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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Amri-

Yeah, another thing that irks me about the show- lack of attention to detail.



1. Manjeeta doesn't condone his son's rebellion and his siding with Lakhan?


2. Mithilesh, as an anxious parent should have ideally accompanied everyone to fetch his kids. They should've had a scene showing Phulan asking him not to come or something.


Your first point definitely makes sense I don't understand how Manjeeta can allow something like that to happen considering how strict he was in Poonam's case. This makes me suspect further that he's plotting with Bindiya.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaJanLuv14


Your first point definitely makes sense I don't understand how Manjeeta can allow something like that to happen considering how strict he was in Poonam's case. This makes me suspect further that he's plotting with Bindiya.



Thanks:) I am incredulous about his loyalty, which is very extreme. He doesn't care about his daughter, wife or son at all. It'd be awesome if they show him with a hidden agenda. "Honest Iago" is the best kind of trope there is.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I was thinking about making another post, but remembered this one. Thanks @Amri for making my job easy 😉 ... Some more points I would like to add ...

Can the creatives stop portraying their female protagonist as a willing doormat !!! Limit of ablaa-ness & bichari-ness !!! She was portrayed as thanking mr. kidnapper yesterday !! Ridiculous and unbelievable !!!!

Off-late, the whole Thakur family is being portrayed as absolutely devoid of any intelligence & common sense whatsoever. The creatives have literally converted them into a bunch of idiots, running chaotically. Even Lakhan is possessing more intelligence than both the PT's; defeating them using, unbelievably, his brain, which even a few days earlier was nonexistent !!! It's now absolutely unconvincing that PT actually runs a parallel administration in the district and nobody dares to protest.

The kidnapping of the kids was even more ridiculous. Bindiya & Ghungru could kidnap the Thakur kids from their own front porch and that too under broad daylight !!! Nobody did even for a second bothered to ponder over the fact that how the kids could be kidnapped from a heavily guarded house so easily and subsequently can be parceled to LT, in case some insider is not involved !!!

Kidnapping of children, using them as baits to force the respective family to bend to do anything including a forced marriage, abusive relationship are not uncommon, but they are punishable offences by law as well. I'm really surprised that the creatives are actually glorifying these social evils through their show !!

Anyways, Bhushan Thakur seems to have vanished into thin air out-of-the-blue !!!

Whenever I watch any series (I generally watch a single one at a time), I do that for the theme, story-line & characterizations; not for any particular actor or actress or chemistry. I do appreciate every actor's hard-work; but for me an actor & the character he/she is portraying are always separate entities. Now-a-days, I'm not enjoying this series due to absolute absurdity, chaotic logic or no logic and immoral things being portrayed. The only saving grace, I feel, is the brilliant acting capabilities of the actors portraying PT and both MTs.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandrima02

I was thinking about making another post, but remembered this one. Thanks @Amri for making my job easy 😉 ... Some more points I would like to add ...

Can the creatives stop portraying their female protagonist as a willing doormat !!! Limit of ablaa-ness & bichari-ness !!! She was portrayed as thanking mr. kidnapper yesterday !! Ridiculous and unbelievable !!!!

Off-late, the whole Thakur family is being portrayed as absolutely devoid of any intelligence & common sense whatsoever. The creatives have literally converted them into a bunch of idiots, running chaotically. Even Lakhan is possessing more intelligence than both the PT's; defeating them using, unbelievably, his brain, which even a few days earlier was nonexistent !!! It's now absolutely unconvincing that PT actually runs a parallel administration in the district and nobody dares to protest.

The kidnapping of the kids was even more ridiculous. Bindiya & Ghungru could kidnap the Thakur kids from their own front porch and that too under broad daylight !!! Nobody did even for a second bothered to ponder over the fact that how the kids could be kidnapped from a heavily guarded house so easily and subsequently can be parceled to LT, in case some insider is not involved !!!

Kidnapping of children, using them as baits to force the respective family to bend to do anything including a forced marriage, abusive relationship are not uncommon, but they are punishable offences by law as well. I'm really surprised that the creatives are actually glorifying these social evils through their show !!

