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Posted: 8 years ago
#21
I am sorry, I am just gonna say it
"All those Saanjh supporters can't accept a single flaw in Saanjh although it is right there, this is what you call blind"

And before you fire me on the name of Maya, Maya should be punished for her wrongdoings.

But apparently your logic says Saanjh can hold a witness as she wants to win the case, that is tactics.

Well then you just implied through your logic that whatever Maya did is okay as she had a really bad past.
Whatever she did was tactics and not crime.

So congratulations people, Maaya has done nothing wrong, all Maaya haters, Saanjh supporters as well as neutral viewers have themselves accepted this through their amazing logic.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: lumos_31

@TheUnique We all love the way Jenny's portraying Maya. But there is a difference in loving an actor and the character she portrays. Yeah, when Jenny cries she makes u want to sympathise with maya. Does that mean u should sympathise with her or support the wrong things she does(especially when it is so clear that maya is cunning and manipulative)?

When she speaks to her ganesha, Maya becomes a child who is seeking forgiveness for a wrong act she is going to commit. It's almost always, 'how did u let this happen? Now I'm forced to do this.'

There are Jenny fans in this forum too who hate Maya and condemn her for her wrong actions (very few, but there are)

Agree Aneri's acting prowess is not as awesome as Jenny's. Totally agree with u on that. But, imo she's doing a fine job and her character doesn't deserve this kind of hate and namecalling. If an actor's acting is ur agenda of not liking a character, then kushal is weakest among the three. Why is he not receiving inappropriate name-calling from fans?

Again I'm specifying nobody is 'forcing' others to like Saanjh. Ppl question the double standards that Maya fans show when it comes to Maya and Saanjh which is so bloody evident in this forum.


When did I say I like Arjun? He's the worst of the lot. When people were feeling so sorry for him cuz Maya is torturing him so much then also I never supported him. He's shown to be stupid duffer . that's the reason he cannot see through Maya ...but most of the time I feel he's selfish self obsessed and doesn't let anyone or anything come in the way of his liking. If they try to come he will throw them away like dirt and insult them. I had also said he's a failure in all relations. Never a good brother a good son a good husband nor a good friend.
Maya is killing people (assuming not proved) for him... Saanjh is also acting crazy for him... Ayaan got involved in a rape case for him. ...Vandana is gonna go after Maya with a knife... all for whom? This Arjun. But is the guy even worth anyone's trouble that people are creating havoc for him! He changes colour like a chameleon ! He even lied in court under oath... I always felt even when people kept on saying how the poor thing is trapped by Maya ...how he wants to be with his family... But I felt when was he ever close to his family? It's his family and dusky that made him feel like a king but he never gave them bhao and took them for granted.
Kushal terrible expressions make him the least liked character of this show. The actor always looks too full of himself and arrogant... so I never felt sorry for him in his scenes.
Jenny can so well switch from one emotion to another within a second. .all her expressions is so clear that you are never at a doubt what she really feels! But Arjun! ..half the time I am confused what he really wants to emote!

With Maya Jenny had raised the bar so high that if u r not good enough it's clearly showing. Aneri is mediocre... Kushal is worst... Vandana OTT ..even Jhanvi isn't that good. Jhanvi is mostly about grace elegance but isn't that powerful an actress.

Rajesh khattar was at par with Maya but they killed him. Piyush is good but they are now giving him so less screen space ...& I hope the Simone Singh entering rumor is true... she is very powerful actress. I want these actors more with Jenny but sadly I don't know that's gonna happen or not. Jenny has a mediocre and a below average actor as leads with her ...so the impact they are trying to create of selfless love of Saanjh & innocent victim Arjun all these are not happening.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: anshvi



So u r saying that coz Arjun didn't say anything so Maya is not a criminal...Let's assume if a rape victim doesn't report a crime coz she got scared hence the rapist is not a CRIMINAL.
If a husband beats his wife after getting drunk but wife is docile and doesn't report the crime coz she loves her husband so husband is not a criminal 😕
Maya is not a criminal as per u even after knowing that she tied , drugged Arjun , she not only tried to harm herself but also tried to harm her own mother as well ?

