Ep 23: Bharose ki rassi jab uljhe to phaansi ka fanda ban jati hai

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Happy New Year peeps! hope everyone is having fun and in Maya's language "Beyhadh Ho Jao" in fun and party😆 Anyway coming back to the episode, it was the necessary turning point for MayRa's relationship and Rishi is going to get dumped, as per my logic dictates.

RuAn's confrontation - Ananya confronts Rudra with the hand printouts of Rudra and Maya and tells him that she has the right to know if he falls in love with someone else. But Rudra completely denies being in love with Maya or with anyone else as a matter of fact as he hates the concept of love. Ananya implores him for the sake of their childhood friendship to share his reasons with her, but he evades answering her questions because he cannot properly answer those questions. I don't think Rudra can ever share painful memories of his past with people like Ananya and Rishi who have never undergone that pain. His pain is not just regarding love for a woman but also love for his father. Hence he cannot share with someone who hasn't experienced either. This is where Maya can help him, although to help her game, she can help him overcome this pain just like she helped him overcome the fear of elevators. She knows the pain of losing a father and being betrayed in love - both of which Rudra also has experienced. So I guess Rudra will be sharing his pain with Maya and Maya will help him cope in her signature Chod do ye darr aur beyhadh ho jao style. Rudra can deny all he wants but sneaking up on her cabin and observing her does not seem like he is not in love with her.🤪 I am waiting for the time when he will be in 'beyhadh love' with her. Neither will he run nor Maya will find a place to run.

Antara's delusion - I mean which planet is this woman from? She is happy because Mrityunjay is changing his attitude towards her and he loves his family very much. No wonder Rudra feels so lonely in that family of his. Everybody is so bloody preoccupied in their own delusions. She is an apt Gandhari to Mrityunjay's Dhritarashtra. Her blind loyalty to Mrityunjay will be the end of her family and her sons. I wanted to skip her scenes, but how can I write my analysis then. Ye analysis ke chakkar me pukish scenes bhi tolerate karni padti hai. But Diya still tried to drive some sense into her stating matter-of-factly that Mrityunjay just loves his image and no one else. As long as she keeps it up, everything will be hunky-dory. But with Rudra and Mrityunjay it may not remain the same as long as Mrityunjay pursues Rudra's investor.

Mrityunjay's tactics - Mrityunjay is what he is today because he is a ruthless businessman. He always gets what he wants. He wanted the name of Rajiv's partner, but I have high doubts about what Rajiv must have told him. Whatever Rajiv told him, I am sure it wasn't about Maya, but Rajiv's weakness for one moment led to the ball going to Mrityunjay's court. I did not really understand what happened. What did Rajiv sign? Did he transfer the power of investorship from Maya to Mrityunjay? I mean I stand confused. But Mrityunjay just signed the death warrant of his relationship with Rudra, because Maya will deal him the biggest blow if Rudra walks out of the Roy mansion. But Rajiv, I had high hopes from him. Ye 8 saal ki planning ke jo bade bade daawe kiye in dono ne - 2 episodes me hi pani pher diya Rishi aur Mrityunjay ne to. They need to make their planning a little more solid. But high doubts that Maya will place her trust in Rajiv again.

MaHi confrontation - Maya did manage to do damage control by turning the revelation on Rishi as a matter of self-respect and her wanting to work without his referral at Rudra's office. But Rishi had rightly assessed that she was playing some game with Rudra and Rishi. Maya stung him with her emotional weapon of being suicidal the day she saved him from drowning. And wanted to take some time to forgive him for what he has done. Maya has quite quickly grasped that unlike Rudra who has begun to trust her inherently, Rishi's trust wavers quite easily and he is very unpredictable, unlike Rudra. Maya till now has been able to read Rudra very well because she hasn't completely lied to him, she has been pretty honest with him grudgingly though. However, she hasn't been open with Rishi, hasn't been real with him and for some reason cringes at his touch, which raises a doubt in my mind. Is Rishi, Mrityunjay and Antara's son? Rudra's real brother? Did Mrityunjay have another brother who's son is Rishi and the real tormentor of Maya? Who probably died and Mrityunjay and Antara adopted Rishi, which is why they are bordering on over-protectiveness in the whole family. With Rudra initially, the problem was him wearing that same bracelet which reminded Maya of the memories. But now that does not seem to bother her anymore, because she is growing comfortable around him and his touch. With Rishi that hasn't changed yet. It is just an assumption, cannot be too sure.

