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Posted: 7 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: roshaniD

Agree with the post... I know of a friend who's husband was caught having an EMA. After the initial fights and crying my friend too realized her mistakes in the relationship as well. But the couple, both agreed that having an EMA was not right nor justifiable. They got a divorce which was a very smooth process as the husband let my friend do what she wanted in order to get the divorce quickly as possible cuz he knew he was in the wrong.
Though my friend has not yet forgiven the husband for the cheating, they are now good friends. She actually helps him out with his current love life as well, advising him etc.
I don't know what you might think of my friend, doormat, pushover, delusional but I see my friend HAPPY. She chose to move on rather than having a grudge and fester anger within her.
They are a great couple of friends but just wasn't meant to be married.


I know someone similar.
The husband and wife divorced after he cheated, but they continue to remain friends. The man continued his relationship with the woman he cheated his wife on, and this may sound weird as hell but the wife is also friendly with the other woman. The relationship between the other woman and the husband may have not been 'pure' for they ended up hurting someone else very badly, but it turns out whatever they have had wasn't fake either. They are still going strong after several years and all THREE of them are in a very happy space now. I am not justifying anything here, however, just it being an EMA doesnt mean the love cannot be true. Yes, 'pure' is stretching it too far, but not sure why everyone is up in arms about Arjun terming it as true love.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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4 me adiya r not at mistakes why coz they were not aware only,as poosh never let them know , poosh created a delusional world around them where everything was perfect , poosh portray themselves as perfect spouses. If adiya were aware of poosh's problem & still they don't work on it or correct it , then adiya r on mistake 2 Varna 100% fault is of poosh.
Yash se jyada mujhe Pooja se nafrat ho gayi hai. I m sure d house she was looking 4 her & Yash would had been buyied by adi's money
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Posted: 7 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: ramisaaAli

Wow this is I think one of the best things I have read today.

You are right. We are so busy concentraiting on Zoya that we forgot that Adi has his opinion too, an opinion which is similar to ours. However, in Zoya's case I am sorry right now the only emotion I have towards her is anger, that paak dialogue was disgusting. And I hope in the future adi can put some sense into her.
The reason why everyone is so angry because it's Zoya who said that line, the female lead. Her saying such a pathetic line in a way shows that she is or the CVs are trying to show her as a "Mahan" person. And it's more like that man crushed her dignity but she is still supporting him. Calling the EMA paak was something the CVS shouldn't have done.


She isn't mahan but she can't do anything right now. She have already lost everything. Only thing she can do is let go of yash and pooja respectfully. We can't forever carry on the hurt. We must let go. She has to move on with peace.

Aur ghabrao mat,, hamara adi hai na reality check ke liye! 😆 Whenever Zoya unrealistically emotional Aditya drags her back to practicality.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Flame.


I know someone similar.
The husband and wife divorced after he cheated, but they continue to remain friends. The man continued his relationship with the woman he cheated his wife on, and this may sound weird as hell but the wife is also friendly with the other woman. The relationship between the other woman and the husband may have not been 'pure' for they ended up hurting someone else very badly, but it turns out whatever they have had wasn't fake either. They are still going strong after several years and all THREE of them are in a very happy space now. I am not justifying anything here, however, just it being an EMA doesnt mean the love cannot be true. Yes, 'pure' is stretching it too far, but not sure why everyone is up in arms about Arjun terming it as true love.


Thanks for sharing.. Even though these things hurt a lot but these people are brave to give life another chance and move on. We have to realize that no matter how much we love someone but some people are not for us.. that doesn't essentially means that they are wrong. These people have found good friends among themselves and are in a happy space now. They chose to rise above their pain.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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The major problem is that Paak rishta dialogue because pooja and yash's affection towards one another can be understood till one but that doesn't justify their relationship. If they would have informed their partners or quit their current relationship & then moved ahead was justifiable . The truth remains same they both cheated on their respective spouses while their partners had no clue as to how they were breaking their trust . They broke the faith & trust that Adi & Zoya had on them .
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: neetha

Well, i would like to clearly make a very unbiased pov out here!


There is nothing wrong in falling in love all over again when they are in a relationship with someone. PooSh has their marriages not in such a good state. Pooja found love in Yash and he found understanding/friendship in her. They completed each other and I would say that is definitely not wrong!

Aditya had been the awesomest to pooja and Zoya has immensely loved yash!

But the justification that cv's have tried giving to the characters is not acceptable as per me! Falling in love and connecting to someone when you are with someone is definitely not wrong, but cheating on their partners is! IF yash and Pooja had the audacity to tell their respective partners about the truth of them falling for someone else, i would be okay! I am sure the major fandom would be okay! Cheating is not acceptable and to top it zoya calling their relationship "paak" is bullshit!

No one is angry on zoya's pov of understanding PooSh. I am completely on her side when she understands that lack of certain aspects ruined their marriage, but that flaws of zoya and aditya, doesnt give the right to to yash and pooja for cheating on them! Come on who has no flaws, Every human is flawed!

Pooja called aditya her best friend, then how is that she couldnt talk it out to her husband and tell him, what she expected in the marriage? forget it all, why couldnt she just explain aditya that she is willing to move on as she is in love with someone- i am sure this would break Adi but, he would let go her considering he is the best fren she could have

Yash, agreed how innocent and unique zoya was, He confesses that he loved her truly, then in that case doesnt it mean yash took advantage of zoya's innocence??? They dint have friendship, but they did have love(according to yash they did), Does love not demand honesty?

