Analysis Corner (Mar 31st Yeh koi saas bahu serial nahi hai link p.64) - Page 4

Originally posted by: libran90

@red: I agree with you on this bit. Rudra is chirpy and easygoing as his brother, and he is sharp and analytical like Mrityunjay. He is a mix of both - of course, the same DNA. I may be wrong, but Rishi, Rudra, and Mrityunjay are 3 very important characters. I don't think they will bump off Rishi so easily. She is setting them all up to see them suffer. Why kill and make it so easy for them? Isn't this Maya's Mahabharat. She is Yagyaseni (born of fire) to burn everything and herself in her revenge. But she also is that fire that gives light and warmth as well.

Rudra and Maya have a long way to go before they become decent with each other. Both are far far away from where we are willing to see them.

And Rishi is all jovial and perky now, but let us not forget. He is a ROY. If Maya breaks his heart, or rejects him or dupes him and marries Rudra - there is whole another shade of his character which may come out which we don't know of.

Great Post Namrata😊

Rishi has every ability to become the actual mastermind. I mentioned earlier that the youngest children are often only thought of as kids for the longest time and are not taken seriously. Right now Rishi is that kid. He's pampered by all and he gets all excited by his crush reaching out to him.

But he's also a spoilt brat. And with the way he found out about Maya, he has every ability to join forces with MJ or even overtake MJ in trying to destroy Maya when she breaks his heart. Because he's used to getting his way and not getting Maya would break his fragile ego.

That's another difference between the brothers. Rudra has an ego, but he also knows when he has to swallow it to do best by his company and by himself. Rishi has an ego as well, but it's so fragile that when it breaks all hell will break loose.

Originally posted by: NamuVyas

U know what just to break some stereotypes which this show already has been doing.. they need to cut the marriage thing.. two ppl in equation needn't be married.. I wouldn't mind seeing them up close and intimate without a marriage..

Rishi character is not the main one.. so I dont think they will drag him into the story for very long.. plus since they have only 6 months so I think things will be paced..

I don't know how many stereotypes they will break, with this being a show on TV. Had it been digital, it would have probably worked. But yes, they can show another kind of intimacy and closeness without marrying them off. But then, how will Maya come face to face with MJ then. She needs to get under his skin to torment him.

I honestly am not too sure about Rishi, he may be the cute boy for now but turn into the devil also. I cannot say anything now.

Originally posted by: Minionite

Rishi has every ability to become the actual mastermind. I mentioned earlier that the youngest children are often only thought of as kids for the longest time and are not taken seriously. Right now Rishi is that kid. He's pampered by all and he gets all excited by his crush reaching out to him.

But he's also a spoilt brat. And with the way he found out about Maya, he has every ability to join forces with MJ or even overtake MJ in trying to destroy Maya when she breaks his heart. Because he's used to getting his way and not getting Maya would break his fragile ego.

That's another difference between the brothers. Rudra has an ego, but he also knows when he has to swallow it to do best by his company and by himself. Rishi has an ego as well, but it's so fragile that when it breaks all hell will break loose.

@bold - Completely agree on this. Characters can swap like in an episode.

The way he found out about Maya, is a very school-boyish kind of investigation - amateur. Because he is a kid as of now. Contrasting that, Rudra did his investigation with a lot of maturity, just like a businessman would do. It is a contrast of age and of necessities here. Both need Maya for their reasons.

Rishi because he has a crush on her and Rudra because it is business. I haven't seen any instances of Rishi's ego yet. But yes, I would say that he is too over-smart and overconfident.

Originally posted by: libran90

@bold - Completely agree on this. Characters can swap like in an episode.

The way he found out about Maya, is a very school-boyish kind of investigation - amateur. Because he is a kid as of now. Contrasting that, Rudra did his investigation with a lot of maturity, just like a businessman would do. It is a contrast of age and of necessities here. Both need Maya for their reasons.

Rishi because he has a crush on her and Rudra because it is business. I haven't seen any instances of Rishi's ego yet. But yes, I would say that he is too over-smart and overconfident.

@ Bold: Yeah I haven't actually seen any, but I'm speculating based on how his character has been set up so far and how such characters usually are. Of course, CVs may throw a curveball and throw me completely off course.

Dec 5th - Fear of Touch

Going forward, I'll give each date a specific title based on what I feel the overarching theme is.

