A Toxic Relationship

Originally posted by: .Piyali.

So I know what's going to happen after I post this (probably first and last post) because I've been reading posts on this forum frequently. You're all going to hate me and tell me what an amazing person Maya is and deserves so much and is never at fault. I'm all prepared and I'm always up for a healthy debate (meaning no bashing and personal comments) so go ahead. Okay anyways message over, let's get to the point of this.

In no realistic situation should Maya and Arjun ever end up together. They have a toxic relationship which is destroying both of them and will continue to do so in the future. There relationship was never based on love in my opinion. For Maya it was infatuation which did got into love for a while but has stretched into obsession. In Arjun's cases I guess it was lust mixed with love for money and maybe a little bit of actual love but not much. They were never ready for marriage and still aren't. They had a honeymoon phase which itself wasn't very great and then it spiraled.

Maya is mentally ill and is suffering from PTSD and probably has attachment issues. She needs love, I agree, but more than that right now she needs counselling. The loves she need itself is quite different. She needs a selfless, unconditional love which Arjun cannot give. Arjun can never and will never understand Maya because he is still very immature. He cannot deal with someone who has faced trauma. Maya can become fine, it's true. But not through love. She needs counselling, as I said before, maybe some anti-depression pills.

I've already mentioned Arjun is immature but he is also very self-involved. He doesn't see past his own self and his own life. He doesn't see Maya's insecurities (i.e the holi dance with Saanjh) nor can he empathize with her trauma. He saved her once and Maya immediately though he'll be her savior. He won't be. Arjun is not that person. He is not mature enough or good-hearted enough to accept Maya's obsession. He, and I know you'll all hate me when I say this, needs someone like Saanjh. Saanjh has no demons or skeletons in the closet. She is a very simple girl with no tragic past. She is easy to deal with and has not trauma. (Go ahead and bash, I came prepared). She is in a sense ideal for Arjun who still need to learn how to give without only recieving. Whether Arjun is ideal for Saanjh is a different story.

Saajnh can work with receiving little from Arjun and giving a lot back but Maya gives a lot and she needs to receive a lot back. No that does not make Saanjh's love selfless and Maya selfish. It just means they have differnt priorities. That all relates to the past really. Saanjh has always had people who love her. Her parents, brother, Vandana, Ayan and at the end of it all Arjun and now Samay have always been behind her. She get love from all of them in bits. Maya hasn't had the same pleasure and so she expects more from those she does have (i.e Arjun).

Let's get into the broken mariage between ArYa now. Arjun is violent (as far as we know) and that is a huge issue. In no circumstance is domestic violence ever appropriate. However he didn't ruin the marriage from the beginning. He's destroying it now, yes but the cracks were developed by Maya. No one deals well with suffocation and that is exactly what Maya has done. She has separated Arjun from everyone and then suffocated him in her love. Arjun was a free bird and Maya has now become his cage. He's miserable and yes it is Maya's fault. All those cameras everywhere cannot possibly be easy to deal with. The domestic violence however need to stop immediately.

You know in all honesty I find it funny that everyone called Saanjh obsessive because for the most simplest things. But here, in my opinion at least, Maya's doing even worse and hers it titled as true love. It's not. Saanjh is not perfect. She made a bunch of mistakes (i.e the holi dance) but I wouldn't say she was obsessive. She did try to be supportive for ArYa at a point. She is not dudh ke dhule but I will say this, she is not obsessive at also. Maya is a good person but her past has effected her. She IS obsessive of Arjun because of that past. It's not her fault but she is not ready to be in a relationship with someone like Arjun. She needs someone selfless like Sidharth from Jamai Raja.

They're in a toxic relationship. They're not good for each other. Maya needs help for her trauma and Arjun needs to grow up. It's a disaster in the making. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's sentiments but that's my opinion. Especially now, I look at ArYa all I see is pain and hurt in their future if they stay together. They both have different needs.