And coz Saanjh told Samay not to appear in court then she is a Criminal😕
Here she only told him..not forced him not to come ! Didn't abduct him or anything...Samay had told her that he will not come...wasn't it his own will too...or did Saanjh tied his hands and locked him up so he couldn't reach the court.

I have stated that Saanjh was wrong and foolish to ask Samay not to come...but calling her a criminal is far fetched !

As per ur logic
Samay is a criminal too coz he told Saanjh that he will not come to the court and wouldn't have come also if police hadn't caught him

Arjun will also be a criminal for lying in the witness box.

But Maya is innocent coz Arjun doesn't have a problem if he was drugged and tied 😕


Please don't twist my words. Don't even compare rape victims not reporting crimes to Arjun. I didn't say she's not a criminal She's is, but again why is she criminal? Because of Arjun. He ALONE is the decider for it. Even police won't arrest her if he doesn't want. Rape victims don't report because they love their rapists and are fine with them. That's sick to compare even with this situation.

Again if he doesn't want to arrest her and love her crazily, who are we to decide to say arrest her when he himself doesnt want her in jail? It's like in show everyone wants to so called save arjun from maya even though he himself doesn't care and love her despite knowing all her manipulations and everything. In fact, even if she killed ashwin, he would've still supported her and love her because he himself wanted to kill him and was even find with Jhanvi knowing she killed Ashwin. And here members want to save him even though again he doesn't care. Maya can also arrest him for forcefully tying her to bed the whole night, but she doesn't. It's ArYa's problem, why do others have problem? I hated Arjun manhandling Maya so many times too, but Maya still loves him, so I am okay with it. Not that I justify the manhandling, but it's her choice. I hate her for putting cameras like that and injecting him, but he's still okay with her. Again his choice. Then who are we? They are in love. Blind or crazy, they are fine with each other.

Yes, Samay is a criminal too. So is Arjun for lying and so is Saanjh. Actually in this show everyone has commited crimes. Only Prem, Suman, and Shubh haven't.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: anshvi



So u r saying that coz Arjun didn't say anything so Maya is not a criminal...Let's assume if a rape victim doesn't report a crime coz she got scared hence the rapist is not a CRIMINAL.
If a husband beats his wife after getting drunk but wife is docile and doesn't report the crime coz she loves her husband so husband is not a criminal 😕
Maya is not a criminal as per u even after knowing that she tied , drugged Arjun , she not only tried to harm herself but also tried to harm her own mother as well ?

And coz Saanjh told Samay not to appear in court then she is a Criminal😕
Here she only told him..not forced him not to come ! Didn't abduct him or anything...Samay had told her that he will not come...wasn't it his own will too...or did Saanjh tied his hands and locked him up so he couldn't reach the court.

I have stated that Saanjh was wrong and foolish to ask Samay not to come...but calling her a criminal is far fetched !

As per ur logic
Samay is a criminal too coz he told Saanjh that he will not come to the court and wouldn't have come also if police hadn't caught him

Arjun will also be a criminal for lying in the witness box.

But Maya is innocent coz Arjun doesn't have a problem if he was drugged and tied 😕


Twisted logic 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: manya_roy

I am sorry, I am just gonna say it
"All those Saanjh supporters can't accept a single flaw in Saanjh although it is right there, this is what you call blind"

And before you fire me on the name of Maya, Maya should be punished for her wrongdoings.

But apparently your logic says Saanjh can hold a witness as she wants to win the case, that is tactics.

Well then you just implied through your logic that whatever Maya did is okay as she had a really bad past.
Whatever she did was tactics and not crime.

So congratulations people, Maaya has done nothing wrong, all Maaya haters, Saanjh supporters as well as neutral viewers have themselves accepted this through their amazing logic.

A person can be held 'criminal' or 'punishable under law' only if the person breaks a law!
Saanjh is having a conversation with Samay & then if they agree on it, they are not breaking a law!
I am reiterating once again - Samay as an individual has to decide what he is supposed to do! Any one can give him any advice or suggestion!
If he is physically restrained & not capable of following his free will, then it is crime!
It is an obstruction of justice as free will or movement of person in this case may be crucial!
It did not happen that way!
I hope it is understood!
Well, I did not comment on Maya's actions -except gave a PoV of Saanjh- If Saanjh thinks Maya is a manipulator then it is her opinion!
If she thinks physically restraining Arjun is wrong & a criminal activity it is for her to argue her case!
However court did not take a view on the 'physical restraints of Arjun', because that was besides the focus of case!
Edited by Fernandes43 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: manya_roy

I am sorry, I am just gonna say it
"All those Saanjh supporters can't accept a single flaw in Saanjh although it is right there, this is what you call blind"

And before you fire me on the name of Maya, Maya should be punished for her wrongdoings.