The real Rishi - We're starting to see the real Rishi now. The way his friend joked "kaunsi wali" when Rishi said his party is set suggests that he has a playboy image. And the way he bragged gave an inkling of that frail ego that boys like Rishi could have. One thing I can say with certainty is that either he'll turn out to be completely negative like Shaurya from EHT or he'll turn out to have a heart of gold like Kabir from Haasil (coincidentally both are Vatsal Sheth's roles - I guess he just ends up playing the rich, spoilt brat on TV repeatedly). I'm starting to lean towards the heart of gold only because despite this playboy, spoilt image, he still does what he can to try to mend the gap between Rudra and MJ even if it means putting himself in the middle and forcing them to stand together for a bit.

The tried and tested ploy - Sorry got to laugh for a minute here. 🤣 Okay now that I've had my laugh, what a ploy by Maya. The filmy love style - you see the person everywhere. And she decided to do exactly that. Appear and then disappear to make Rishi feel like he's falling in love and seeing her everywhere. Alright I need another minute as I laugh again. By the way, just wondering who that guy in yellow was standing behind Maya. Probably just an extra but in the blurriness it looked like he was just staring at Maya. My mind is working overtime when it comes to this show.

The sweet and deep friendship - Aww what a sweet and deep friendship between Rudra and Ananya. He knows she loves him and yet there's no awkwardness between them. Rudra has Rishi's streaks, he tried to make up to her by making her laugh first and then became the more serious and sincere Rudra. The two share a good understanding as well. Ananya forgave him immediately when she saw he was sincere about his friendship. That's how friendship should be and I hope their friendship doesn't get spoilt by MJ's insistence that the two get married. It should be Rudra's decision. Ananya has already said yes, but it should be Rudra's choice, not MJ's force or even business bargain.

Ruthless MJ - And here we get to see MJ's ruthless side. To be 100% sure that someone tried to kill Rishi, he was willing to put his employees' lives at risk to the point where he almost let one of them die. Here we also get to see that Aamir isn't as ruthless. I was half-expecting him to jump into the water to save the man without MJ's approval. This may prove that Aamir is working against MJ, but too early to tell. Side note: those red pants looked so sexy! ☺️

The ruthlessness isn't just for outsiders, but for his own family as well. He loves his sons, but he also wants to control them. Right now he has no problems that Rishi is in love, but the day Rishi starts rebelling, then his love will be a problem. On the other hand, he will do anything to keep Rudra under his thumb. He can call it whatever he wants: concern, worry, not my Rudra, but at the end of the day, it's just about controlling Rudra.

Maa baap ke karan bache kyun bhoogtein - I won't call it the dialogue of the day, but it is an intriguing dialogue. Antara knows something and knows why Rishi could be targeted. She may also have had a hand in it else she could have said just "baap" instead of "maa baap". It may have nothing to do with Maya. I'm sure to get where they are, MJ and Antara both would have hurt people. Something else to note here is that both MJ and Nandini are more worried for Rishi than Rudra. MJ showed concern that Rudra was stabbed, but that was it. Both don't want anything to happen to Rishi. Either Rudra isn't their real son or they know that Rudra can take care of himself and nothing would ever happen to him. The second one might be a stretch though given that Rudra is willing to go to any extent to stay away from MJ and keep his company afloat.

The fear of touch - The biggest topic of the day. It was a small moment, but a defining moment. Maya isn't scared of anyone's touch. She's just scared of touch by the Roys. The way she doesn't touch Rudra's hand, the way she shies away from Rishi, and then the reaction and memory trigger when Rishi does touch her - they all indicate just the Roys. Whatever happened to her it destroyed her to the core and being close to and touching the Roys brings those memories back. Today also gives us a glimpse into what may have happened to Maya. She was close to whoever this person is who deceived her. I'm not ready to say it was MJ. But whoever it was, was either a Roy or very close to the Roys. He was the person she possibly loved the most in the world and when he showed her place to her, it killed her. But it didn't leave behind a shell. No. Maya still feels. She tries to hide it, but she can't and when it consumes her, it leads her to take actions like pouring hot coffee over her own hand and then scrubbing her hand until it was raw.

This fear is so deep that it makes her reaching out to Rudra that much more important. Rudra will stay true to his word. He will not touch her or hold out his hand to her again. He understood that she's not the touching type. Hence, he will keep his word. But when she reaches out to shake his hand, he will respond in like.