Before anyone asks, I don't ship either couple too much. In my opinion, Arjun doesn't deserve Saanjh. He treats her like a toy that he can throw away and then play with whenever he wants. But I stand by my point. Arjun and Maya cannot be happy together realistically. They are a toxic relationship.

Again apologies, if I hurt your feelings. If you want to debate (politely) I'm up for it. If you choose to bash me or any of the character, I most certainly won't respond. But thanks for reading, even if you disagree.

- Piyali

While I generally agree with you, the following is my view:
Trust is the key for building a time-tested lasting relationship

Be it love or friendship or for that mater a simple business deal!

On the other hand, lack of trust creates either jealousy or sense of insecurity. And such relations are just flash in the pan & quickly die down.

Even physical attraction or material interests won't work long!

ArYa's love is doomed from the beginning as it evolved not by trust or conviction but simply achieved by manipulation.
Maya's extreme sense of insecurity will never let her trust anyone, even Arjun. CCTVs micro phones etc are case in point.
Yes! she will hold on to him by obsession. And that is not love! And it will be only painful!

Their love had every other thing physical charm, material interest & sense of insecurity (opposite of trust/conviction!) and naturally failed the test of time!
This is the problem of Maya-Arjun couple!

Maya will soon face Saanjh Samay ( meaning twilight before darkness) in her marital iife!

When the darkness descends, she will take a beyhadh roop!

Having come out of a toxic relationship myself, I know how devastating it is. I think not many people here had experienced it, but it's the worst thing that can happen to a person, believe me when I say it.

And here the relationship is not only toxic but Maya is a full-fledged psycho with little to no moral boundaries. She has attempted to kill, if not killed already. Arjun is immature and insensitive plus he's been so easy-going that nobody ever cornered him and challeged him like that. He just dosn't know what to do and how to proceed from here on. Accordiong to a spoiler, he's stopped sleeping with her after 1 year of marraige so the cracks been there for at least two years and now the relationship is on the verge of breaking down.

But all Maya can see is the non existent "love" between them. How can even one converse in a civil way with such a delusional person? I totally get how Arjun must be feeling.

And as for Arjun beating Maya - i strongly believe he doesn't. It's a ploy by Maya to defame him.

Hey I agree with most of the things you said and I would like to add that Arjun, Saanjh, and maya are all grey characters.

Very well written post and I agree with most things you have penned down. I think Arjun was infatuated with Maya because he thought she was his ideal woman- young, hot, successful, rich. In comparison, his BFF looked plain, simple and ordinary. What would any guy choose? Was Arjun wrong- I don't think so. Both Arjun and Maya are flawed and at fault, because both never actually had a relationship and just jumped into it without thinking about the consequences. I know maya isn't a 'normal' woman, but neither is Arjun- yes he portrays a normal dude, but he grew up without a steady fathers influence, shunned by his step mom and only had his best friend to guide him. So maya was the first woman to show an active interest in him, and he fell for it. But is he mature or as you said, emotionally capable of handling Maya? Nope! But did he need this lesson in life to grow up, and grow into the man he would be? Yes.

I believe the story is the one of beyadh love of saanjh, Arjun And maya, we have seen the ladies limitless love, but the show hasn't explored Arjun's love yet. I think Arjun having never experienced love, fell for Maya's illusion of love. But on the day of the wedding, when Saanjh explained love, he realized he doesn't love maya. All this time, saanjh has been his saviour, and after yhrrr years and learning so many valuable lessons, he may show his bayhadh love for saanjh.
Saanjh- she has been Arjun's light, solace and resting place, and his source of comfort. Mom, sister, father, best friend all rolled into one. Her love is the Yin to Maya's yang.

