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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pri89

Why so much negativity towards the storyline? Few people regard Zoya as dumb cause of her views towards the affair but nobody is comparing it with ideology that Aditya holds.

All those who are claiming that the CV's are glorifying EMA and cheating can't they see that the other lead is holding the exact opposite thinking as opposed to Zoya's.

Aditya from the beginning hated cheaters and in todays episode itself he cleared it out that poosh were wrong cause they cheated irrespective of the reasons. Zoya on he other hand isn't blaming herself nor putting her dignity at stake, she has merely accepted that her husband fell for someone else.

If we analyze things without biasedness, the CV's have beautifully captured the reaction of two very different individuals towards a particular situation.

People react differently towards the same situation. Here Aditya is angry, which is not wrong and Zoya has accepted the fact to make peace with herself but she has not forgiven yash.

We are used to watch fast moving senseless things on tv.. if something sensible comes we won't give it time to atleast unfold.. they are many series on such themes which have gained appreciation ( and, yes the parallel lead were not shown as gold diggers.. they were shown as respectable peoples who had faults )

We are not ready or such themes.. better to move on with the saas bahu sagas.

There is nothing sensible about an ema or their partners had faults.zoya justifying this ema is immature foolish and she is just trying to rid herself of being a selfish wife who never took an interest in yash affairs but would ruin her relationship wirh her parents just to get what she wants at any cos and that was to be married to yash.
This mess isnt sensible.sleeping around wirh a next man wife or next woman husband lying deceiving getting pregnant wkth a next man child while u still married is sense to be accepted?
No matter what the situation it is wrong to have a physical relationship with another besides ur spouse.so if poosh didnt die would zoya n adi ever know about the affair?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

I Views doesn't mean justification. Justification happens only when the track ends in favour of zoya adi also telling it is paakh. We need to see how it goes before drawing conclusions.



Disagree here, sorry.

If it was only Zoya who said Pakh, that would be another thing. Arjun doesn't say 'unka affair tha', 'rishta tha' --he says unka 'sachcha pyar' tha.

When the same dialogue comes from more than one character-- it is not the view of the character-- it is that of the CVs/ writer.

Yes, Arjun was always partial towards Pooja, but why, despite being supposedly strongly ethical, will he call an extra-marital affair a 'saccha pyar'?

This is subliminal messaging--the viewers are showing two characters believing that people with EMAs have succha pyaar. Doesn't that strike you as strange?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I had no problem with the epi till I saw the precap n till Zoya declared PooSh affair as paak. Is it really mature in any way? Is it progressive? It would be if Zoya made peace with the fact that she erred as a wife but her husband toed the line of dignity. So did Pooja. Their relationship is still pure? Would love to see how CVs redefine the meaning of this word. Adi needs to realise that he was responsible for his marriage failing but I don't want to see him singing Zoya's tune which is what CVs will do coz at the end of the day as female lead is right no matter what. And as for the maturity of this show can u deny that CVs have brought in way too many loopholes already? I love this show for the way it was initially portrayed but I know better than to expect anything from the current lot of shows. U want to see mature n progressive shows? Check out the ones that came in early 90's way before the kekta era kicked in. The maturity with which extra marital affair n other subjects were handled were so beautiful that it makes me feel I am going backwards in time with the regressive plotlines of these so called mature shows that start on a promising note but falter badly in a bid to gain TRPs. I am just a disappointed viewer expressing my views n I don't intend to offend anyone or spoil their mood. Just put forth my views. Having said that if the CVs manage to bring in a sensible twist amidst this craziness I will happily change my opinion.
Edited by BeyondHorizon - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

It's a mature content. You need patience on how the opposite views are going to affect the leads. In the beginning also when zoya was doing yash jaap people were angry. But that delusion broke. But that incident made adi too grow. Again now zoya has accepted but hers is extreme view and adi's another extreme. Views doesn't mean justification. Justification happens only when the track ends in favour of zoya adi also telling it is paakh. We need to see how it goes before drawing conclusions.



And what if it does go in Zoya's favor? The reason why everyone is angry is because big words such as IZZAT and PAAK is being associated with something very mediocre like EMA. EMA breaks thousand dreams so using these words for EMA is clearly wrong. I would be the happiest of all if Zoya's view is proven wrong but the way they are showing Zoya to be so confident and strong I highly doubt she will budge from her view.the show might face severe backlash if at the end Zoya is proven right.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramisaaAli



And what if it does go in Zoya's favor? The reason why everyone is angry is because big words such as IZZAT and PAAK is being associated with something very mediocre like EMA. EMA breaks thousand dreams so using these words for EMA is clearly wrong. I would be the happiest of all if Zoya's view is proven wrong but the way they are showing Zoya to be so confident and strong I highly doubt she will budge from her view.the show might face severe backlash if at the end Zoya is proven right.


