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Krupali

@Krupali

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Posted: 10 years ago

#11

Thnxx for the warm welcome dear..! 😳

Originally posted by: mai_manmauji
aur wo kewal isliye ki uske issi nature ne thakur family ki supremacy begusarai me banaye rakhne me bahut help ki aur itni ki thi ki mithi jaisa egostic insaan apne ego n pt k decision k against jaake usse apne paale me rakhna chahta tha...jab usse kabhi punish nahi kiya gaya iss tarah k behaviour k liye toh punnu k case me sabke samne punish karna aur marriage break karna galat tha..

amm..! my take differ here, bt will choose not to go further in it...

i know aap ye bolna chati ho ki thakur family ki supremacy ka reason kewal laakhan ki dabbangai nahi thi...agree wid u,but ye bhi sach hai ki iss family k rivals ko niptane me sabse bada role ab tak ussi ka raha hai(mithi acknowledged that)😊

I want to add here that Mithi does not want to control Laakhan only bcoz of the fear he has created for himself in the minds of the people.. he wouldn't do it bcoz taking Laakhan's help to control people, will be a blow to his ego as he thinks himself to be the supreme!

He wants to control him bcoz he believes that the person who can be prove a threat to u OR who works under u, should always be crushed.. he believes that an owner and his men cannot hv a friend like relations.. and thats why he dislikes PT's behavior/relations with Majhita and even Bhushan.. he has even mentioned this once..

Originally posted by: mai_manmauji
well i don't agree,manchita ne bhi apni bibi haath uthaya hai,mithi ne maya ko mentally torture kiya aur haath uthane ki dhamki di...even bhushan ne bhi openly apni wife ko gussa aane pr belt se pitaa hai(lakkhan n mithi k jhagre ko jab pri ne roka tha, tab flash back scene me isse show kiya gaya tha)opper se ghar ki saari ladies ko apne patiyo k kisi bhi decision pr question raise karne ki permission nahi hai,chahe wo sahi ho ya galat...aise me lakkhiya se ye umeed karna ki uska attitude sabse alag ho ga bevkoofi hai

(@Rekha-Bhushan scene... it was not FB scene I guess... wasn't that Rekha's imagination?!! 😕)

Well, I agree that other men are no saints! and as it is said na ki when a person gets too involved in outside world, he couldn't see what's going on inside his own house.. and the same happened with PT.. the thing that made difference in Laakhan's case is that his deeds came out in front of everyone while other happened behind the doors.. and that's the irony!

bt I appreciate PT's calm toned threat when he warned other men that he would not tolerate ill treatment of women under his raj! 👏

...and now if we see at this thing, only Priyom is the one in the house who at least does not ill treat women (not counting Rajkumar in this list.. 😛 wo abhi bachcha he!! 😆) ya! he flirts with them, has affairs with them bt he does not do anything against their wish or force them.. all know abt his bumblebee type of nature and yet they chose to be with him with their own will.. so, it's not he z cheating on them.. so.. in all senses, he is a 'dil-fenk gentleman!' 😉 😆 😆

about Marriage... if PT has not cancelled the marriage and just ordered Laakhan to stay away frm Poonam or would hv send Poonam away.. do u think Laakhan would hv accepted that without any objection?.. at least I don't think so! as he himself said that he does not believe in 'khairat' bt achieving things by his power.. he does not believe in winning them bt in overpowering them..

'who is Phoolan Thakur to order me?' he would hv begin from there.. and would hv tortured Poonam even more jst to show PT that he cannot order him, he will do whatever he wants, no one can stop him..

Originally posted by: mai_manmauji
well dear peaceful successor kewal true democracy me select hote hain,baaki jagah toh maar hona fix hai,rahi baat kisi ko king accept karne ki toh teeno k alag hone k baad last me jeet ussi ki hoti jo sabse jyada kabil hota(again just my pov.)

(I liked the idea, let the 'awam' of begusarai decide who z gonna be their next king! 😉)
Just imagine... PT divides everything btwn the trio and gives them 6 months validity to prove themselves(as generally given in any other show 😆)... Then??!