Rishi, on the other hand, wants to play the knight in shining armour, but he doesn't understand Maya and I don't think he ever will. Because for him, in his naivety, he thinks all women are the same and if he understands one, then he understands them all. What he doesn't realize is that humans, not just women, are more complex than that. There is no cookie cutter model. He still has a lot to learn and in the process he'll keep making mistakes like this and we'll keep seeing more of Maya.

Maya doesn't want her own mother to see that pain. Is it because it may make her sad or bring out some hidden pain? Of course, another touch-me-not point is both her father and brother. Yesterday, the mention of Manas made Maya angry and today, the moment Nandini mentioned Maya's father, Maya fell back from the hug.

Sach ki ladayi mein baha khoon kabhi aap ke haaton mein nahi lagta - This is the dialogue of the day. It is such a foreshadowing dialogue! Blood will flow, murders will happen, and yet it'll all be in this battle. And when blood is lost in a battle, it leaves behind no marks. It's like Maya is absolving herself of whatever crimes she commits next because it'll all be in a battle to make truth prevail. Yet, is that fully true? Is murder committed in the pursuit of truth really that easily absolvable? Does it leave no marks on the soul? It does. It will come back to haunt. But, at the same time, it may be a balm on the pains that mark the soul, especially if the death is of the person who harmed you. If it's innocent blood though, it cannot be absolved because that innocent did nothing to you. Still Maya feels it'll absolve her and thus, in her pursuit of the truth, she will commit murder and not let it affect her.

Other Notes:

1. BLOOPER ALERT! The swimming pool that MJ conducted the test in was made to look like the deep end, but when the first employee came out, he was standing up with water only coming up to his chest. Even if he was using all his strength to keep him out of the water, no way he could be standing. And then when Aamir was saving the other employee, you could see the ground. It was probably only a few feet deep.

Originally posted by: Minionite

Dec 5th - Fear of Touch

Going forward, I'll give each date a specific title based on what I feel the overarching theme is.

The real Rishi - We're starting to see the real Rishi now. The way his friend joked "kaunsi wali" when Rishi said his party is set suggests that he has a playboy image. And the way he bragged gave an inkling of that frail ego that boys like Rishi could have. One thing I can say with certainty is that either he'll turn out to be completely negative like Shaurya from EHT or he'll turn out to have a heart of gold like Kabir from Haasil (coincidentally both are Vatsal Sheth's roles - I guess he just ends up playing the rich, spoilt brat on TV repeatedly). I'm starting to lean towards the heart of gold only because despite this playboy, spoilt image, he still does what he can to try to mend the gap between Rudra and MJ even if it means putting himself in the middle and forcing them to stand together for a bit.

The tried and tested ploy - Sorry got to laugh for a minute here. 🤣 Okay now that I've had my laugh, what a ploy by Maya. The filmy love style - you see the person everywhere. And she decided to do exactly that. Appear and then disappear to make Rishi feel like he's falling in love and seeing her everywhere. Alright I need another minute as I laugh again. By the way, just wondering who that guy in yellow was standing behind Maya. Probably just an extra but in the blurriness it looked like he was just staring at Maya. My mind is working overtime when it comes to this show.

The sweet and deep friendship - Aww what a sweet and deep friendship between Rudra and Ananya. He knows she loves him and yet there's no awkwardness between them. Rudra has Rishi's streaks, he tried to make up to her by making her laugh first and then became the more serious and sincere Rudra. The two share a good understanding as well. Ananya forgave him immediately when she saw he was sincere about his friendship. That's how friendship should be and I hope their friendship doesn't get spoilt by MJ's insistence that the two get married. It should be Rudra's decision. Ananya has already said yes, but it should be Rudra's choice, not MJ's force or even business bargain.

Ruthless MJ - And here we get to see MJ's ruthless side. To be 100% sure that someone tried to kill Rishi, he was willing to put his employees' lives at risk to the point where he almost let one of them die. Here we also get to see that Aamir isn't as ruthless. I was half-expecting him to jump into the water to save the man without MJ's approval. This may prove that Aamir is working against MJ, but too early to tell. Side note: those red pants looked so sexy! ☺️

The ruthlessness isn't just for outsiders, but for his own family as well. He loves his sons, but he also wants to control them. Right now he has no problems that Rishi is in love, but the day Rishi starts rebelling, then his love will be a problem. On the other hand, he will do anything to keep Rudra under his thumb. He can call it whatever he wants: concern, worry, not my Rudra, but at the end of the day, it's just about controlling Rudra.

