Maya's Man - Arjun and Samay

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Posted: 8 years ago
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So today's episode finally showed Arjun confessing the truth of his and Maya's relationship to Ayaan. And what was that truth??? Well nothing that we don't already know. So apparently his issue with Maya is exactly what he has been harping about all this while. Nothing more to it.😕 . He is just frustrated and suffocated by her controlling behavior and the fact that he does not have the freedom to do ANYTHING. Ok fair enough, any sane person would feel that way if they were controlled to this extent by someone. Maya is completely wrong in doing what she is doing.

BUT what I don't understand is WHY has Arjun not even tried to UNDERSTAND why Maya is the way she is and WHY has he not tried to get her help?? I am not talking about understanding her NOW or trying to help her NOW, because obviously 3 years is a long time to be in such an unhealthy relationship and right now he is DONE with her and doesn't really care about helping her anymore. What I am talking about is maybe 6 months into their marriage, or 1 year into their marriage, whenever he started seeing signs of this unnatural control, when she first installed the CCTvs around the house, when she first harmed herself, when she tried to commit suicide the first time...Did he stop, take a step back and try to understand what was wrong with her? Why she was THIS insecure about losing him?? Obviously trying to kill yourself at a drop of a hat is not normal behavior, so did he consider consulting a psychiatrist to understand her condition?? Did he try to reason with her, make her feel more secure, understand why she din't trust him, do something to instill that trust?? Did he try to get her any sort of medical help at all??

Maya needed someone in her life who could stand up to her and tell her that she was wrong, who could control her and force her to get help for her issues, who could give her the security she craved. Jhanvi could never be that person because she was too scared of Maya and too guilty to stand up to her. Arjun should and could have been that person for Maya. He is strong willed enough to stand up to her if needed, has enough emotional control over her to make her do what he wants to if he really wanted to, I mean she would gladly jump from a cliff if he lovingly asked her to so what would stop him from using that control he has on her to make her go see a doctor or stop installing CCtvs etc?. Arjun was the only one in the position to actually do something for her but the question is DID HE?? Did he ever do any of this before giving up and deciding to end the relationship???? 😕

If he did try all this and failed then I can empathize with with him. But if he did not, if he simply got frustrated and decided to walk out then I don't think I can really empathize with him anymore. Today, the way he spoke about getting fed up and telling Maya that he wanted to leave was as if he was talking about handing over his resignation to his boss. Like the way he said that he told Maya that he was not going to be able to handle all this and wanted to leave...makes him sound like such a selfish, careless and irresponsible husband. I am not sure I can feel sorry for him, if he has not even made an attempt to save his marriage and the woman he claims to have loved.

Also, how easy was it for everyone to forgive each other in spite of so much happening between them??? Some half hearted sorry's, some dancing was all that was needed for everything to be forgiven and forgotten?? 😕 No one felt the need to sit and TALK and discuss what actually happened in these 3 years and where everyone went wrong?? 😳
Arjun's sorrys sounded like he was doing everyone a favour by apologizing. He seemed to be more concerned about Ayaan selling his jeep than listening to how Ayaan had to struggle for money in Arjun's absence. He was more interested in eating Aloo Paratha than catching up with his mother on what had happened in these 3 years.

Arjun claimed that he stuck with Maya all this while because he was scared she would harm herself and/or the people close to him. So what changed now?? Is he no longer scared for her or his family?? Or was that reason humbug, and the actual reason he was not leaving her was that his EGO was too big to accept his mistake and take that first step towards reconciling with everyone?? And now that Dusky was back to act as the mediator and save him the trouble of showing some maturity, he decides to go ahead and reunite with his family. 😕

Honestly whatever sympathy I had for Arjun after seeing his condition a few episodes ago has gone down the drain in the last 2 episodes. I hope the CVs plan to show that he did at least try to help Maya and at least tried to be a sensitive, understanding husband. If not, I don't think I can route for him at all.

Another interesting point is that once again we are told that alcohol makes a person speak the truth (atleast in beyhadhland) and then Arjun spills out all his secrets to Ayan to prove that point. So then are we to assume that everything Arjun has told till now when he was drunk is also the truth?? If that is the case then it means Arjun did marry Maya for money and considered her as his shortcut to success. Also, Arjun always loved Saanjh even when he was married to Maya. He said both these things while he was drunk.