( again if 'khairat' wali matter does not comes out then..)Laakhan will try to expand his powers by any means as he was doing in the show b4 all this drama, to set out himself b4 he gets out on a war against PT after 6 months..

Mithi will either try to gain more control or will plot to get Laakhan & Priyom against each other so, his way can be cleared out as both get each other's ' khoon k pyase' 😛

We can say that Laakhan's sanki acts hv only worked out in Priyom's favor else no force in begusarai could hv made him so serious abt his responsibilities 😛 so.. if PT would hv divided everything and challenged them, Priyom would intentionally turn everything upside down to escape from it..! 😆 Even if PT had declared him as the successor before, he would go in all Bharat mode and prove himself the worthless and jerky person to avoid clashes and to escape from the responsibilities!!

Soo... I would say all credit goes to Laakhan for taking out the future king of begusarai in Priyom!! 😛

Edited by Krupali - 10 years ago

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Krupali

@Krupali

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#12

btw going off topic bt...

what do u think who z Bindiya's secret partner in crime??

as long as I can see.. I doubt two people the most for this.. 1st is Mithi.. his intentions are not any secret now.. and the way he keeps himself away from Priyom-Laakhan fight is clearly evident.. bt qstn is, whether he can use his own children to get the throne??

..and next and prime suspicion I hv on Bhushan.. one thing is for sure that whenever this gonna be revealed, it's gonna be a 440 volt dhamakewali news.. 😛 and history says, in such situations it usually turns out to be that person whom audience can least expect.. and nowadays, chacha ji ki harkate bhi doubtful he..! his reply when PT told him to stay away frm this clash, always gets in the way of Laakhan like all of a sudden he realizes it's the time..! "kuchh to gadbad he Daya..!! 😛 😉 😆

well, story can be different bt as of now, my prime suspicion is Bhushan Thakur... who knows all of a sudden he says, "beta, chahta to kabse mein bhi yahi tha, lekin..." 😛

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candy02

@candy02

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#13

Blaming only the ladies-of-the-house is not fair. The same ladies, aka Badi & Chhoti Granny (leaving aside Rekha Thakur for the time-being, since I've already discussed about her in my other post.), have raised PT & BT. They are definitely at fault, but not entirely. PT & BT should have been stricter in order to control their offspring. Anyways, PT did try to make Lakhan understand his mistake after that earring snatch incident and he did that by taking Lakhan alone with him. The result was Lakhan insulting him in front of the whole family by ordering Poonam to stop her higher studies !!!! Again, PT gave Lakhan a second chance after breaking the marriage by asking him to win Poonam. And Lakhan, as his galaxy-sized ego & anger dictated, took that as "bheekh" and promised to "own" Poonam by hook or crook which, as per him, would become a literal slap on his uncle's face !!! My point is, upbringing & surrounding environment do contribute shaping up the morality of a person, but to a certain extent only. It's a mixture of one's own understanding, control on his/her own emotions (anger, ego, aggression etc.) & desires, one's own ability to differentiate between right & wrong and what to adapt & what not to, sense of responsibility, sense of guilt, the way one thinks & makes decisions etc. ultimately dictate whether one becomes a criminal or a normal person.

Regarding breaking the kingdom into 3 parts, that would have definitely resulted into Mithilesh & Lakhan being on a forever collision path to prove individual supremacy and Priyom shying away from his responsibilities by hook or crook, resulting an utter chaos. Anyways, as PT & BT run a parallel administration, so it does not seem very feasible as well to take a democratic route.

Breaking off the marriage was THE only way in order to release Poonam from Lakhan's clutches and PT was absolutely correct. Lakhan would have never bothered to abide by his orders in case PT has asked him to stay away from her instead. Machita was wrong for not trusting his extremely obedient daughter regarding that love-letter fiasco & starting looking for an alliance immediately. So was PT for taking an almost impulsive decision of hurriedly binding Poonam with Priyom.

