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Posted: 8 years ago
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If anybody likes maya due to jenny s acting that fine but why justify her acts which are criminal acts and instead call saanjh a criminal. This show there is lack of judgement. A character should be judged only on their actions.
Saanjh fans are not biased but saanjh is unfairly judged for example when saanjh asked samay to stay away from court it was wrong move or at the most inefficient lawyer but calling her criminal is crazy when nobody is pinpointing to maya who framed ayaan in attempt to rape case.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@TheUnique We all love the way Jenny's portraying Maya. But there is a difference in loving an actor and the character she portrays. Yeah, when Jenny cries she makes u want to sympathise with maya. Does that mean u should sympathise with her or support the wrong things she does(especially when it is so clear that maya is cunning and manipulative)?
When she speaks to her ganesha, Maya becomes a child who is seeking forgiveness for a wrong act she is going to commit. It's almost always, 'how did u let this happen? Now I'm forced to do this.'

There are Jenny fans in this forum too who hate Maya and condemn her for her wrong actions (very few, but there are)

Agree Aneri's acting prowess is not as awesome as Jenny's. Totally agree with u on that. But, imo she's doing a fine job and her character doesn't deserve this kind of hate and namecalling. If an actor's acting is ur agenda of not liking a character, then kushal is weakest among the three. Why is he not receiving inappropriate name-calling from fans?

Again I'm specifying nobody is 'forcing' others to like Saanjh. Ppl question the double standards that Maya fans show when it comes to Maya and Saanjh which is so bloody evident in this forum.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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There's no way i like Maya due to Jenny, if that was the case then I would also have liked her past characters which i don't
Coming to the topic: being a lawyer, if stopping an only eye witness from coming to court is not criminal then i don't know what it is???
And Maya is called a criminal based on assumptions (which MAY or MAY NOT be true).
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: muskiii

There's no way i like Maya due to Jenny, if that was the case then I would also have liked her past characters which i don't

Coming to the topic: being a lawyer, if stopping an only eye witness from coming to court is not criminal then i don't know what it is???
And Maya is called a criminal based on assumptions (which MAY or MAY NOT be true).


What Saanjh did was wrong and foolish...Samay would have been summoned by police as a witness in the court any which ways coz police knew about him..the prosecutor would have called him too.
This shows that she needs to brush up her skills as a lawyer

But a criminal ?
Umm...why did the judge not punish her if this was the case..judge could have given her some form of punishment but this was not the case.
But
As per u Maya cannot be called a criminal Coz there is no proof against her...Yes agree that she cannot be called a murderer coz it is not proven yet.
But Maya drugged and tied Arjun...she inflicted wounds on her own body and tried to commit suicide only to stop Arjun from leaving him.
And this has been proven right...so shouldn't be called a criminal too then for mentally harassing Arjun and for drugging and tieing him up against his will ?

Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: anshvi


What Saanjh did was wrong and foolish...Samay would have been summoned by police as a witness in the court any which ways coz police knew about him..the prosecutor would have called him too.
This shows that she needs to brush up her skills as a lawyer

But a criminal ?
Umm...why did the judge not punish her if this was the case..judge could have given her some form of punishment but this was not the case.
But
As per u Maya cannot be called a criminal Coz there is no proof against her...Yes agree that she cannot be called a murderer coz it is not proven yet.
But Maya drugged and tied Arjun...she inflicted wounds on her own body and tried to commit suicide only to stop Arjun from leaving him.
And this has been proven right...so shouldn't be called a criminal too then for mentally harassing Arjun and for drugging and tieing him up against his will ?


Saanjh is a criminal. Hiding a witness to manipulate the case is crime. Just because the judge didn't arrest her doesn't mean she's not a criminal. The same judge also didn't say anything hearing and Maya herself accepting her forcefully taking Arjun with her and injecting, etc.


Also, for Maya to get arrested for abducting Arjun, first Arjun himself needs to give consent to charge her and make her arrested. It's his call, not others. But he himself is fine with her and still loves her. So what crime when the victim himself has forgiven or/and fine with her?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: anshvi



What Saanjh did was wrong and foolish...Samay would have been summoned by police as a witness in the court any which ways coz police knew about him..the prosecutor would have called him too.
This shows that she needs to brush up her skills as a lawyer

But a criminal ?
Umm...why did the judge not punish her if this was the case..judge could have given her some form of punishment but this was not the case.
But
As per u Maya cannot be called a criminal Coz there is no proof against her...Yes agree that she cannot be called a murderer coz it is not proven yet.
But Maya drugged and tied Arjun...she inflicted wounds on her own body and tried to commit suicide only to stop Arjun from leaving him.
And this has been proven right...so shouldn't be called a criminal too then for mentally harassing Arjun and for drugging and tieing him up against his will ?




Maaya did really wrong and yes she should be punished for whatever wrong she has done (whether we Maaya supporters like it or not) and should not be punished for the ones she hasn't .
Since the writers haven't shown anything clearly other than Arjun's abduction I would leave her with that.

