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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dragonfly88

wow! Although I didn't know these stories in depth but whatever I knew I remember I use to question my mom too. Specially the sita getting banned and agnipariksha is still a question mark for me. I don't know krishna story that much so I can't say much about devki and her 8 th born. Would love if someone does throw a light on it :)


I have always wondered about these questions too..
Regarding ram letting agnipareeksha happen even when knows sitas innocence...i dnt knw if this is right..but my assumption and possible conclusion is something like this..well ram is human on earth..he is the emperor of his kingdom..he is the symbol of his kingdom..he is followed by his pupils..so rather than being a husband..his first duty as an emporer is towards his people..so even if he accepts sita knowing she is innocent..its basic human nature for atleast some or anyone to.point fingers..and if the emperors character is questioned the whole country and its people suffer..to avoid that he let the agenipareeksha happen.
And regarding mahabharata...u knw ..what i feel.is..the whole.mess was caused because of the bondage of giving words..that era was like that..be it bheeshma..be it karna..all were bonded by their words given without gicing much thought to the horrible outcome it can cause...and this began the very moment bhishma gave his word to never rule the kingdom for satyavati to marry his father..tht was the beginning of the fall ..karna too was bonded with duryodhana..krishna stands for dharma..his ultimate goal is to kill the adhrmis and lighten the burden on mother earth...infact the whole mastermind behind the war was krishnas..
And regarding krishnas birth..my question was actually if kamsa could easily kill all the babiea..why didnt he just kill vasudev in the first place ...anyways..i really dnt have a reasonable answer to tht ..all i get is..prophecies are meant to happen..and what has to happen will always happen no matter how hard we try.. 🤔..i still have no explanation..i would say..kansa being an asura..was rather stupid..😆

I am really curious now sruthi..i want to know ur answer..😛
Edited by deeps07 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Both were pranks n in Zoya's case it was criminal. Declaring a whole family missing is severe when u compare it to what Adi did. But there is a huge difference. Zoya felt compelled to do it when she saw the pain in Arjun's eyes for his brother n his parents who missed Adi a lot. Something in their family had broken n Zoya being the person she is, wanted to bring happiness back in their family n she knew that even Adi too was missing his family. She did not do this bcoz she wanted him to be with her. Zoya's act was selfless. Can u say the same about Adi? It was selfish. He not only wanted to spend time with Zoya but he wanted to keep Arshad away from Zoya so that he doesn't spend time with Zoya n he is scared Zoya might say yes to Arshad. But he forgot that it's Zoya's call n he shouldn't have done what he did. I know everyone will say Adi is in love n in love everything's fair. I know Adi is repenting for what he did but his repentance is only coz he put their lives in danger. If there were no riots Adi wouldn't feel a twinge of guilt but Arshad is a doctor n for him a duty call is a matter of life n death. Is it fair Adi fools around like this? That's y I never wanted a third angle. They would make either one of the leads look like a fool n in this case it was Adi.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon

Both were pranks n in Zoya's case it was criminal. Declaring a whole family missing is severe when u compare it to what Adi did. But there is a huge difference. Zoya felt compelled to do it when she saw the pain in Arjun's eyes for his brother n his parents who missed Adi a lot. Something in their family had broken n Zoya being the person she is, wanted to bring happiness back in their family n she knew that even Adi too was missing his family. She did not do this bcoz she wanted him to be with her. Zoya's act was selfless. Can u say the same about Adi? It was selfish. He not only wanted to spend time with Zoya but he wanted to keep Arshad away from Zoya so that he doesn't spend time with Zoya n he is scared Zoya might say yes to Arshad. But he forgot that it's Zoya's call n he shouldn't have done what he did. I know everyone will say Adi is in love n in love everything's fair. I know Adi is repenting for what he did but his repentance is only coz he put their lives in danger. If there were no riots Adi wouldn't feel a twinge of guilt but Arshad is a doctor n for him a duty call is a matter of life n death. Is it fair Adi fools around like this? That's y I never wanted a third angle. They would make either one of the leads look like a fool n in this case it was Adi.

