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Posted: 5 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: LawlessLawyer

1) @TM,I do understand where you are coming from but at the same time we need to understand how a man like MJ's mind works. A criminal's mind is such that it seeks to justify their actions in one way or another. What is unreasonable to us may not be so to someone else.What reason did Ashwin Mehrotra in s1 have to torture his daughter who was his own flesh and blood?What reason do bullies in schools and colleges have to harass a fellow student mentally and physically? There are cases of professors holding a grudge against students for supposedly minor issues and taking it out on their grades.There are people who are nasty and ill treat just because they are in a position of power to do so.They do not need any specific reason.These kind of people get a kick out of stepping over a person. It makes them feel validated and empowered. They do not have any fear of retribution because they know that they are protected by their money or position or both.


MJ has a god complex due to his wealth and status. He considers human beings as puppets whom he can play with. Manvi was no different. He toyed with her until she amused him and threw her aside when she began to threaten his image.


And yes MJ targetting Manvi because she rejected his flowers seems trivial to us.But even in the real world,major issues have arisen due to trivial reasons. Let's take Jessica Lal's case for example. Manu Sharma shot Jessica just because she refused him a drink as the bar was closed. He didn't have to. She was just an employee and he could easily access the best drinks in the world. But it wasn't about the drink. It was a show of power to what seemed like an act of defiance by a mere waitress against him. Similarly MJ couldn't digest the fact that a mere employee had dared to reject his flowers which is why he played his cruel game of deception with her. His original plan was probably to use her and throw her away. But since her pregnancy had become a liability and she was beginning to raise her voice against him,he crushed her completely in every way possible.It was a Machiavellian move. He went out of his way to remove Manvi from the equation so that she couldn't rise against him again.


2. As far as the schizophrenia or mental illness angle is concerned then I don't think that's possible for two reasons. One is that they clearly established the fact from the very beginning that it was a revenge saga of Maya against MJ. They made sure that the audience is aware of the kind of man MJ before the past revelation occurred. Secondly the current ITV isn't capable of showing a proper psychological thriller so I wouldn't expect it from them. Beyhadh's theme has always been simple wrapped in a complicated package. Beyhadh 1 was about an obsessive lover who would go to any for the man she desired. Beyhadh 2 is about a woman who was wronged and seeks revenge. There is nothing more to it.


What you say can very well be true. All I'm saying that there should've been a more strong reason for MJ to get triggered by Maya enough to destroy her life. The reason for his becoming so invested in her was quite trivial I feel.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#52

I also find it fishy. Even if I agree that MJ couldn't take a NO from a girl, still why did his friends and even gf support him to this extent that they told Manvi that MJ loves her. I feel the writer hasn't given much thought about why MJ went so far with his revenge thing but Maya's revenge sounds logical. Wonder what MJ's mother did when she got to know about Manvi.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: roni_berna

I also find it fishy. Even if I agree that MJ couldn't take a NO from a girl, still why did his friends and even gf support him to this extent that they told Manvi that MJ loves her. I feel the writer hasn't given much thought about why MJ went so far with his revenge thing but Maya's revenge sounds logical. Wonder what MJ's mother did when she got to know about Manvi.


Yes, it's like a storm in a teacup. Much ado about nothing.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: Mahisa22


Exactly. Like I said, a seasoned womanizer like MJ will not waste so much time on just one girl when he can get high standard models throwing themselves at him.

And doing the suicide drama-- that felt SO CHILDISH. MJ is a top businessman, not a college-age jerk lol. Which 50 year old business head pulls off such puerile tricks to impress a random girl?

The whole thing feels very funny to me. Obviously not the abuse part, but the way it played out.


MJ himself is Schizophrenic. Job or jobless, he has money to play with other women.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: vatika_r


MJ himself is Schizophrenic. Job or jobless, he has money to play with other women.


This is inappropriate. You guys are throwing around the word schizophrenia willy nilly without knowing or understanding what that truly is. This is offensive to people that have schizophrenia. MJ is chauvinistic and a huge narcissist, not too mention promiscuous.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Kabhi18


This is inappropriate. You guys are throwing around the word schizophrenia willy nilly without knowing or understanding what that truly is. This is offensive to people that have schizophrenia. MJ is chauvinistic and a huge narcissist, not too mention promiscuous.

Ashish himself confirmed in the interview that MJ is psyche & negative.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: vatika_r

Ashish himself confirmed in the interview that MJ is psyche & negative.


Being 'psycho' (whatever that means) does not mean being schizophrenic. The latter is a disease with certain definite symptoms.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahisa22


Being 'psycho' (whatever that means) does not mean being schizophrenic. The latter is a disease with certain definite symptoms.


Thank you for pointing that out for those who do not understand the difference and the condition of schizophrenia itself.


It is a serious condition where a person hallucinates.


a long-term mental disorder of a type involving a breakdown in the relation between thought, emotion, and behavior, leading to faulty perception, inappropriate actions and feelings, withdrawal from reality and personal relationships into fantasy and delusion, and a sense of mental fragmentation.

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