Anyways, Bhushan Thakur seems to have vanished into thin air out-of-the-blue !!!

Whenever I watch any series (I generally watch a single one at a time), I do that for the theme, story-line & characterizations; not for any particular actor or actress or chemistry. I do appreciate every actor's hard-work; but for me an actor & the character he/she is portraying are always separate entities. Now-a-days, I'm not enjoying this series due to absolute absurdity, chaotic logic or no logic and immoral things being portrayed. The only saving grace, I feel, is the brilliant acting capabilities of the actors portraying PT and both MTs.


You're welcome, Chandrima!😊

This whole track is preposterous. First of all, I do not have the gumption to see little children on the verge of getting killed. I do know that such horrible, horrible things happen in reality. I am not naive, but I prefer my TV fictional choices to be more pleasant.


I don't know how Lakhan has suddenly been endowed with brains, so much so that he knew of Priyom's plan to use Dolt. And Dolt himself is such a nincompoop, to have him fooling Daroga to the hideout was too much.


And I frankly do not see how there can be any redemption whatsoever for Lakhan. A man who burnt alive an entire family, is abusive, cares two hoots for his blood relations, sees his fiancee as his property, and wanted to kill his own niece and nephew. Too much!


To top it all none of the Thakurs seem to glean that a traitor is there in their midst. Another grouse of mine is when Danger Daadi blamed Poonam of all people for their misfortunes! 🤢 I mean, she was always portrayed as a feminist, who firmly believed in women's agency and who recognized the workings of patriarchy. But to show her reacting this way is disheartening. Perhaps she has lost her ability to reason because of her love for her great-grand children, but still...disappointing.🥱


Don't want to see Poonam marrying Lakhan and going through abuse on a day-to-day basis. I'll quit the moment it happens.I do not want to see yet another portrayal of a damsel in distress rescued by her knight in shining armour- Priyom, not to mention that she is a married woman! I do not have any desire to continue watching that and upsetting my mood.


Right now I am sticking with this show only because of Phoolan Thakur, who upheld his sense of duty and justice even under a testing time. He was perhaps the only one who showed his nobility and righteousness even when the lives of his grandchildren were endangered, along with Priyom who seems to be an able successor.



So what is your opinion- will Poonam be married off to Lakhan? Two things are ominous to me in this context.


1. The married woman whom Priyom helped in Patna was also abused by her husband. Foreshadowing?


2. Poonam had said that she'd die than live with Lakhan. Perhaps she'll try to kill herself after the marriage?


Both things are extremely unpalatable for me, esp. the second. I want Shivangi to continue with the show and for Poonam to emerge as a strong, independent woman with her own opinions. Par shayad mein bahut bada sapna dekh rahi hoon.


To speak of the only good thing that came out of this track- Darshan Dave and Vaishnavi Dhanraj got the scope to perform, and acted extremely well as helpless, anxious parents.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Amri (What's your name?) you have mirrored my thoughts. So true ...

Darshan Dave, Vaishnavi Dhanraj and Narendra Jha are really THE saving graces. They are simply fabulous throughout this absolutely sick & gut-wrenching track. I simply could not quit due their sheer screen-presence & acting; otherwise I am in no mood to watch something which is downright immoral to it's core.

I so wish Shivangi Joshi continues, as she is really doing justice to her role. But Poonam as a character repels me now, with having absolutely no trait to be proud of (No, I don't believe in illogical, idiotic sacrifices.). Compared to her even Lakhan, who has been reduced to a diabolic monster, has got a few traits to be proud of e.g. courage, determination, confidence and perseverance !!! I have got no hope that she would be revived.

Lakhan, the less said is the better. In case the creatives do portray him somehow marrying Poonam, that would be it for me as well. I won't be able to palate an abusive relationship between an ablaa bichari naari & a psycho-cum-murderer-cum-kidnapper-cum-drug-smuggler, a probable budding extra-marital-affair or the same psycho-cum-murderer-cum-kidnapper-cum-drug-smuggler transforming into a positive character, with no punishment, by the virtue of this marriage, Poonam and her "love".