I did agree that both of them are wrong in their places for doing something this stupid in the first place. About Zoya, yeah her intention to bring him back was for the happiness of his family but it is also true that she did not think through the consequences. People could have been actually harmed with her decision including her own employees. She was irrational for that one day. Same for Adi, just because he is in love doesn't justify his childish act. He did do something selfish. But haven't we all done something irrational? It's part of life. I didn't have a problem with them showing this actually, Adi still has traces of old Adi that needs to be worked upon. And I want Zoya to be the one who teaches him that not pooja! Hope I made sense 😆
Edited by Dragonfly88 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Brilliant post ⭐️ I just want to say I hope zoya's reason to agree to arshad's proposal makes sense. It would be quite dumb if she agrees only because of a MU between her and Adi
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dragonfly88

I did agree that both of them are wrong in their places for doing something this stupid in the first place. About Zoya, yeah her intention to bring him back was for the happiness of his family but it is also true that she did not think through the consequences. People could have been actually harmed with her decision including her own employees. She was irrational for that one day. Same for Adi, just because he is in love doesn't justify his childish act. He did do something selfish. But haven't we all done something irrational? It's part of life. I didn't have a problem with them showing this actually, Adi still has trades of old Adi that needs to be worked upon. And I want Zoya to be the one who teaches him that not pooja! Hope I made sense 😆


Yes Zoya's employees could have suffered n it was right on Zoya's part to take the blame for the fall bcoz her employees were innocent. So I wouldn't really call that a noble act. It was about setting things right. And Adi's prank too would have had severe consequences. Arshad and Zoya's lives were at peril. And Adi wanting to confess here is the right thing to do on his part coz Zoya n Arshad deserve the truth. We all do something irrational but I guess we also have something called a conscience n we need to pay heed to that. Its OK if we bear the consequences of our irrational act but not if someone else has to pay a price. Yeah Adi needs to work upon that for sure 😆 I doubt if Adi had displayed this pagalpanti for Pooja. Had he done that Pooja would not have felt that romance was missing in her life 😆 He never felt possessive about Pooja and for her that was a let down. This Adi might have traces of the old Adi but certain traits are definitely new n they surfaced thanks to Zoya 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cherryfairy

Brilliant post ⭐️ I just want to say I hope zoya's reason to agree to arshad's proposal makes sense. It would be quite dumb if she agrees only because of a MU between her and Adi

Yeah I really hope it's more than Adi and her fight. Or else it would be too cliched lol.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon



Yes Zoya's employees could have suffered n it was right on Zoya's part to take the blame for the fall bcoz her employees were innocent. So I wouldn't really call that a noble act. It was about setting things right. And Adi's prank too would have had severe consequences. Arshad and Zoya's lives were at peril. And Adi wanting to confess here is the right thing to do on his part coz Zoya n Arshad deserve the truth. We all do something irrational but I guess we also have something called a conscience n we need to pay heed to that. Its OK if we bear the consequences of our irrational act but not if someone else has to pay a price. Yeah Adi needs to work upon that for sure😆I doubt if Adi had displayed this pagalpanti for Pooja. Had he done that Pooja would not have felt that romance was missing in her life😆He never felt possessive about Pooja and for her that was a let down. This Adi might have traces of the old Adi but certain traits are definitely new n they surfaced thanks to Zoya😆

Things could have been redeemable for Adi if he could talk to both of them in private and apologised in the right way. Arshad I'm pretty sure would have understood. But anjana's interference has caused a bigger misunderstanding at the moment. Adi from all point is going to look like a schemer thanks to his mother. Zoya has brought out the majnu in him who needs to calm down sometimes 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dragonfly88

People are messy, they are complicated. Especially when in love we do crazy stupid things. If we are messy then our relationship is bound to be complicated.

That's what caught my attention in the entire messed up situation yesterday.
Aditya and Zoya have both played pranks with a clean intention.

Zoya used her khurafati mind and played a prank when she spread news - Aditya's entire family is missing. For whom? Aditya. She wanted Adi back at any cost, without him, she felt an emptiness. She waited pateintly for a few months after that when she couldn't take it, her love for him fooled her mind into doing something stupid that was equivalent to illegal. But she did not care. She only realized the gravity of the situation when she was standing in handcuffs infront of Anjana. Even then she came clean and told her that she only did it with the intention of getting Adi back.
When Zoya did this prank she thought about it through Adi's mind. Something Adi would do. We saw shades of Adi in her that day.

Aditya used his khurafati mind to make a prank call so he could separate Arshad from Zoya for few hours. He too did it with clean intention. His only intention was to find some alone time with Zoya so he could pour his heart out to her. Stupid? Yes, but again his mind wasn't working, it had lost the ability to think at that point in the party.
When Adi decided to come clean about his prank, he thought through Zoya's mind. It's something Zoya would want Adi to do because jo galat hai woh galat hai. We saw shades of Zoya in him.