If both these things are true then can we really call Arjun the victim here???


Honestly, I don't know what to make of Samay yet. He seems to be obsessed with Maya but then that leaves so many unanswered questions, if he so obsessed with her then where was he for 8 years?? Why has he not tried to contact her before?? Why did he chose to pose as Saanjh's boyfriend to get to Maya? He could have just landed up in maya's office like he did the other day and nothing would have changed. Not like being Saanjh's bf gets him exclusive access to Maya. Also, it looks like he cheated Maya (professionally? personally?) 8 years ago. Why would he do that if he was in love with her then? Also, Maya does not seem to be buying his obsessed lover act..why is that?? She must have her reasons to not believe him. So many unanswered questions.

His Smirk today also leaves the door open to the possibility that he might be faking the obsessed lover persona. Some of his dialogues to Maya seem too OTT to be genuine. If he is faking it then WHY?? To take revenge from maya? To help Arjun? To help Saanjh?

There so many unknowns when it comes to Samay that it adds an intrigue and mystery to his character. His character and his equation with Maya is what is currently holding my interest in the show. Which way they take his character and what effect it has on Maya, I think is going to determine how the story moves forward.

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ishakumar thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well said!!!
I have exactly the same thoughts!!!
There are so many questions to be answered and I can't wait!!!

Must say that the creatives are doing a great job to keep us interested in knowing more!
I feel like Maya may suffer from retrograde amnesia in the coming episodes, but this is just a prediction.

Did arjun actually say that he loved Saanjh tho?
I thought he said I loved Maya and she ended up killing me alive
Something about the khulaadi, that I loved the khulaadi but I hurt myself or something
Edited by ishakumar - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ya lots of unanswered questions... Don't know whom to believe whom not to. But after watching today's episode lost full hope on Arjun. He is hopeless. Maya is unlucky she married him. And I don't think he loves dusky. His reactions / feelings have not changed I feel. Still treats her like friend and is least impacted by her bf samay. No jealousy nothing.
Let's see how he reacts when he gets to know abt Maya n samay. Will b interesting to watch saanjh s reaction also.

Why this samay guy didn't t reach her for 8 yrs?? Really a mystery.. may b he thought she is happy. But now she is losing it. So he wud have Come back. This guy genuinely loves Maya I guess.

Arjun is so complex. U love Maya or no????? I feel Maya is the victim here. Really felt bad for her today. She doesn't deserve this pain. As u said Arjun has never tried to fix his marriage...But only wants to run away from problems. Worst husband. I don't pity him anymore.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Yup! Yup! Yup! Arjun is not a character that's gonna get a lot of sympathy no matter how much he whines. Very well said - if a drunk man speaks the truth then it must be true that Maya's money was a big part of the reason Arjun was attracted to Maya.. He loved the package but not the terms and conditions that came with it.. Glad you pointed out the almost effortless, easy way Arjun reconciled with his family.. That's how most parents are I guess.. no matter how wrong the child is, one hug and few tears and they are ready to forgive and forget everything.. Arjun totally exploited that sentiment with his mother.. ofcourse the fact that he didn't even get to eat aloo parathas in three years added to the whole emotional quotient. With Ayaan, he was more like his true self I guess.. too much ego to apologize twice so just be happy that I am atleast making an effort here k? world is too mean to Arjun Sharma. Wife who doesn't let him pee in peace, eat what he likes and brother who sold off his dhanno! So what if the money helped his brother buy his application form. What?? they were in financial crisis when Arjun was living like a king?😲 Who wants to know all that? Just get him aloo paratha and some booze! 😃