Maya has been a revelation during this particular track. It was commendable how this character held her ground till the end maintaining that she is not ready to sacrifice Poonam, whom she considers as her daughter, in order to get back her own children. This actually requires a pure & selfless heart and immense love. Really commendable !!!

Apart from a few incidents, Phulan Thakur has been absolutely righteous from the very beginning. None, even his Amma, could force him doing an injustice. Really commendable !!!

Feminist & logical Badi Granny has been reduced to a mere bickering lady, who is an absolute failure in controlling her obstinate grandsons and is not ready to admit the same. So she has identified a silent scapegoat on whom the whole blame can be transferred without any whatsoever protest.

In a nut shell, a great potential with amazing actors, seems unfortunately going down the drains 😡 😔 😒 !!!
Edited by chandrima02 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandrima02

@Amri (What's your name?) you have mirrored my thoughts. So true ...

Darshan Dave, Vaishnavi Dhanraj and Narendra Jha are really THE saving graces. They are simply fabulous throughout this absolutely sick & gut-wrenching track. I simply could not quit due their sheer screen-presence & acting; otherwise I am in no mood to watch something which is downright immoral to it's core.

I so wish Shivangi Joshi continues, as she is really doing justice to her role. But Poonam as a character repels me now, with having absolutely no trait to be proud of (No, I don't believe in illogical, idiotic sacrifices.). Compared to her even Lakhan, who has been reduced to a diabolic monster, has got a few traits to be proud of e.g. courage, determination, confidence and perseverance !!! I have got no hope that she would be revived.

Lakhan, the less said is the better. In case the creatives do portray him somehow marrying Poonam, that would be it for me as well. I won't be able to palate an abusive relationship between an ablaa bichari naari & a psycho-cum-murderer-cum-kidnapper-cum-drug-smuggler, a probable budding extra-marital-affair or the same psycho-cum-murderer-cum-kidnapper-cum-drug-smuggler transforming into a positive character, with no punishment, by the virtue of this marriage, Poonam and her "love".

Maya has been a revelation during this particular track. It was commendable how this character held her ground till the end maintaining that she is not ready to sacrifice Poonam, whom she considers as her daughter, in order to get back her own children. This actually requires a pure & selfless heart and immense love. Really commendable !!!

Apart from a few incidents, Phulan Thakur has been absolutely righteous from the very beginning. None, even his Amma, could force him doing an injustice. Really commendable !!!

Feminist & logical Badi Granny has been reduced to a mere bickering lady, who is an absolute failure in controlling her obstinate grandsons and is not ready to admit the same. So she has identified a silent scapegoat on whom the whole blame can be transferred without any whatsoever protest.

In a nut shell, a great potential with amazing actors, seems unfortunately going down the drains 😡 😔 😒 !!!



Hi! I am Amrutha😊

Can I just say that each and every thought of yours in this post reflects mine😳


These actors and Sulbha Arya are the only saving grace of this show, or it's just like any other on TV. Unfortunately, I am sticking with it for the same reason.
Even the younger ones like Sartaj, Vishal and Shivangi are convincing, though there is scope for improvement. Some of the other shows on TV have some pretty inexpressive faces.



And yeah, really surprised by the way Maya held her ground against Mithilesh. She did not even hesitate for a moment regarding her decision. Her dialogue about how Poonam is one of her children, and how she can't blind herself in one eye to save the other was really heart-warming.👏



So that only leaves Poonam to rise to the occasion. Her sacrifice doesn't count as one, rather it is an act of cowardice. Let's hope Priyom is able to sniff that something is weird, and save this idiotic girl. I don't know why she is holding up her end of the bargain with Lakhan. You don't uphold your end of the bargain with a murderer and a child-kidnapper, there is no sense of honour involved there. She should just tell Priyom about it so that they can keep their eyes and ears open and save the children or any other family member in the event of an attack.



So what do you think- will the marriage happen? Something tells me it will The precap wherein an unknowing Priyom smiles at Poonam is full of foreboding. Let's see🥱
Edited by -Amri- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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nice post dear😊...aap hi nahi jisne bhi iss show ko kuch different hone k karan dekhna suru kiya tha,wo sab yahi feel karte hain...pr mughe jo baate iss time sabse jyada khatak rahi hain, wo ye hain...