Edited by chandrima02 - 10 years ago

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Krupali

@Krupali

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Posted: 10 years ago

#14

@Chandrima02... Exactly my point! 👍🏼

Totally agree...! 👍🏼

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_BleuNoir_

@_BleuNoir_

Stunner

Posted: 10 years ago

#15

Phoolan thakur is one of my fav charcters with laakhan , mithilesh and DD.. but CVs ruin all.. thanxx to mithu and his wonderful representation which i fet for pripuran..(completely my view)

PT took right decision by breaking marriage and thinkig of pri as king but implementation is wrong:

if thy trust poonam too much thn only 1 letter break their trust and thy tried for her marriage.. whn thy all aware laakhan is obsessed with poonam as he assumes her his property, thn no need to hurry up for maariage and forcing bailbhuddi to take drastic step when thy all aware of his bailbhuddhi..

phoolan should take trustworthy steps to handle laakhan and mithilesh if he dont wants to break his family as shown initially..

all and all..wanna rant but it doesnt worth.. instesd of making it unique, thy made it ghisa pita.. and i agree no1 set example to show them how to treat them...

when laakhan wants bindiya out then phoolan suport mithilesh not laakhan jst to save family and elders speech.. he should take wise decision.. whe he biased once thn it starts biasing all time..

instead of taking marriage decision, he shoould make poonam independent strong,, and also if he really a king thn he should kill laakhan on day whn he pretends laakhan as killer of family..if he is not bisaed.. but he will try to punish him now whn it came to his own family..

phoolan diasppoint me badly...

in this all crap..thanxx to darshan dave and vishal for giving best performance..nothing else i found from this crap track..illogical and thy ruined all 4 proving it Pripuran

PS: advance sorry if someone hurt..its my rant 4 unbearble track

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mai_manmauji

@mai_manmauji

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#16

thanxx everyone meri post pr comment karne k liye😊 sabka iss matter pr apna pov. hai...its ok😊...mai bass iss post k through itna kahna chahti thi ki jo current situation hai wo itni buri nahi hoti agar pt ne apne right decision ko jyada better tarike se implement kiya hota,jiss se ki punnu k saath bhi injustice nahi hota aur laakhan apni galti bhi realize karta..😊
abhi toh jo situation agar agar laakhan marr bhi jaata hai toh kewal opper se sab theek hoga,pr ander bahut kuch toot jayega...bhushan and rekha ki soch chahe jitni alag kyo naa ho dono me ek baat common hai ki wo apne bete se bahut pyar karte hain,kya wo apne eklaute bete ki maut ka sadma chup-chaap bardaast kar lenge,ye bhale kaha jaay ki usne apni karni ka phal bhugta hai pr iss baat ko kya bhushan bhool paayega ki jiss shaadi ki wajah se laakhan maraa wo fix bhi pt ne ki thi aur thodi bhi ussi ne...decison pt ka tha pr khamiyaja unhone bhugta...agar laakhan marta bhi hai toh pt,punnu and priyom chain se nahi ji payenge,at least jab tak bhushan aur rekha zinda hai,tab tak bilkul nahi...aur agar mauj manaa k jeete hain,toh bhushan and rekha k saath-2 viewers ko bhi digest nahi hoga,aakhir unhe ab tak intna sensitive jo dikhaya jaa rahaa hai
(waise chill lakkhiya's fan i don't think cv ka kaleja itna majboot hai ki wo lakkhiya ko permanent out kar sake😃aur kar dete hain,toh fir show ka bhagwaan hi maalik rahega no doubt😆)...

rahi baat hire select karne ki jiss din pt ne decision openly declare kiya,mithi bhi lakkhiya ki raah jayega aur nahi gaya toh sab kuch gawaane ka frustration maya n bachho pr nikalega,aise pt usse punish kare toh fir wahi tamasha aur naa kare toh bhushan and rekha chup rahenge,i don't think so property ka equal division karne pr at least balance of power ki situation rahti aur koi openly tufaan nahi machata,waise bhi ek kahawat hai...akela chanaa bhaad nahi fod sakta😃
...end me bass itna hi khana hai ki kaun right hai aur kaun wrong iss pr endless bahas ho sakti hai,so no more bahas from my side,mera pov. hai ki taali kabhi ek haath se nahi bajati so ek ko fully blame nahi kar sakte...aap logo ka jo pov. hai mai uski respect karti hoon,i hope future me bhi aise discussion hote rahenge😃again thanxx a lot for commenting on my post😃

Edited by mai_manmauji - 10 years ago

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Black.Rose07

@Black.Rose07

Navigator

Posted: 10 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: Krupali
btw going off topic bt...
what do u think who z Bindiya's secret partner in crime??

as long as I can see.. I doubt two people the most for this.. 1st is Mithi.. his intentions are not any secret now.. and the way he keeps himself away from Priyom-Laakhan fight is clearly evident.. bt qstn is, whether he can use his own children to get the throne??

