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Posted: 8 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Fernandes43


It is her conviction that is important here for her!

She is convinced that Maya is a pathological Manipulator!
She has a very bitter experience to believe so!

Her close ties with Sharmas' family & knowledge of Ayaan's conduct makes her feel Ayaan is not capable of doing that!
Who can argue with her, if she listened to her conviction & decided to fight it out on the court legally?
She has not obstructed justice to maya here! She is not anyway going to oblige maya!
Nor maya is expecting her to do any favor!

If one tries to improve her winnability, it is called a tactical move!



she knows maya's real face , she saw it in holi track so she know maya ka brain kitna cunning n twisted hai so why will she believe on maya n not ayaan ? dis forum ki halat dekh ke muje samajh ata hai y log dark cruel abusive heroes ko support karte hain , bhai if evil maya can gather dis huge support so baaki sab bacche hai front of her.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: _Darling_





Please don't twist my words. Don't even compare rape victims not reporting crimes to Arjun. I didn't say she's not a criminal She's is, but again why is she criminal? Because of Arjun. He ALONE is the decider for it. Even police won't arrest her if he doesn't want. Rape victims don't report because they love their rapists and are fine with them. That's sick to compare even with this situation.

Again if he doesn't want to arrest her and love her crazily, who are we to decide to say arrest her when he himself doesnt want her in jail? It's like in show everyone wants to so called save arjun from maya even though he himself doesn't care and love her despite knowing all her manipulations and everything. In fact, even if she killed ashwin, he would've still supported her and love her because he himself wanted to kill him and was even find with Jhanvi knowing she killed Ashwin. And here members want to save him even though again he doesn't care. Maya can also arrest him for forcefully tying her to bed the whole night, but she doesn't. It's ArYa's problem, why do others have problem? I hated Arjun manhandling Maya so many times too, but Maya still loves him, so I am okay with it. Not that I justify the manhandling, but it's her choice. I hate her for putting cameras like that and injecting him, but he's still okay with her. Again his choice. Then who are we? They are in love. Blind or crazy, they are fine with each other.

Yes, Samay is a criminal too. So is Arjun for lying and so is Saanjh. Actually in this show everyone has commited crimes. Only Prem, Suman, and Shubh haven't.


WHAT? Do you even make any sense?Rape victims most often don't come out for fear of life-long societal ostracization not because they're in love with the rapists🤢 Regardless of what the victims feel about a crime, a crime is a CRIME. Just because Arjun now is seemingly giving in to Maya's actions doesn't mean Maya isn't a criminal in the eyes of the law. It has got nothing to do with what Arjun feels about Maya.

No wonder you find Maya such a well written character *coughs melodramatically*
Edited by CaputDraconis - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: CaputDraconis


WHAT? Do you even make any sense?Rape victims most often don't come out because of societal ostracization not because they're in love with the rapists🤢 Regardless of what the victims feel about a crime, a crime is a CRIME. Just because Arjun now is seemingly giving in to Maya's actions doesn't mean Maya isn't a criminal in the eyes of the law. It has got nothing to do with what Arjun feels about Maya.

No wonder you find Maya such a well written character *coughs melodramatically*


I was baffled to read the views and logic here ! How can someone say that if Arjun doesn't mind then all is fine and Maya is not a criminal and didn't commit any crime...this is ArYa matter and we should let them deal with it...all is fine until Arjun has a problem !

If these aren't criminal activities then what is...saying that if a crime is not reported then it is not a crime ! This is a very illogical statement to say the least !

Supporting Maya's actions of tying , drugging , mentally torturing Arjun is so illogical and wrong ! How can someone support and justify these actions of Maya.

I am unable to comprehend this logic at all
Edited by anshvi - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#44
Ayaan should have been tried for assault not rape. If possible, I hope Saanjh and Ayaan approach someone more experienced to get the case reopened.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: CaputDraconis


WHAT? Do you even make any sense?Rape victims most often don't come out for fear of life-long societal ostracization not because they're in love with the rapists🤢 Regardless of what the victims feel about a crime, a crime is a CRIME. Just because Arjun now is seemingly giving in to Maya's actions doesn't mean Maya isn't a criminal in the eyes of the law. It has got nothing to do with what Arjun feels about Maya.