But apparently your logic says Saanjh can hold a witness as she wants to win the case, that is tactics.

Well then you just implied through your logic that whatever Maya did is okay as she had a really bad past.
Whatever she did was tactics and not crime.

So congratulations people, Maaya has done nothing wrong, all Maaya haters, Saanjh supporters as well as neutral viewers have themselves accepted this through their amazing logic.


Kehte hai na
'Let a hundred guilty be acquitted, but one innocent should not be convicted'

Saanjh tried to SAVE an innocent while Maya tried to CONVICT an innocent.
So here the difference between them is their motive. That is why people are supporting Saanjh. Saanjh did not manipulate Samay and she did not plan anything behind him to stop him from coming to court, but she directly told him not to come to court.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: _Darling_


Please don't twist my words. Don't even compare rape victims not reporting crimes to Arjun. I didn't say she's not a criminal She's is, but again why is she criminal? Because of Arjun. He ALONE is the decider for it. Even police won't arrest her if he doesn't want. Rape victims don't report because they love their rapists and are fine with them. That's sick to compare even with this situation.

Again if he doesn't want to arrest her and love her crazily, who are we to decide to say arrest her when he himself doesnt want her in jail? It's like in show everyone wants to so called save arjun from maya even though he himself doesn't care and love her despite knowing all her manipulations and everything. In fact, even if she killed ashwin, he would've still supported her and love her because he himself wanted to kill him and was even find with Jhanvi knowing she killed Ashwin. And here members want to save him even though again he doesn't care. Maya can also arrest him for forcefully tying her to bed the whole night, but she doesn't. It's ArYa's problem, why do others have problem? I hated Arjun manhandling Maya so many times too, but Maya still loves him, so I am okay with it. Not that I justify the manhandling, but it's her choice. I hate her for putting cameras like that and injecting him, but he's still okay with her. Again his choice. Then who are we? They are in love. Blind or crazy, they are fine with each other.

Yes, Samay is a criminal too. So is Arjun for lying and so is Saanjh. Actually in this show everyone has commited crimes. Only Prem, Suman, and Shubh haven't.


Firstly I never said Maya's should be arrested or not ..that was not the point...I said her acts should be termed Criminal Coz tying someone and drugging someone is a crime.
Arjun reporting it or not was not the point...point was wasn't what Maya did a criminal activity !
Arjun reporting it or not is not the case !

Also read my examples u have combined my 2 examples into one.

Secondly
If Arjun is okay with it so whatever Maya does cannot justified.
Drugging someone , tying them up , emotionally blackmailing someone by attempting suicide and trying to burn ur own mother along with urself only to stop ur husband from leaving you is WRONG and all these are criminal activities
For me these are wrong ! Absolutely wrong ! Whether they get reported or not does not make these activities right !

Yes I agree all characters are flawed in this show...and that is why one needs to stop supporting even the wrong doings of their favourite characters be it anyone.

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Posted: 8 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: tanuveer

I really feel that it is the blind love for jenni which makes people blind to the characters wrong doings. Aneri is not having jenni range...thats y people fail to recognise the good and bad...or fail to admit bad even after aknowledging it.

If Saanjh role was played by another well known actress the equllibrium would have changed.An actress who has huge fandom playing saanjh role will guve morw impact to saanjh.
I think thats the reason.Otherwise I cant understand how people blindly defend wrong.


Seems to be true😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
#29

I am unable to comprehend this logic at all 😕 twisted indeed

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Posted: 8 years ago
#30
One should speak out if he or she does not agree with the action of a character, raising above loyalties! Appreciate the actor for her talent/skills/performance! But never hesitate to take a critical view if it does not agree with one's own moral or ethical values or legal understanding!
This is my humble opinion which I don't wish to impose on others! Every one has a freedom to express what they perceive right!

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