Maa baap ke karan bache kyun bhoogtein - I won't call it the dialogue of the day, but it is an intriguing dialogue. Antara knows something and knows why Rishi could be targeted. She may also have had a hand in it else she could have said just "baap" instead of "maa baap". It may have nothing to do with Maya. I'm sure to get where they are, MJ and Antara both would have hurt people. Something else to note here is that both MJ and Nandini are more worried for Rishi than Rudra. MJ showed concern that Rudra was stabbed, but that was it. Both don't want anything to happen to Rishi. Either Rudra isn't their real son or they know that Rudra can take care of himself and nothing would ever happen to him. The second one might be a stretch though given that Rudra is willing to go to any extent to stay away from MJ and keep his company afloat.

The fear of touch - The biggest topic of the day. It was a small moment, but a defining moment. Maya isn't scared of anyone's touch. She's just scared of touch by the Roys. The way she doesn't touch Rudra's hand, the way she shies away from Rishi, and then the reaction and memory trigger when Rishi does touch her - they all indicate just the Roys. Whatever happened to her it destroyed her to the core and being close to and touching the Roys brings those memories back. Today also gives us a glimpse into what may have happened to Maya. She was close to whoever this person is who deceived her. I'm not ready to say it was MJ. But whoever it was, was either a Roy or very close to the Roys. He was the person she possibly loved the most in the world and when he showed her place to her, it killed her. But it didn't leave behind a shell. No. Maya still feels. She tries to hide it, but she can't and when it consumes her, it leads her to take actions like pouring hot coffee over her own hand and then scrubbing her hand until it was raw.

This fear is so deep that it makes her reaching out to Rudra that much more important. Rudra will stay true to his word. He will not touch her or hold out his hand to her again. He understood that she's not the touching type. Hence, he will keep his word. But when she reaches out to shake his hand, he will respond in like.

Rishi, on the other hand, wants to play the knight in shining armour, but he doesn't understand Maya and I don't think he ever will. Because for him, in his naivety, he thinks all women are the same and if he understands one, then he understands them all. What he doesn't realize is that humans, not just women, are more complex than that. There is no cookie cutter model. He still has a lot to learn and in the process he'll keep making mistakes like this and we'll keep seeing more of Maya.

Maya doesn't want her own mother to see that pain. Is it because it may make her sad or bring out some hidden pain? Of course, another touch-me-not point is both her father and brother. Yesterday, the mention of Manas made Maya angry and today, the moment Nandini mentioned Maya's father, Maya fell back from the hug.

Sach ki ladayi mein baha khoon kabhi aap ke haaton mein nahi lagta - This is the dialogue of the day. It is such a foreshadowing dialogue! Blood will flow, murders will happen, and yet it'll all be in this battle. And when blood is lost in a battle, it leaves behind no marks. It's like Maya is absolving herself of whatever crimes she commits next because it'll all be in a battle to make truth prevail. Yet, is that fully true? Is murder committed in the pursuit of truth really that easily absolvable? Does it leave no marks on the soul? It does. It will come back to haunt. But, at the same time, it may be a balm on the pains that mark the soul, especially if the death is of the person who harmed you. If it's innocent blood though, it cannot be absolved because that innocent did nothing to you. Still Maya feels it'll absolve her and thus, in her pursuit of the truth, she will commit murder and not let it affect her.

Other Notes:

1. BLOOPER ALERT! The swimming pool that MJ conducted the test in was made to look like the deep end, but when the first employee came out, he was standing up with water only coming up to his chest. Even if he was using all his strength to keep him out of the water, no way he could be standing. And then when Aamir was saving the other employee, you could see the ground. It was probably only a few feet deep.

@red - Rishi is a flirt, who thinks that he understands all kinds of girls. And he thinks he can make Maya open up to him. But that is far from the truth. Maya is true to her name. She creates illusions according to the perceptions of the opposite person. Maya shows them what they want to see. Unlike Rudra, who wants to know and understand the mystery of Maya, Rishi feels he already thinks he knows Maya. What an overconfident brat! Though a loveable one. He is playful, not manipulative. He binds the family together. He is the link between all of them. Innocent too. But if this link is removed, it exposes the cracks inside the family, which Maya can easily eliminate.