I am not convinced with the way cv's have tried justifying the betrayal! They better come up with clear justification to give a clear chit to Poosh! I have absolutely no issue with PooSh falling in love!


If the CV's have given a greater screen time to Pooja and Aditya toh aur details mein malum padta affair kyu shuru hua 😆 .. Pooja and Yash helplessly fell in love. Nope but on a serious note, a greater detail on their storyline would have helped but it's the viewers who are not interested in their story.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MS-meghasharma

The major problem is that Paak rishta dialogue because pooja and yash's affection towards one another can be understood till one but that doesn't justify their relationship. If they would have informed their partners or quit their current relationship & then moved ahead was justifiable . The truth remains same they both cheated on their respective spouses while their partners had no clue as to how they were breaking their trust . They broke the faith & trust that Adi & Zoya had on them .


They died before informing their partners.. They wanted to move out and divorce their spouses according to spoilers.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: -Tulips-

Ermm so just because Arjun called it sachha pyaar and Zoya called paak rishta, the cvs are justifying EMA? What about the scenes in yesterday's episode where they showed Yash and Pooja not understanding their spouses? Wasn't Pooja wrong by saying that her relationship with Adi affected because of his problems with his dad? Why? Was Adi venting his anger for Papa Hooda on Pooja? Is he that kind of a guy who treats his wife as his punching bag? So just because he left the party he became a bad husband for her? Didn't they show understanding issues from Pooja's side too?

Yash ji said his Zoya is a delicate darling who lives in la la land. Why didn't he bring her to reality as her husband? Why did he made her live in la la land? Because he underestimated her and didn't understand her. While learning to ride a cycle, a kid falls down numerous times and gets hurt but still the parents help the kid in getting up and learn to ride it. If they feel, Oh! my kid would be hurt if he/she learns to ride and then go on to complain others, my kid is good for nothing. Usko cycle chalana bhi nahi aata, whom will u blame? The kid or the parent? I am comparing Zoya with a kid because that's how she has been treated by the men in her life except Adi.

So basically, they showed problems from PooSh side too. Aditya will always be the voice of the viewers as always since the beginning. He will always oppose Zoya and I feel by the end of this track, he is not going to be on the losing side. If Zoya makes him believe he had some issues with Pooja which he didn't realize then Adi too will make her believe it's not fair to blame herself for her husband cheating on her and the fault lies in them too.


I completely agree with you Subha.
I do not think CVs are justifying EMA and throughout the epi, I never felt so. I feel all of the four made mistakes and I am happy that Zoya is owning up her mistakes. What Yash did to Zoya was a grave mistake. He protected her inside a cage, or i must say a golden cage, he didn't allow her to fly which was his mistake. He should have pushed her beyond her limits and when she falls down he should have been the first one to pick her up like a supportive husband. He didn't which was wrong.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: BeyondHorizon


Exactly n someone like Arjun who supposedly stands by what is right declared PooSh love sachcha n Zoya who was wronged declared it paak. There is no way CVs will ever show the female lead wrong. So how does it make this show any different from saas bahu saga?


We have Aditya, the main lead also. 😉 It's practical vs emotional. And, as always zoya learns something from adi and vice versa. The CV's will emphasize on both Zoya's and Aditya's POV.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Through all these arguments, you must have realized the difference in opinion.. You are absolutely not wrong neither is the other TM. Now put the same situation in Aditya & Zoya's case. They are not wrong in their place. Zoya is not dumb neither emotional, she is just respecting of what remains. It shows strength of character. There's nothing left in her hands to hold on it. And, yes she will give priority to yash over aditya right now.. but with gradual progression of life she will understand Aditya's POV and Aditya will understand Zoya's. That's how we evolve. We all are aditya cause we all are practical that's why we are having a hard time relating to Zoya. But, think like Zoya for a moment. It's more hard for a women to accept these facts and I guess Zoya wants to get done with it. Accept the reality & move on. One can't carry the hurt forever.



Zoya is not dumb neither emotional, she is just respecting of what remains. It shows strength of character.: I don't think this is strength---it is blind stubborn-ness and refusal to face facts. There's noneed to glorify her husband's EMA with someone and call it 'sacred'-- she could have just said, he was a philanderer, but not a murderer--and I want to just bring the truth out, and get it over with. So, definitely dumb and emotional. Why not call the EMA and EMA, why Paak pyaar?


And, yes she will give priority to yash over aditya right now.: I don't care about this, she can give Aditya as low a priority as she wants, (he's a friend, whereas she'd loved Yash for a long while) but she can't keep praising her husband and his EMA.


It's more hard for a women to accept these facts and I guess Zoya wants to get done with it. Accept the reality & move on. One can't carry the hurt forever.: It is precisely this portrayal of women that I have a problem with. Why can't women be shown as they are: practical and normal? Why must the lead always be OTT? How is it 'accepting reality and moving on' if she calls her husband's fling with a married woman a paak pyar??

So no, there's no difference in opinion here. A lot of women on this thread are simply ignoring the fact that a protag's dialogues have an importance in a story--if she calls an EMA 'sacred love' it is different from a supporting actor doing the same. Aditya is wrong on many counts about his thoughts on what a good husband he was (he has never gone chasing another woman, tho), but Zoya is ABSOLUTELY wrong to glorify an EMA by using terms like PAAK PYAAR to what is a selfish, cheap and cowardly affair.

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