Maya- an illusion, she is whatever she creates herself to be. She is the generous lover, understanding wife, ruthless business woman, but all of it is an illusion. Underneath it all, she is a scared child. There is something so damaged about maya, I don't think even counselling can cure her. She is spongelike, and truly represents white for what it is. Just canvas, she absorbs emotions like pigments and simply projects them on others. I know her family and her parents dysfunctional relationship contributed to her own degeneration, but seeing her conversations with god and her reactions to situations, she would always be a slave to the emotions "pigments" she absorbed and would be manipulative and extreme to satisfy her own agenda. From what I see, Maya's life can be summarized in that sixth promise she made to Arjun. She would live till the Beyhadh love for Arjun existed.

Samay- a bit early on in the game, but I feel like the noun, time doesn't belong to anyone. Right now he is with saanjh, meaning the tables have turned. Dusky has returned, stronger and more importantly Samay is on her side, foreshadowing a change in control- from maya to her. But I feel he is the mixer between the three and has the ability to change dynamics and thus the course of their life.

Ps: I'm not bashing any actor, this post isnt meant to highlight one actor va the other. Im strictly talking about the characters. Cheers!

Agree with few points. I always believed Arjun n Maya aren't good for each other. Saanjh is perfect for Arjun. Somewhere i feel he has feelings for her. Saanjh does look obsessed to me, but much toned down than Maya. Her whole life has revolved around Arjun, dt she can't seem to think beyond it. She is a saner grey.

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

While I generally agree with you, the following is my view:
Trust is the key for building a time-tested lasting relationship

Be it love or friendship or for that mater a simple business deal!

On the other hand, lack of trust creates either jealousy or sense of insecurity. And such relations are just flash in the pan & quickly die down.

Even physical attraction or material interests won't work long!

ArYa's love is doomed from the beginning as it evolved not by trust or conviction but simply achieved by manipulation.
Maya's extreme sense of insecurity will never let her trust anyone, even Arjun. CCTVs micro phones etc are case in point.
Yes! she will hold on to him by obsession. And that is not love! And it will be only painful!

Their love had every other thing physical charm, material interest & sense of insecurity (opposite of trust/conviction!) and naturally failed the test of time!
This is the problem of Maya-Arjun couple!

Maya will soon face Saanjh Samay ( meaning twilight before darkness) in her marital iife!

When the darkness descends, she will take a beyhadh roop!

I agree.

Marriage is a demanding relationship that requires work from both sides. Neither Arjun nor Maya were ready for it. In Arjun's case, he needed to become more serious and responsible towards the relationship. He really jumped into it without giving much consideration. Maya's issue is a lot more complex; she actually needed healing and the understanding that love isn't about control before going for a relationship.

Originally posted by: Fernandes43

While I generally agree with you, the following is my view:
Trust is the key for building a time-tested lasting relationship

Be it love or friendship or for that mater a simple business deal!

On the other hand, lack of trust creates either jealousy or sense of insecurity. And such relations are just flash in the pan & quickly die down.

Even physical attraction or material interests won't work long!

I agree 100% you. Trust is not only the key to a romantic relationship but it is the key to all relationship. Love is only the tip of the iceberg but trust and honesty are the foundations of a relationship.

ArYa's love is doomed from the beginning as it evolved not by trust or conviction but simply achieved by manipulation.
Maya's extreme sense of insecurity will never let her trust anyone, even Arjun. CCTVs micro phones etc are case in point.
Yes! she will hold on to him by obsession. And that is not love! And it will be only painful

Their love had every other thing physical charm, material interest & sense of insecurity (opposite of trust/conviction!) and naturally failed the test of time!
This is the problem of Maya-Arjun couple!
Once again I totally agree. Maya's past has given her so many insecurities that she is not able to trust anyone. There was infatuation on both sides and it has turned into something dark for both of them. In Maya's case it is a dark obsession and in Arjun's it is stone-cold hatred.

Maya will soon face Saanjh Samay ( meaning twilight before darkness) in her marital iife!

When the darkness descends, she will take a beyhadh roop!