Precap is bombastic because Maya will use that very weapon which Mrityunjay used against her - Rajiv. Mrityunjay used Rajiv to reel in Rudra under his control and Maya will be using Rajiv to deepen the chasm between father and son.

Well, that was my rambling for tonight. Please share your thoughts on the episode. Happy New Year once again peeps

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Very good analysis 🙌

I don't think MJ had some brother who played Maya dirty 🤔 I mean it just doesn't go with the plot . Maya mentioned many times that her love destroyed her life , ruined her now she is behind MJ's family and MJ . She is freaking scared of MJ . My question why ? MJ ka koi Bhai hi hota Jo osab karta and fir mar Jata tho why Maya would have come back for revenge ? And why she is Soo scared from MJ ? Why she behind them if her actual culprit is death or not present. I don't feel Rishi isn't their son . He is very much their son . Antara said previously "ma bap ke Kiya ki saja baccho ko nahi milna chahiya". I would rather believe Rudra isn't their own son 🤣he seems too decent to be their own child . Jokes apart . I found Maya pretty hypocritical being all fine with Rudra's touch , getting close to him but Cringe away at Rishi's touch 😏and FB. Whole thing is pretty fishy .

Her sob story was pathetic god knows how Rishi trusted it 🤦. She needs to work on her so called 8 years planning because it's full of loopholes .


I tho loved Anayana 💝 again she proved to be a friend first . Her behavior was pretty natural no stupid jealousy or drama .

I totally loved ur analysis about Rudra can't share his pain with Anayana or Rishi because they will not understand the depth of it .

Antara is pathetic excuse of a mother period🤪

For once I totally agree with Diya that MJ only thinks about his image .

That woman lives in her stupid delusions 😪


Precap looks interesting. I felt Maya broke that bottle on his head because later she wanted to show Rudra that his father beat and hurt Rajeev 😌 poor Rajeev kitna pitgaya 🥺🤣felt bad for him .

I personally feel CVS need to Slow down with Rudra's feelings they r rushing with him . Thora slow and steady hota tho Jada natural hota .

That boy bumbed to that door while stealing glances 🤣. He is cute ❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Beautiful analysis Sohini. 😳 I am back again, here.

I loved RuAn's confrontation. I love how she is straightforward about her feelings as well as accepting of her best friend as he is, with or without his romantic feelings for her. Rudra has to watch where is treading, because his feelings for Maya will not cease to exist, just because he refuses to acknowledge them. It seemed Rudra was zoning out again into that moment, only Ananya was there in front of him that stopped him. It is interesting that the Rudra who was encouraging Maya, or rather her 'character' to find her prince charming again refuses to fall in love again or believe that it can happen. Much like how Maya pushed Rudra to leave his past and win his fears in the lift scene, but stayed back behind, struggling with her demons herself. They are so alike. Now that Rudra Roy has held Maya's hand once, by accident or not, I doubt he would leave it.

Antara is addicted to MJ. As long as she gets her daily doses of his love everything is hunky-dory for her. She will conveniently forget that the facade has slipped off in front of the society or he abuses or blackmails her when he doesn't get his way. Rudra had promised to support her just in case she wakes up, I wonder if that would ever happen.


I have a feeling, Maya will get Rajeev beaten, get MJ blamed for it and get that legal document null and void. This would get her revenge back on track. But MJ probably already knows her identity, so the war would probably begin in full swing, aamne samne. Did MJ suspect it was her? He was doubting in the initial epi that someone was after his sons, then Rishi's gf issue, then asking Rajeev who his partner was.. MJ is pretty shrewd if that is the case. I think it's going to get exciting.


I don't want to write much about MaHi write now. I would like to watch first where Maya is taking MaHi with her change in plans. She has already initiated a kind of break-up today. Will that lead Rishi to think she ditched one brother for another? I wonder if MJ would brainwash him.