About Samay, I have similar feelings.. But I don't think he is here to help Arjun or Saanjh .. Getting close to Saanjh, does actually increase his chances of access to Maya.. Minus Saanjh, he can stalk her but she can easily get restraining orders , moreover he won't have any natural obvious reason to see her without raising an alarm.. With Saanjh, he knows her too well.. he has pushed her towards Arjun knowing she will re-unite the families - Arjun's family ( includes Maya unfortunately for him ) and Sharma/Mathur's familes ( include him i.e Samay ). Knowing Maya she will not leave Arjun to meet family alone.. so that increases their chances of meeting and maybe expose some truths or show some facts that suit his purpose.
Edited by MistyDawn - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i agree with your post.
without a doubt, maya needs help. i accept that she has made their marriage unhealthy and Arjun has a right to leave but i feel as a husband he should have found a solution to help Maya. i'm sure he is aware maya needs help, likewise he needs to remember that mayas past had a negative influence on her adulthood.
research by NSPPC and other organisations have found intriguing evidence that children who have been a victim of domestic abuse in their childhood stage display form of aggressive and emotional behavior in their adulthood and this is exactly what Maya is showing. she can be aggressive and at the same time show emotional behavior whether its legit or not. There is help ! but Arjun as a husband needs to support her.

sadly i personally feel Saanjh, Ayaan, Vandana and Samay will help Arjun to part away from Maya, i feel instead of helping they will find divorce as a better option but i feel it will make things worse.

Coming to Samay, he is starting to show his grey shade character. i feel he will create a lot of trouble in Maya and Arjuns life. Samay is also showing his obsessive side.

Samay may be a grey character but i feel he is probably the one who can cure Maya. with Samay being to obsessed and possessive over Maya it will make maya realize she is doing the same thing to Arjun and hopefully she can change that bad habit of hers.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ishakumar

Well said!!!
I have exactly the same thoughts!!!
There are so many questions to be answered and I can't wait!!!

Must say that the creatives are doing a great job to keep us interested in knowing more!
I feel like Maya may suffer from retrograde amnesia in the coming episodes, but this is just a prediction.

Did arjun actually say that he loved Saanjh tho?
I thought he said I loved Maya and she ended up killing me alive
Something about the khulaadi, that I loved the khulaadi but I hurt myself or something


Arjun din't say he loved Saanjh today. I was talking about the pre-leap pub scene where he gets drunk and tells Saanjh that he loves her. What I was trying to say is that if they are trying to say that drunk men don't lie then that would automatically mean all the things told by Arjun while he was drunk before is also the truth.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yup! Yup! Yup! Arjun is not a character that's gonna get a lot of sympathy no matter how much he whines. Very well said - if a drunk man speaks the truth then it must be true that Maya's money was a big part of the reason Arjun was attracted to Maya.. He loved the package but not the terms and conditions that came with it.. Glad you pointed out the almost effortless, easy way Arjun reconciled with his family.. That's how most parents are I guess.. no matter how wrong the child is, one hug and few tears and they are ready to forgive and forget everything.. Arjun totally exploited that sentiment with his mother.. ofcourse the fact that he didn't even get to eat aloo parathas in three years added to the whole emotional quotient. With Ayaan, he was more like his true self I guess.. too much ego to apologize twice so just be happy that I am atleast making an effort here k? world is too mean to Arjun Sharma. Wife who doesn't let him pee in peace, eat what he likes and brother who sold off his dhanno! So what if the money helped his brother buy his application form. What?? they were in financial crisis when Arjun was living like a king?😲 Who wants to know all that? Just get him aloo paratha and some booze! 😃

About Samay, I have similar feelings.. But I don't think he is here to help Arjun or Saanjh .. Getting close to Saanjh, does actually increase his chances of access to Maya.. Minus Saanjh, he can stalk her but she can easily get restraining orders , moreover he won't have any natural obvious reason to see her without raising an alarm.. With Saanjh, he knows her too well.. he has pushed her towards Arjun knowing she will re-unite the families - Arjun's family ( includes Maya unfortunately for him ) and Sharma/Mathur's familes ( include him i.e Samay ). Knowing Maya she will not leave Arjun to meet family alone.. so that increases their chances of meeting and maybe expose some truths or show some facts that suit his purpose.