1- ek aise show jahaan romance side track hona chahiye tha,usme ye zabardasti ka pyar aur shaadi ka drama(mera bheja pahle patna track aur uske baad iss punnu paao movement ne fry kar diya,in my pov. show ki watt yahi se lagni suru hui hai😡)ghussa diya gaya😡...iss drame ki main thing power and position k liye teen bhaiyo ka clash hona chahiye tha,pr nahi usse cry baby punnu pr le aake latka diya gaya(in my pov. iss show ki main theme kabhi prinam or laakham ki love story nahi honi chahiye)

2-iss show ki jaan iske sharp,grey shades wale characters the,pr cv ek taraf se sare main characters ko chaupat karne me lage hain😡...punnu me jo positive change aaya the,usse bhula k fir se usse cry baby mode pr ley aa diya gaya,pt stupid ki tarah behave kar raha hai aur priyom ko jiss tarah ye ekdum mahan aatama banane me lage hain,mughe toh darr hai kahi usse begusarai ka naitik or aham naa bana dey...pr sabse jyada gussa mughe laakhan ko full negetive banane pr aa raha hai,jiski koi jaroorat nahi thi,grey shades wale characters se strory unpredictable rahti hai aur usse kisi bhi way me turn kiya jaa sakta hai,pr itthe cv sab chaupat karne me lage hain😡

3- show me joru bindiya honi chahiye thi wo bhi bhaiyo k ego k karan naa ki koi uss se pyar karta isliye😡

4-thoda logic and sense bhi use karte toh accha hota,iss poore punnu paao movement me logic ki maa-bahan kar di gayi hai...i mean samgh hi nahi aa raha tha ki begusarai,Bihar me hai ya kisi island me jo bahri dunia ko pataa hi nahi ki itne powerful thakur family me ho kya rahaa hai😕...na police,na administration,na common log...lag raha hai begusarai me kewak ek hi family exist karti hai 😕

5- talented actors ko waste karna...maya,mithilesh,pt,bhushan etc ka role play karne wale actor ka aur better use story me kiya jaa sakta hai
aur kya bole itna hi kahenge cv ne kuch new present karne ka accha chance gawa diya,mai ab bhi show kewal isliye dekh rahi hoon,kyoki tv pr baaki jagah bhi kewal nautanki hi parosi jaa rahi hai,toh ek new nautanki me bheja khapane se better hai isse hi jab tak dekh sakte hain dekhe😔

Edited by mai_manmauji - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Amrutha, how could I miss Sulbha Arya and Nandini Sengupta as well !!! My bad.

My point is there is no whatsoever obligation for Poonam to keep her idiotic words once the kids are back. Her attitude towards LT should be "as you sow, so you reap", simple !! But no, she is THE mahaan, THE all-sacrificing Poonam Kumari !!! I hope the marriage does not take place and I can continue watching this series. Otherwise, I have to take a painstaking effort to find a new one !!!

Tina, "Poonam pao movement" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 !!! I had actually mentioned in one of my very first posts in this forum that inn love-stories ke chakkar mein the creatives should not derail the actual story-line !!! I did not know that I could predict as well 😉 !!!
Edited by chandrima02 - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: mai_manmauji

nice post dear😊...aap hi nahi jisne bhi iss show ko kuch different hone k karan dekhna suru kiya tha,wo sab yahi feel karte hain...pr mughe jo baate iss time sabse jyada khatak rahi hain, wo ye hain...

1- ek aise show jahaan romance side track hona chahiye tha,usme ye zabardasti ka pyar aur shaadi ka drama(mera bheja pahle patna track aur uske baad iss punnu paao movement ne fry kar diya,in my pov. show ki watt yahi se lagni suru hui hai😡)ghussa diya gaya😡...iss drame ki main thing power and position k liye teen bhaiyo ka clash hona chahiye tha,pr nahi usse cry baby punnu pr le aake latka diya gaya(in my pov. iss show ki main theme kabhi prinam or laakham ki love story nahi honi chahiye)