@blue - This is definitely the dialogue of the day. But from what I saw, I felt that Maya was reminded of a lesson she had learned from the Gita. It resonated to me like in the battle of truth, one has to forgo of all his emotions, even if I have to bleed in this battle of truth, it will be justified. It may be a foreshadowing as you said, but to me it was Maya was reminding herself not to sway away in her emotions, and even if the pain inside her causes her to bleed, it will be justified because this is the battle for the truth.

Great analysis👍🏼

Great analysis I would like to add..Antara said ma baap ke KARMO ka fal bache ko nahi milna chayey ..Dadi keeps on chanting karmo ka fal ...and we should get any shadu who can purify the past deed ( karma ) and camera zoom Maya.

What I am trying to say is The ROYS are ROYS by hurting many I think they can do anything to achieve what they want and Maya was one of thier victim I said "they" because it's whole family that are involved MJ being the main player .

Highlighted point - Diya is a gyno and most probably she is MJs antidote to all his past deed related women's ..

Originally posted by: libran90

@blue - This is definitely the dialogue of the day. But from what I saw, I felt that Maya was reminded of a lesson she had learned from the Gita. It resonated to me like in the battle of truth, one has to forgo of all his emotions, even if I have to bleed in this battle of truth, it will be justified. It may be a foreshadowing as you said, but to me it was Maya was reminding herself not to sway away in her emotions, and even if the pain inside her causes her to bleed, it will be justified because this is the battle for the truth.

Great analysis👍🏼

That's also a good point. It could be that as well. In a way even that is important to her. Today, when Rishi touched her she let the emotions get the better of her. She could have been reminding herself that she needs to be strong on the outside and let the wounds bleed on the inside.

Originally posted by: Ajgud

Great analysis I would like to add..Antara said ma baap ke KARMO ka fal bache ko nahi milna chayey ..Dadi keeps on chanting karmo ka fal ...and we should get any shadu who can purify the past deed ( karma ) and camera zoom Maya.

What I am trying to say is The ROYS are ROYS by hurting many I think they can do anything to achieve what they want and Maya was one of thier victim I said "they" because it's whole family that are involved MJ being the main player .

Highlighted point - Diya is a gyno and most probably she is MJs antidote to all his past deed related women's ..

I'm not going to say all the Roys because Rishi and Rudra look innocent in all this. But I agree. Antara and Dadi have done stuff as well. Antara's panic attack was too over-the-top for a simple mother's concern. She has done stuff that could lead to the kids getting hurt later on. And Dadi sometimes sounds bitter not just because of what Antara or MJ have done, but because of what she may have done as well.

The real Rishi- To be honest, real “playboy” Rishi was highlighted in the first episode itself with the whole “scoring” innuendo

The tried and tested ploy- I LOVE MAYA!!! 🤣

The way she pulled that main jahan dekhta hoon mujhe wahi nazar aati hai off trope was brilliant!

The sweet and deep friendship- Please makers, for the love of all things holy, don’t make her character a weird one because it has been done to death and I REALLY want to see her as a real person who would suck up the heartbreak, keeping her dignity intact and move on if Rudra and Maya happens.

Ruthless MJ- Ruthless, possible philanderer and manipulative traits have been already established. Let’s see what else he is capable of.

Maa baap ke karan bache kyun bhoogtein- Isn’t this the biggest fear in the minds of people who are guilty? Their deeds would have to be paid by their children. Her breakdown was a clear giveaway that they’ve possibly done hideous things and their conscience isn’t clear.

The fear of touch- She is positively repulsed by the Roys and and herein the work has been cut out for Rudra. He NEEDS to win her over bit by bit. It would hurt a million times more than that whiskey being poured over his hand but “dard hi dard ko kaat sakta hai” and... sigh. I REALLY WANT MAYA AND RUDRA TO HAPPEN. Damn it!!

Sach ki ladayi mein baha khoon kabhi aap ke haaton mein nahi lagta- Well well well. This is Maya we’re talking about. Unleashing hell and destroying anything and everything that comes in her way. It’s her beyhadh nafrat and I can’t wait to see how far she’s willing to take it this time.