Agree completely with the part about Arjun.😃

About Samay, now that I think about it again, you're right, being close to Saanjh does give him access to all the information about the happenings in Maya's life. He may be able to meet Maya without Saanjh's help but even if Maya refuses to meet him, thanks to the Saanjh-Arjun connection he will always know what Maya is up to.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with you completely. Arjun today poured out his heart to Ayaan and now we all know his major problem in this marriage, is he's feeling suffocated due to Maya's controlling nature and his freedom being terminated.
But before marrying her wasn't Arjun very much aware of her nature! He had once told Saanjh that he felt like a pressure cooker been kept on his head when with Maya.
If drunk people indeed confess all the truth then we can safely say Arjun Sharna had married Maya for her money as that was his short cut to his dreams. Maybe he had thought he would handle Maya and she would just afford him all the luxuries and he could cheat with Saanjh on the side... cuz a drunk Arjun had also confessed his love for Saanjh.
I have said many times before Arjun is the most insensitive self obsessed selfish person of this show. If Maya's illness cannot be a cause enough for her to get all the sympathies then I don't see why a selfish Arjun who just uses people to achieve what he wants should be pitied at! He got into this mess with full knowledge... but he thought he could fool Maya and that's where he went wrong.
Arjun came across as a must irresponsible husband jise Maya ki paise se toh pyar hai but jab he had to take responsibilities of trying to help Maya by talking to her or getting help for her he did nothing. 3years he never tried to contact his family... with whom he started dancing that ridiculous dance ...I have always maintained Arjun Sharma was a failure in all his relations... son, brother, friend, husband ..in all he failed. Ek rishta bhi usne thik se nahi nibhaya ! I never felt sorry for him earlier and now his confession to Ayaan made me dislike him even more.

Samay looks to be totally engrossed with Maya. He was looking like an outsider in that Sharma & Mathur family circus. From the time he got to know that Maya left him for London ..he had that dismal look on his face. While Arjun Sharma treats Maya like a dirt ... he has no complaints regarding enjoying her money...that he got out of daan not hard work... this guy approves of everything Maya does.
According to me almost all people in Maya's life are useless when it comes to helping her. Arjun jhanvi Ashwin Samay all failed her.

We have seen what Jhanvi is capable of doing with her freedom. She goes straight to Ashwin who fed her sweets which is fatal for her... if Maya had not taken care of her she would have been dead by now.
Maya's insecurities and controlling nature has obviously developed from all these worthless humans who surrounded her.
Not even one sensible person is there in her life who could show her where she went wrong... who could get help for her... who she could trust cuz both jhanvi and Arjun broke her trust several times... She has never felt secure in her entire life.

What I found amusing was Vandy's bholi bhali would be bahu Simmi loves to booze! This is the stark truth... we love to believe the hypocrisy . I say this cuz during ArYa sangeet when Jhanvi was dancing and drinking Vandy mata looked horrified seeing her sambandh drink... & Now her would be DIL drinks. ...drinking is not a problem here but Vandy's low mentality and her judgemental attitude is.
When Maya was the reason that Arjun came closer to Vandy she never acknowledged it or ever thanked her but git treated like dirt... Now Saanjh brought Arjun to meet her and she's all smiles.
Edited by TheUnique - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@sweetshruti beautiful post dear and I completely agree to you. Arjun is not a victim. He knew about Maya's controls before. He knew her vulnerable side also. So when he started feeling suffocated why didnt he seek medical help for Maya. See he had done something for Jhanvi, but why not for Maya.
If what he tells in drunken state is true, did he want Maya to die in such a way so that no finger is pointed at him, then cut a sob story and marry Saanjh. As I will take to him marrying Maya for money and loving Saanjh to be true.
Is he much a darker player than we thought him to be. He says in FB to Ayan on wedding day he is a PHd in telling lies. He expects everyone to wait for him. And yes they indulge him the way he wants. VM and Saanjh ever willing to fall at his feet.

Samay is an interesting character. I feel he cares for Maya though some of this talks are over the top at his heart he cares for her. Because his musings about Maya are genuine. If we remember we had never got such intense musings from Arjun for Maya.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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That's true
He should have taken her to a good psychiatrist very next day when she tried to harm herself. It's easier to do hands up when your spouse is mentally disturb, but hard to be with him/her forever.

But, what if he tried everything in all these years, but nothing worked. I would recommend not to leave your partner becoz of illness, that's real test of your loyalty, but Maya is something else, she's extream. When she's mad, she doesn't know one good limit and probably kill anyone, and when she's not mad, she starts living in her delusional land where there's nothing wrong with her marriage.

What if Arjun suggested to take help, but Maya refused. You can't drag someone to psychiatrist clinic. As I have said before in case of mental disorder self realisation is must.

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