No wonder you find Maya such a well written character *coughs melodramatically*


I agree with you. You have misunderstood me. I am saying the same that victims don't report because they love their rapists or did with them. They have different reasons to not report as you said. So that and this is extremely different. It's insensitive to compare such sensitive issue like rape to Arjun's case.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: anshvi


I was baffled to read the views and logic here ! How can someone say that if Arjun doesn't mind then all is fine and Maya is not a criminal and didn't commit any crime...this is ArYa matter and we should let them deal with it...all is fine until Arjun has a problem !

If these aren't criminal activities then what is...saying that if a crime is not reported then it is not a crime ! This is a very illogical statement to say the least !

Supporting Maya's actions of tying , drugging , mentally torturing Arjun is so illogical and wrong ! How can someone support and justify these actions of Maya.

I am unable to comprehend this logic at all


Why are you keep misunderstanding? First you brought a sensitive issue like rape to compare to this issue. How can Arjun's issue be even compared to extreme cases like rape victims? Rape victims don't report because of fear, the society, etc. Not because they love the rapists. That's sick to compare.

Here Arjun loves Maya though and that's why he isn't reporting. Not because he has fear or anything. No one said she's not criminal. But in case of Maya, Arjun himself is fine with her. And where did i justify Mayas injecting him like that? I dont justify either of them. He has manhandled her many times and even hurt her physically in the process even if he did it unintentionally, and she is mentally torturing him and then forcefully took him. My point is they themselves don't care.
They love each other and tolerating everything even If they fight and all, but others in the show or here have more problem with it then they themselves do.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: _Darling_


I agree with you. You have misunderstood me. I am saying the same that victims don't report because they love their rapists or did with them. They have different reasons to not report as you said. So that and this is extremely different. It's insensitive to compare such sensitive issue like rape to Arjun's case.


Plz understand the examples and that the point here is if a crime is not reported then the one who did it is not a criminal ?
If a rape victim doesn't report a crime coz of fear of society then it does not mean that the rapist is NOT A CRIMINAL and a crime did not happen
If a drunkard husband beats his wife but the wife doesn't report it coz of family pressure or coz she loves her husband doesn't mean that the husband is not a criminal and didn't commit a crime
Coz as per ur post this is the case.
Tying , drugging , mentally torturing someone all are criminal activities and it does not matter whether Arjun report it or not..this will not change the fact that these will remain criminal activities and cannot be justified like u did in ur post in any case.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: anshvi


Plz understand the examples and that the point here is if a crime is not reported then the one who did it is not a criminal ?
If a rape victim doesn't report a crime coz of fear of society then it does not mean that the rapist is NOT A CRIMINAL and a crime did not happen
If a drunkard husband beats his wife but the wife doesn't report it coz of family pressure or coz she loves her husband doesn't mean that the husband is not a criminal and didn't commit a crime
Coz as per ur post this is the case.
Tying , drugging , mentally torturing someone all are criminal activities and it does not matter whether Arjun report it or not..this will not change the fact that these will remain criminal activities and cannot be justified like u did in ur post in any case.


Bold - first tell me where did I If a crime is not reported, then who did is not a criminal?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: _Darling_


Why are you keep misunderstanding? First you brought a sensitive issue like rape to compare to this issue. How can Arjun's issue be even compared to extreme cases like rape victims? Rape victims don't report because of fear, the society, etc. Not because they love the rapists. That's sick to compare.

Here Arjun loves Maya though and that's why he isn't reporting. Not because he has fear or anything. No one said she's not criminal. But in case of Maya, Arjun himself is fine with her. And where did i justify Mayas injecting him like that? I dont justify either of them. He has manhandled her many times and even hurt her physically in the process even if he did it unintentionally, and she is mentally torturing him and then forcefully took him. My point is they themselves don't care.
They love each other and tolerating everything even If they fight and all, but others in the show or here have more problem with it then they themselves do.


Where have I said the illogical thing that a rape victim loves a rapist that is simply gross.
Go and read my post first !
I will repeat a crime whether reported or not will remain a crime no matter what.
Here what Maya did cannot be justified whether Arjun report it or not !
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Posted: 8 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: anshvi


Where have I said the illogical thing that a rape victim loves a rapist that is simply gross.
Go and read my post first !
I will repeat a crime whether reported or not will remain a crime no matter what.
Here what Maya did cannot be justified whether Arjun report it or not !


It's gross, but you yourself compared the situations together. May be you didn't mean that way but that's how it comes across. And I think you are misunderstanding me too.

See rape victims don't report. Why? Because they fear the society and most of the reasons we already know.

Do they love the rapists or have forgiven them? No. So why are you even comparing to this situation?

Also, do you believe a person is a criminal even if the person whom the person did crime against has forgiven that person?

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