2-iss show ki jaan iske sharp,grey shades wale characters the,pr cv ek taraf se sare main characters ko chaupat karne me lage hain😡...punnu me jo positive change aaya the,usse bhula k fir se usse cry baby mode pr ley aa diya gaya,pt stupid ki tarah behave kar raha hai aur priyom ko jiss tarah ye ekdum mahan aatama banane me lage hain,mughe toh darr hai kahi usse begusarai ka naitik or aham naa bana dey...pr sabse jyada gussa mughe laakhan ko full negetive banane pr aa raha hai,jiski koi jaroorat nahi thi,grey shades wale characters se strory unpredictable rahti hai aur usse kisi bhi way me turn kiya jaa sakta hai,pr itthe cv sab chaupat karne me lage hain😡

3- show me joru bindiya honi chahiye thi wo bhi bhaiyo k ego k karan naa ki koi uss se pyar karta isliye😡

4-thoda logic and sense bhi use karte toh accha hota,iss poore punnu paao movement me logic ki maa-bahan kar di gayi hai...i mean samgh hi nahi aa raha tha ki begusarai,Bihar me hai ya kisi island me jo bahri dunia ko pataa hi nahi ki itne powerful thakur family me ho kya rahaa hai😕...na police,na administration,na common log...lag raha hai begusarai me kewak ek hi family exist karti hai 😕

5- talented actors ko waste karna...maya,mithilesh,pt,bhushan etc ka role play karne wale actor ka aur better use story me kiya jaa sakta hai
aur kya bole itna hi kahenge cv ne kuch new present karne ka accha chance gawa diya,mai ab bhi show kewal isliye dekh rahi hoon,kyoki tv pr baaki jagah bhi kewal nautanki hi parosi jaa rahi hai,toh ek new nautanki me bheja khapane se better hai isse hi jab tak dekh sakte hain dekhe😔



Absolutely. Ye show Begusarai mein hone waale adhikaar ke liye jung ke baare mein tha. Lekin isse bhi aur shows jaisa hii bana diya hai.


Laakhan ko thoda grey hi rakha jaata toh acha hota. Abb usse seriously hii nahi le sakte. Poora ka poora villain ban gaya hai.



Mujhe iss baat se problem nahi hai ki Poonam ke wajah se do bhaiyon ke beech problem hui. Woh twist achcha tha IMO kyonki sab samajhte hein ki bindiya ki wajah se Mithilesh aur Priyom mein problems hongi. Lekin agar Lakhan ko bhadkaana tha toh Poonam ko involve karna zarrori tha. Lekin jis tareeke se yeh twist execute kiya gaya hai mujhe usse problem hai.



Saare ke saare acche actors hein. Meri sirf yahi ichcha hai ki unke potential ko use karke humein acche plots dein yeh writers.


Thanks for replying!😊
Edited by -Amri- - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandrima02

Amrutha, how could I miss Sulbha Arya and Nandini Sengupta as well !!! My bad.

My point is there is no whatsoever obligation for Poonam to keep her idiotic words once the kids are back. Her attitude towards LT should be "as you sow, so you reap", simple !! But no, she is THE mahaan, THE all-sacrificing Poonam Kumari !!! I hope the marriage does not take place and I can continue watching this series. Otherwise, I have to take a painstaking effort to find a new one !!!

Tina, "Poonam pao movement" 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 !!! I had actually mentioned in one of my very first posts in this forum that inn love-stories ke chakkar mein the creatives should not derail the actual story-line !!! I did not know that I could predict as well 😉 !!!


Yes Chandrima. Both of them are stellar. And even Shweta Tiwari, I am surprised by how well she's doing this seductress/manipulator role. It's perhaps the last thing you expect of an Ekta Kapoor heroine. She's actually impressed me a lot with this show.


God, I was so infuriated by Poo's scapegoat act in yesterday's episode. And they butchered Badi Amma's character further😡 She's so obsessed with the welfare of her own family that she doesn't care for the life of a young girl who is incidentally her grandson's fiancee. And her dialogue about how she'll pray for Poonam's happiness wherever she is- delusional much🤢


Abb toh mujhe lagta hai ki Poonam aur Laakhan ki shadi ho jayegi🥱
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