Exactly n someone like Arjun who supposedly stands by what is right declared PooSh love sachcha n Zoya who was wronged declared it paak. There is no way CVs will ever show the female lead wrong. So how does it make this show any different from saas bahu saga?
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I see some people saying that the CVs are justifying affairs, and I'm sorry but how did you all even reach that conclusion? One character is trying to understand the circumstances that led to an affair, she is trying to understand what went wrong in her marriage that pushed her husband away. Nothing in today's episode was a justification of EMA. And then overall the CVs are showing multiple viewpoints. If all characters thought like Zoya and they all called Poosh's relationship paakh, then yes I would say this show is justifying EMA. But that's not what we see here! Aditya is the voice of the majority- most of us can agree that Poosh's relationship was far from paakh. Our sentiments are being translated onscreen in the form of Aditya, so please do not go as far as saying this show is promoting/justifying EMA.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: .AngadKripa.

I see some people saying that the CVs are justifying affairs, and I'm sorry but how did you all even reach that conclusion? One character is trying to understand the circumstances that led to an affair, she is trying to understand what went wrong in her marriage that pushed her husband away. Nothing in today's episode was a justification of EMA. And then overall the CVs are showing multiple viewpoints. If all characters thought like Zoya and they all called Poosh's relationship paakh, then yes I would say this show is justifying EMA. But that's not what we see here! Aditya is the voice of the majority- most of us can agree that Poosh's relationship was far from paakh. Our sentiments are being translated onscreen in the form of Aditya, so please do not go as far as saying this show is promoting/justifying EMA.



There are only two "ethical" people (not Papa Hooda because he's grey) who have been shown to read the diary and have an opinion about it. One is Arjun and the other is Zoya.

Arjun called it suchcha pyaar and Zoya called it Paak.

It is not Mahi or Rajveer or Madhu who are saying this--this is Arjun and Zoya, both of whom we have come to like for their ethical stands: Zoya was against the lie of the fake marriage, and Arjun wanted to find the truth of the diary and went so far as to steal it.

Basically, two people the audience respects as having integrity, who have read the diary, give the EMA a validation by calling it pure.

What do you have to say about that?
Edited by Neemsundari - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Your take made me read through your entire post and all responses recorded here...
Until yesterday I was one among those who raised hands against people sending tweets to writers and hindering them from doing their job ...i felt people were impatient in social media for turning out into a Zoya Vs Adi drama making one a saint and the other a baddie..

But then , yesterdays diary reading n imagining affair scene by scene n breaking down from a wife POV about her lover husband was beyond ridiculous ...

Who is a friend ? Who is a lover ? and what is that which a husband can and a friend cant ...vice versa as well ...I personally feel the writers are stuck in between these two roles n trying to differentiate one from other they are building a web n caught themselves in between without that thin line of separation...

All I ask for is - a small relatable link with audience ...however matured I am I would not let my friend in my personal room n however the husband is I would not want him in my friend's personal space...SIMPLE what do you think ??
If Yash/Pooja have gone out of marriage commitment finding peace in another man/woman then at least show some withdrawal in your first relationship ...You cant show things were so lovely dovey with the first marriage when you have already walked out n progressed with an affair. Absurd if things were so good wouldnt you just talk with spouse about him/her not being a friend or not showing any love...

Still holding on to hopes to find something turning out sensible n relatable in this show just for the sake of the lead actors whom I love watching ...Fingers crossed !!

While i dont want to sound negative I feel the outrage is anticipated when you handle such sensitive issues like marriage n affair - women are the target audience of the show.!!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I think we need to relax .remember we shpuldnt be knowing about poojas preg yet..so considering that we dnt knw abt poosh preg..and we just saw yest poosh start of a relation..well..i dnt think i would have been this angry with zoya for still.routing for.poosh..poosh and adiya..everybody had no idea how to handle an institution called marrg...they just showed that yest..and no..i dnt feel poosh were justified..pooja herself said in precap humara rishta duniya keliye najaais tha..(.yes hell it was..if they were having affair for 2 years and still couldnt muster the courage to tell the truth to spouses..it was cruelty to them.)..so somehow...cvs are explaining it was both wrong and yet sad truth of the duos life ...but yea..it was the truth..and zoya is routing for the truth..
And cvs are countering her thru adityas words..aditya is voicing out exactly our mind..so i fee..ita not really cvs against common conception...they are just showing the two sides of the coin..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Initially I definitely had a negative reaction to Zoya's attitude towards Adi. However I do think they are going about it the right way now and I liked in the past two episodes how she explains her point of view to him and somewhat do agree with her.
This is real life, people fall in love and out of love. We need to watch this with less judgement and open our hearts and minds when listening to Poosh's story. I like and commend Zoya because she realizes her limitations and admits her mistakes which Adi has yet to learn. He does not want to face that he could have hurt Pooja. Ofcourse Poosh was wrong but then is there any right way to end a marriage when you fall out of love? I think that is what the show is exploring.

You see divorces all around you and broken homes with spouses cheating. You also see people who have second marriages and find their 'true' love. I like that BP is exploring the reality of marriage and not some romanticized version where nothing ever goes wrong.

But also to finally add Zoya and Arjun using cheesy words like Paak and sacha pyaar and all is cringe and weird. No normal wife or brother in law would give that name to an extramarital affair. This weird thing both of them are doing to Poosh relationship is creepy and obsessive 😆
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