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Today I felt like unknowingly she lost to all the three Roy's.. and some of that game that she lost also makes her win..


To Rishi.. she did not expect him to suddenly see her and her plans were not those so soon.. so it foiled her plans and Rajiv who could have helped her here also wasnt there.. the scene with Rishi where she made those cupboards almost fall over and him and then herself saved him by holding the weight on her back.. playing with rishi is that weight on her back..rishi might be of little or no help..


With MJ she lost when he used her pawn Rajiv against her plans only.. she hit him hard with a glass..almost bleeding him and he could even die.. With Mj her blow has to be hard or there is no use..


Lost to Rudra in a diff way.. her game of attraction went back to her itself and she fell over him and unknowingly got affected too.. be it the book that he could read more than she expected him to and she had a weak moment of speaking up.. she lost herself to Rudra.. but that's the only loss which is her gain.. he shielded her from Rishi (read mj ) standing between them and not letting him shake hands..


Now the plan lost to Mj will be answered back tomo to him..


But rest of the epi.. Ananya needs to calm down.. I felt like she is getting frustrated that she will now lose Rudra.. till now she loved him but she had that hope that he will reciprocate but which looks like he is reciprocating to Maya rather.. and it's not invisible to Ananya..I feel she will go through her own tornado or emotions and come out stronger and support Rudra to keep friendship and let go of love..


Please tell us who is Diya.. I feel she is having relationship with MJ but he has kept her like a side kick to handle antara and his reputation..Diya is sticking on with dream of becoming mrs Roy someday..


Rudra poor guy bumped to the glass door 🤣 and Maya actually saw him but acted like she dint..😆.. how did she control her laughter..

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Today's episode was a mixed bag for me. Some interesting foreshadows..


- Rudra declaring he could never fall in love again and atleast not with Maya JaiSingh. How perfect. Coz he has fallen for the real girl behind the facade. The one that's vulnerable, loving, caring, in times of distress a source of support, sassy, and a femme fatale. I see many complain about Rudras sudden attraction to Maya. Tbh it's not sudden. It started from the fish task. He is enamored by her, attracted to her, and grudgingly fond of her sanak.


- Time for a new turn in the story. Yes Maya, we are curious for this new turn. As we have been observing- is Maya now playing the guide to Rishi and lover to Rudra? Or is she increasing the stake by becoming the object of desire for both? The way Rudra-Rishi were staring at her pretty much rings bells of trouble in this bond.


- Antara quite rightly hoping MJ doesn't mess with Rudras investor or it would be for the last time. And as rightly guessed by her, that's exactly what MJ has done. Torturing Rajiv enough to sell out his investment in RuAn or withdrawing from it as an investor. It's going to drive Rudra wild with anger as we saw in the precap.


- MaHi and Maya shielding Rishi from mortal danger. This is easily the second time that Maya has put Rishi in physical and mortal danger and then stepped into save him, herself. Shows that Rishi is definitely not a lambi race ka ghoda. He is disposable the day Maya achieves what she planned to with him.


Things that kind of troubled me were

- The very poor planning of Maya and Rajiv. I mean how can someone who has been planning for 8 years not have guessed:

(I) MJ would not stop till he got what he wanted with Rajiv after she made him public.

(II) Rishi turning up at RuAn coz that's what any young and desperate guy would do.

This isn't about showing her as human and not perfect. It's about showing her lack of foresight and ineffectiveness of Rajiv as her ally though not as a friend. He proved his friendship not selling her name out.


But a big round of applause to Maya for turning a loss into a win by injuring Rajiv and using it to fuel Rudras anger against MJ.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Beautiful analysis of the episode by you, Sohini! ❤️

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Originally posted by: 69_Anushka

Very good analysis 🙌

Thanks Anushka 😊

I don't think MJ had some brother who played Maya dirty 🤔 I mean it just doesn't go with the plot . Maya mentioned many times that her love destroyed her life , ruined her now she is behind MJ's family and MJ . She is freaking scared of MJ . My question why ? MJ ka koi Bhai hi hota Jo osab karta and fir mar Jata tho why Maya would have come back for revenge ? And why she is Soo scared from MJ ? Why she behind them if her actual culprit is death or not present. I don't feel Rishi isn't their son . He is very much their son . Antara said previously "ma bap ke Kiya ki saja baccho ko nahi milna chahiya". I would rather believe Rudra isn't their own son 🤣he seems too decent to be their own child . Jokes apart . I found Maya pretty hypocritical being all fine with Rudra's touch , getting close to him but Cringe away at Rishi's touch 😏and FB. Whole thing is pretty fishy.