Coming to Saanjh, trying to hold a eyewitness from going to court, or affecting his statement is a crime as per Indian Law.
As for the judge, I don't expect much. I mean she said "Ayaan Sharma ko jail ki saza sunai jaati hai"
She did not even mention the years, aisa lag raha hai poore zindagi ke liye jail bhej degi Ayaan ko 😆
So I am not surprised that the judge did not say anything to Saanjh.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I love Jennifer's acting and for me she is the best performer of this show.
She is class apart and nails every single scene...her performance is flawless.

Aneri for me is apt for the role...but in my opinion she does faulter here and there...she needs to work a bit on her diction..I noticed that she kept saying 'Jooth' and Jootha instead of Jhooth...if she improves these minute things then she can become even better.

But this doesn't mean that I support Maya for the wrong she does or blame Saanjh for something she isn't responsible for.

People may find Maya an intriguing character Coz her character has more layers , she is a complex character where there is so much scope for performance..on top of tha Jennifer's amazing performance...all these things can definitely make Maya a favourite character...but one must not justify every wrong act of the character.

Same way Saanjh is a simple girl next door kind of character...for some she might be boring...for some a nice character but again one can't justify if she does something wrong and one shoudl not scrutinise her and blame her for things she never committed.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Is Saanjh asking Samay to stay away from giving evidence in the court wrong?
Is it a criminal act?
Not at all!
Did she obstruct him? She asked him not to do!That is all! There is a big difference! Samay is an independent person with a free mind! He can decide his action! He is not obligated to favor anyone! Eventually if he decides a particular action, that is purely his decision & possibly prosecution would have requested him to do so! Even prosecution can not compel him to give evidence! He can always decline if forced by anyone!

Now, is she right in asking to do such a thing! There are two perspectives here!

Saanjh as a defense lawyer will pick & choose what is useful & helping her to win the case! She is a professional lawyer & obligated to favor only her client. Not any body else!
It is for the court & prosecution to apply their legal wisdom & assimilate the presentation made by defense!

Did Saanjh as an individual & not as a lawyer do a right thing when she asked Samay to help? Saanjh is in a relationship (may be, still under development) with Samay! if Arjun can blindly support his wife, why not Saanjh then, if she is going to marry Samay at some point of time in future?

It is her conviction that is important here for her!

She is convinced that Maya is a pathological Manipulator!
She has a very bitter experience to believe so!

Her close ties with Sharmas' family & knowledge of Ayaan's conduct makes her feel Ayaan is not capable of doing that!
Who can argue with her, if she listened to her conviction & decided to fight it out on the court legally?
She has not obstructed justice to maya here! She is not anyway going to oblige maya!
Nor maya is expecting her to do any favor!

If one tries to improve her winnability, it is called a tactical move!

Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Darling_


Saanjh is a criminal. Hiding a witness to manipulate the case is crime. Just because the judge didn't arrest her doesn't mean she's not a criminal. The same judge also didn't say anything hearing and Maya herself accepting her forcefully taking Arjun with her and injecting, etc.


Also, for Maya to get arrested for abducting Arjun, first Arjun himself needs to give consent to charge her and make her arrested. It's his call, not others. But he himself is fine with her and still loves her. So what crime when the victim himself has forgiven or/and fine with her?



So u r saying that coz Arjun didn't say anything so Maya is not a criminal...Let's assume if a rape victim doesn't report a crime coz she got scared hence the rapist is not a CRIMINAL.
If a husband beats his wife after getting drunk but wife is docile and doesn't report the crime coz she loves her husband so husband is not a criminal 😕
Maya is not a criminal as per u even after knowing that she tied , drugged Arjun , she not only tried to harm herself but also tried to harm her own mother as well ?

And coz Saanjh told Samay not to appear in court then she is a Criminal😕
Here she only told him..not forced him not to come ! Didn't abduct him or anything...Samay had told her that he will not come...wasn't it his own will too...or did Saanjh tied his hands and locked him up so he couldn't reach the court.

I have stated that Saanjh was wrong and foolish to ask Samay not to come...but calling her a criminal is far fetched !

As per ur logic
Samay is a criminal too coz he told Saanjh that he will not come to the court and wouldn't have come also if police hadn't caught him

Arjun will also be a criminal for lying in the witness box.

But Maya is innocent coz Arjun doesn't have a problem if he was drugged and tied 😕

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: manya_roy



Maaya did really wrong and yes she should be punished for whatever wrong she has done (whether we Maaya supporters like it or not) and should not be punished for the ones she hasn't .
Since the writers haven't shown anything clearly other than Arjun's abduction I would leave her with that.

Coming to Saanjh, trying to hold a eyewitness from going to court, or affecting his statement is a crime as per Indian Law.
As for the judge, I don't expect much. I mean she said "Ayaan Sharma ko jail ki saza sunai jaati hai"
She did not even mention the years, aisa lag raha hai poore zindagi ke liye jail bhej degi Ayaan ko 😆
So I am not surprised that the judge did not say anything to Saanjh.


Going by ur statement coz I don't have a very deep knowledge about indian law..Saanjh asked Samay not to appear in court..only asked...she did not force him...Samay is an individual who has his own conscience...he willingly agreed...so still Saanjh will be termed as a criminal for simply askING him not to come ?
She did not tie him up or made it impossible for him not to appear before court...Ultimately it was Samay's decision to not come in the court.
Also agree the entire court proceedings was a big joke.
But as far as I can tell Ayaan's punishment will be announced tomorrow.

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