Some day, I am sure or I hope so when Zoya realizes her deep feelings for Adi, she will go back to the day of her prank and re-think why she actually did it and how she felt. Then she may realize Adi's intention behind this prank. Because at this moment I dont think the prank itself will be a problem since it was a tiny one but Zoya's trust in Adi will be shaken.

Now about Zoya's slap. Yes it's not something we were expecting out of Zoya because its Adi who does these impulsive things. But no one has a single personality. We are messy.
Love makes us do things we do not expect. It is fairy tale belief that love can only do good. No, sometimes love brings out the worst in each other. Aditya since past week has been doing things which is not expected out of him. Zoya did something which no one was expecting at the party. Only difference is that Zoya does not know she is doing it out of love, she thinks it's her friendship which has caused this sudden rage inside her.

PS- I think Arshad would have spoken to Adi in private if that glass incident didn't happen! But he too couldn't control his rage.


You guys think Zoya didn't hear the entire conversation. I'm keeping my fingers crossed because I really hope she has heard it. If not I really hope it's forgotten like the Paris trip.Some lose ends are better not tied because realisation of love while taking the final vows of marriage is rather too dramatic for my taste and that's the last thing I would want for Aditya-Zoya a simple court marriage would do as they had been married before too but no drama please.
I completely agree to the post that Aditya and Zoya are both messy is many ways than less. I felt the Zoya's slap to Arshad was kind of instinctive and was more for adding the drama quotient in the show than anything else.Adiya marriage won't be a cakewalk because only their tastes are siimilar and not just their way of expressing love but they both as an individual are completely different person. Zoya is more of a secure friend and Aditya an insecure lover and I don't see that changing much even after marriage.

Aditya- Pooja marriage had more elements of friendship than love other than that I feel by nature both were kinds of opposite, Aditya preferred more subtle ways of expressing love but Pooja preferred poetry more of drama which Aditya couldn't understand.

Zoya-Yash's marriage had more elements of love than friendship. But they both were similar in more ways than one. Both were impractical too the core, Yash being the sole bread earner in the family didn't discuss his finances with his wife. Zoya practically worshipped her husband and hence could never be the friend he yearned for.
Edited by enlightenme - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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This is an amazing post. Never remembered or connected the two pranks. So rightfully Zoya cannot be angry with Aditya for his prank ..ie is if SHE connects her prank with this incident.Zoya's prank was in fact a crime but she got away with it because of Harsh whereas poor Aditya is being made to look guilty although his was a more harmless act ...but he gets into trouble ...rushes out to stake his life to save both whereas Zoya is saved by him requesting his father.

Feel sad for Aditya unless Zoya does not distance herself from him for this prank. Hers brought the two closer so rightfully this should cement the tie further.

Truly hope that this is what will happen and AdiYa together track will commence next week along with Arshad's exit.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: deeps07


I have always wondered about these questions too..
Regarding ram letting agnipareeksha happen even when knows sitas innocence...i dnt knw if this is right..but my assumption and possible conclusion is something like this..well ram is human on earth..he is the emperor of his kingdom..he is the symbol of his kingdom..he is followed by his pupils..so rather than being a husband..his first duty as an emporer is towards his people..so even if he accepts sita knowing she is innocent..its basic human nature for atleast some or anyone to.point fingers..and if the emperors character is questioned the whole country and its people suffer..to avoid that he let the agenipareeksha happen.
And regarding mahabharata...u knw ..what i feel.is..the whole.mess was caused because of the bondage of giving words..that era was like that..be it bheeshma..be it karna..all were bonded by their words given without gicing much thought to the horrible outcome it can cause...and this began the very moment bhishma gave his word to never rule the kingdom for satyavati to marry his father..tht was the beginning of the fall ..karna too was bonded with duryodhana..krishna stands for dharma..his ultimate goal is to kill the adhrmis and lighten the burden on mother earth...infact the whole mastermind behind the war was krishnas..
And regarding krishnas birth..my question was actually if kamsa could easily kill all the babiea..why didnt he just kill vasudev in the first place ...anyways..i really dnt have a reasonable answer to tht ..all i get is..prophecies are meant to happen..and what has to happen will always happen no matter how hard we try.. 🤔..i still have no explanation..i would say..kansa being an asura..was rather stupid..😆

I am really curious now sruthi..i want to know ur answer..😛

Yeah what you said about ramayan is exactly the reason my mom had given me back then 😆 but when he married sita didnt he also take the promise to protect her at any cost. I guess he too had to chose between husband's promise and a king's promise.

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