For some reason, she finds it comfortable to be around Rudra, because he does not touch her at his whim. He maintains that limit. In fact he did not let Rishi shake her hand because she has a touch issue. So he respects that. Rishi always touches her without her permission, knowing that she doesn't appreciate it. For Rudra, it is - no touch if my girl doesn't like it and with Rishi it is - she is my girl so I will touch her, because I like it. That is the difference.

Her sob story was pathetic god knows how Rishi trusted it 🤦. She needs to work on her so called 8 years planning because it's full of loopholes .

I was just laughing like an idiot during the scene. Maya is a natural when making sob stories, because her life is a sob story which is lit by the fire of revenge.

I tho loved Anayana 💝 again she proved to be a friend first . Her behavior was pretty natural no stupid jealousy or drama .

Yes, I appreciate the fact that she isn't Saanjh 2.0. I don't want her to be one.

I totally loved ur analysis about Rudra can't share his pain with Anayana or Rishi because they will not understand the depth of it .

Antara is pathetic excuse of a mother period🤪

For once I totally agree with Diya that MJ only thinks about his image .

That woman lives in her stupid delusions 😪


Precap looks interesting. I felt Maya broke that bottle on his head because later she wanted to show Rudra that his father beat and hurt Rajeev 😌 poor Rajeev kitna pitgaya 🥺🤣felt bad for him .

I personally feel CVS need to Slow down with Rudra's feelings they r rushing with him . Thora slow and steady hota tho Jada natural hota .

Rudra's feelings aren't rushed. He was always drawn to Maya in one way or the other. Be it irritation, dislike, hate, intrigue,he was always drawn to Maya. And as far as slowing down is concerned, Rudra himself will because he himself does not want to go this way.

That boy bumbed to that door while stealing glances 🤣. He is cute ❤️

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Originally posted by: tournesol

Beautiful analysis Sohini. 😳 I am back again, here.

Thanks, TIara. Yes, I read your thought in my previous analysis post.

I loved RuAn's confrontation. I love how she is straightforward about her feelings as well as accepting of her best friend as he is, with or without his romantic feelings for her. Rudra has to watch where is treading, because his feelings for Maya will not cease to exist, just because he refuses to acknowledge them. It seemed Rudra was zoning out again into that moment, only Ananya was there in front of him that stopped him. It is interesting that the Rudra who was encouraging Maya, or rather her 'character' to find her prince charming again refuses to fall in love again or believe that it can happen. Much like how Maya pushed Rudra to leave his past and win his fears in the lift scene, but stayed back behind, struggling with her demons herself. They are so alike. Now that Rudra Roy has held Maya's hand once, by accident or not, I doubt he would leave it.

Antara is addicted to MJ. As long as she gets her daily doses of his love everything is hunky-dory for her. She will conveniently forget that the facade has slipped off in front of the society or he abuses or blackmails her when he doesn't get his way. Rudra had promised to support her just in case she wakes up, I wonder if that would ever happen.

I thought that jhatka that Maya gave her would wake her up, but ye aurat to shayad 4-5 jhatko ke baad bhi wake up na kare. That woman is going to wake up, smell the coffee and go back to sleep in her Mrityunjay land again. What a big let down she is as a mother.🤢

I have a feeling, Maya will get Rajeev beaten, get MJ blamed for it and get that legal document null and void. This would get her revenge back on track. But MJ probably already knows her identity, so the war would probably begin in full swing, aamne samne. Did MJ suspect it was her? He was doubting in the initial epi that someone was after his sons, then Rishi's gf issue, then asking Rajeev who his partner was.. MJ is pretty shrewd if that is the case. I think it's going to get exciting.

