminal culpability & Arjun takes moral responsibility!
In one sense, Maya punishing Arjun with a murder charge is justifiable!
Maya will get a death sentence if ever caught by law!
But when Arjun threatened her with arrest & jail, she decided to take him along with her!
Both deserve punishment for her crimes! How can Arjun wash off his hands from the dirt?
So, she is faking her death to make sure Arjun gets his due first, then she will follow the Gold fish example!
She will not leave Arjun alone, even after death!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi, the guy from the office Vikram just got into an accident. He isn't dead. Maya asked to pay his hospital bills
These two cases wasn't there because for Maya they didn't represent danger. It's njt hers. Could not take Duffer from her. But all this is one line
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: Laska

@shruthiravi, the guy from the office Vikram just got into an accident. He isn't dead. Maya asked to pay his hospital bills

These two cases wasn't there because for Maya they didn't represent danger. It's njt hers. Could not take Duffer from her. But all this is one line


@laska the car's hand break was put into neutral by left hand and on that hand's pinkey finger had gold ring..and natural question comes to my mind that hand was covered with black transperent sleeve..on that day maya wore a pink saree with black sleeveless blouse...but. now i think she was maya and Cvs never going to reveal that to us..😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
Guys posting from mobile. Will post detailed analysis tomorrow. So she is shruthi. Swati name did confuse me though I tried to analyze with that name. I had actually wanted a character whose name implies wisdom, inner knowledge. Shruthi fits the bill as she will bring inner knowledge. Saanjh biggest task will be to prove this woman wrong. She seems a neighbour whom Maya had fed a sob story. Story of an abused woman. She had not complete thing but shruthi made assumptions. Maya told saanj arjun friend but in statement shruthi says they are lovers.Maya keep proof corroborating her statement. I feel she is dead. But then she lives through shruthi. Just like ashwin voice lived through vandana. It was interesting to note it was dark when saanjh and arjun burns prem.But it is a day when saanjh and ayan burns vandana. It is also interesting it was mathur who were Sharma neighbours who supported vandana. And again shruthi who is coming to support Maya is her neighbour. Answer is in past.Answer is with saanj and ayan together. To defeat the perception Maya the woman has created both her past and ayan is needed. Ashwin wanted to kill ayan. I had told that day itself if he was killed ashwin would have won over Maya. But he will finally give justice to the child defeating the woman. Other aspects I will put later as I can't put it in mobile. But the way I loved saanj taking hand from arjun after hearing shruthi statement.

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