As per the latest news, Mrityunjay got Rajiv to sign the power of attorney of RuAn Publications. No wonder, Rudra is so pissed with his father in the next episode. Just like Maya said in the precap, this game belonged to you because you won by trickery, but a good player is someone who adapts their moves according to the opponent. Mrityunjay used Rajiv to win this bout. Next bout Maya uses Rudra.

I don't want to write much about MaHi write now. I would like to watch first where Maya is taking MaHi with her change in plans. She has already initiated a kind of break-up today. Will that lead Rishi to think she ditched one brother for another? I wonder if MJ would brainwash him.

I don't know how Maya plans to change her course with Rishi - is she going to dump him? Is she going to use Rudra against him? I am a little confused. After this bout using Rudra, she might create a situation where Mrityunjay becomes paranoid about Rishi and he utilizes his cunning mind to keep Rishi under control. How much does Rishi listen to him is what we have to wait and see.

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Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Today I felt like unknowingly she lost to all the three Roy's.. and some of that game that she lost also makes her win..


To Rishi.. she did not expect him to suddenly see her and her plans were not those so soon.. so it foiled her plans and Rajiv who could have helped her here also wasnt there.. the scene with Rishi where she made those cupboards almost fall over and him and then herself saved him by holding the weight on her back.. playing with rishi is that weight on her back..rishi might be of little or no help..


With MJ she lost when he used her pawn Rajiv against her plans only.. she hit him hard with a glass..almost bleeding him and he could even die.. With Mj her blow has to be hard or there is no use..


Lost to Rudra in a diff way.. her game of attraction went back to her itself and she fell over him and unknowingly got affected too.. be it the book that he could read more than she expected him to and she had a weak moment of speaking up.. she lost herself to Rudra.. but that's the only loss which is her gain.. he shielded her from Rishi (read mj ) standing between them and not letting him shake hands..


Now the plan lost to Mj will be answered back tomo to him..


But rest of the epi.. Ananya needs to calm down.. I felt like she is getting frustrated that she will now lose Rudra.. till now she loved him but she had that hope that he will reciprocate but which looks like he is reciprocating to Maya rather.. and it's not invisible to Ananya..I feel she will go through her own tornado or emotions and come out stronger and support Rudra to keep friendship and let go of love..


Please tell us who is Diya.. I feel she is having relationship with MJ but he has kept her like a side kick to handle antara and his reputation..Diya is sticking on with dream of becoming mrs Roy someday..


Rudra poor guy bumped to the glass door 🤣 and Maya actually saw him but acted like she dint..😆.. how did she control her laughter..

Not all the losses were losses. With Rajiv, she lost the power as an investor to Mrityunjay. With Rishi, she lost the element of surprise. With Rudra, she has lost the aura of mystery. With Rajiv, it isn't a loss because she can turn the game around with his help. She knows that he is weak in certain ways, but that is how she will turn his weaknesses into strength. With Rishi, she realized that Rishi's unpredictable nature can land her in hot water, so she needs to steer her course away from him so that he does not become a liability. With Rudra, there is more reality between them, because Rudra is very honest and straightforward and Maya can only be honest with him for Rudra to trust her.

Rudra does trust her but is annoyed that she trusts Rajiv more than him. I don't get it, Rudra is someone who is not bothered by anything or anyone. But with Maya, everything bothers him. He tells Ananya that she isn't honest with them. What honesty does he want from her? She is the author which his company has signed in, she is the investor who has given her money, she gave her reasons for all 3 challenges, and she introduced Rajiv as well. That is where it should end. But he shows interest in the 'chemist', in her mom, in her family life, in the person Maya. There shouldn't be any need to do so. But he does, and then he says I will never fall for Maya JaisinghEither he is dumb or thinks we are dumb and whole wide world who can see his actions are dumb.

Ananya isn't getting frustrated. She is getting annoyed that Rudra is not owning up to having feelings for Maya. He is not owning up to being attracted to Maya. He is continuously denying and Ananya feels like a friend she should know first about such things.

Diya to now I feel is the in-house Shakuni of this Roy clan. She isn't there for anyone. She is there for completely her own personal agenda. Shakuni's only agenda in Mahabharat was the destruction of Kuru clan by hook or by crook. Seems like Diya is also someone similar.

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Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Today's episode was a mixed bag for me. Some interesting foreshadows..

Yes there were some interesting symbolisms.

- Rudra declaring he could never fall in love again and atleast not with Maya JaiSingh. How perfect. Coz he has fallen for the real girl behind the facade. The one that's vulnerable, loving, caring, in times of distress a source of support, sassy, and a femme fatale. I see many complain about Rudras sudden attraction to Maya. Tbh it's not sudden. It started from the fish task. He is enamored by her, attracted to her, and grudgingly fond of her sanak.

Rudra and Maya both do not realize right now that both of them need each other. Maya has a light inside her but she has embraced the darkness in her quest for justice. Rudra has darkness within, as in dark experiences and dark memories which he is trying to fight every day with light. Maya can give some of her darkness to him and Rudra can offer some of his light so that both can achieve the balance needed to fight this war. Maya is Krishna who was dark-complexioned and Rudra is Arjun which itself means 'white or silver'. In another perspective also Maya is a version of Kali, someone with immense darkness who is so ferocious that she can destroy everything and Rudra is a fierce aspect of Shiva, who has the power to be ready to be destroyed so that Kali reverts back to her pure, raw and sweet form of Parvati. Rudra has to be willing to be destroyed to quench the burning rage and darkness inside Maya to bring out the hasti masti Maya whom he is trying to search in the book.

- Time for a new turn in the story. Yes Maya, we are curious for this new turn. As we have been observing- is Maya now playing the guide to Rishi and lover to Rudra? Or is she increasing the stake by becoming the object of desire for both? The way Rudra-Rishi were staring at her pretty much rings bells of trouble in this bond.

Rishi is becoming tricky for her to handle since he is unpredictable. She cannot let him be a liability. She put too much trust in the naivety of Rishi, and now she has realized he is neither naive nor bachcha.

- Antara quite rightly hoping MJ doesn't mess with Rudras investor or it would be for the last time. And as rightly guessed by her, that's exactly what MJ has done. Torturing Rajiv enough to sell out his investment in RuAn or withdrawing from it as an investor. It's going to drive Rudra wild with anger as we saw in the precap.

Antara knows nothing about Mrityunjay but definitely knows how Rudra will react because of him. And we know what is about to happen in the future episodes.

- MaHi and Maya shielding Rishi from mortal danger. This is easily the second time that Maya has put Rishi in physical and mortal danger and then stepped into save him, herself. Shows that Rishi is definitely not a lambi race ka ghoda. He is disposable the day Maya achieves what she planned to with him.

I am really confused about what she actually plans to do to him. I have a feeling as Rajiv had said that Rishi will run away, he will because Mrityunjay will ensure the same, and then she will have no choice but to turn to Rudra.

Things that kind of troubled me were

- The very poor planning of Maya and Rajiv. I mean how can someone who has been planning for 8 years not have guessed:

(I) MJ would not stop till he got what he wanted with Rajiv after she made him public.

(II) Rishi turning up at RuAn coz that's what any young and desperate guy would do.

This isn't about showing her as human and not perfect. It's about showing her lack of foresight and ineffectiveness of Rajiv as her ally though not as a friend. He proved his friendship not selling her name out.

Of course, they are not perfect, but 8 saal ki planning ke bawajood, there are so many loopholes. Isse achi planning Durga ki thi in Ek Hasina Thi. But their the girl had a new face, name, and family. But here Maya does not have that advantage, hence she relies on the power of being a mystery to people. With so many people getting to know her face, she now needs to reinforce her plans keeping in mind that what she needs to do when she is in the open and not in the shadows. Frankly, she should move out of her mystery zone and come out in the light. Maya went dark to bring to fore the darkness of Mrityunjay Roy. But staying in the dark too long will just reinforce her weakness, which is why it is important for her to make Rudra her strength - even if that means she has to accept she loves Rudra.

But a big round of applause to Maya for turning a loss into a win by injuring Rajiv and using it to fuel Rudra's anger against MJ.

Will applaud her after watching the episode.

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