..and next and prime suspicion I hv on Bhushan.. one thing is for sure that whenever this gonna be revealed, it's gonna be a 440 volt dhamakewali news.. 😛and history says, in such situations it usually turns out to be that person whom audience can least expect.. and nowadays, chacha ji ki harkate bhi doubtful he..! his reply when PT told him to stay away frm this clash, always gets in the way of Laakhan like all of a sudden he realizes it's the time..! "kuchh to gadbad he Daya..!!😛😉😆

well, story can be different bt as of now, my prime suspicion is Bhushan Thakur... who knows all of a sudden he says, "beta, chahta to kabse mein bhi yahi tha, lekin..." 😛

exactly I agree with u I also think that the third person may be bhushan even mein me apne post mein yahi kaha hai ki bhushan ka goody goody nature dekh kar shak hota hai aur daily soaps ka rule hai sabse unexpected bande ko villan banane ka

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mai_manmauji

@mai_manmauji

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: crazy4ashu
ok I wnna convey a msg who made this post that shirsha ganguly admin of begusarai page on fb hv thanked u for posting this topic n discussing about decisions of pt if u r on fb do visit the page...
we all r impressed by ur post n specially pointing tht laakhan alone is at fault mamy r responsible for his behaviour

hii dear,i am tina😃 mai FB pr nahi hoon,so plzz aap meri orr se srisha ganguly ko thankss bol dijiyega😊...maine ye post iss liye banayi kyoki mai iss show k kisi character se hate nahi karti😃mughe sab pasand hain,laakhan ne limit cross ki hain(ye cv ki meharbaani jyada hai)bt show k starting me uske character me kuch achhi cheeze bhi dikhayi gayi hain,wo ek reason jiski wajah se mai uss se hate nahi kar paati, wo ye hai ki wo humesha punnu k liye loyal raha hai,usne sayad sapne me bhi kisi aur k bare me nahi socha,punnu jitni spineless,cry baby hai agar wo rangeen mijaj rahta ya usse sexually bhi abuse karta toh wo kuch bolne k bajay ganga-jamuna bahati😡...but usne kabhi apni limit cross nahi ki,second thing apni regressive soch n possessive nature k baad bhi usne kabhi punnu nd pri ki dosti pr ungli nahi uthayi,even punnu ko punish bhi kiya toh yahi kaha kaha ki she is careless(mai uske punishment ko justify nahi kar rahi hoon)...aur baaki toh usne apni life me ab tak submissive women ko hi dekha hai jo kewal mardo k order follow karti hai toh uss se umeed karna ki wo punnu ki respect karega,bekaar hai...mai isliye hi punnu n lakkhiya ki marriage nahi chahti,wo women ki respect kare iske liye jaroori hai ki uska palla pahle kisi strong,confident n super smart girl se pade,jo usse uski regressive soch badlne pr majboor kar de😃...bt i am sure cv aisa kuch nahi dikhayenge😡

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mai_manmauji

@mai_manmauji

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#19

@beatsdongandy...dear aap ne toh sensible viewers k dil ka dard hi bayan kar diya😆pr kya kare her jagah yahi haal hai,begusarai ka toh backdrop aisa hai ki aap ek baar abusive hero,cry baby heroine and stupid side characters digest kar sakte hain...bt jab urban setting wale shows jahaan hero -heroine highly educated,economically independent hote hain wahaan ye sab show kiya jaata hai toh apna sir fodne ka mann karta hai,don't know ki inn show makers ko logic and sensibility se kaun si allergy hai😡

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Namreen sheikh

@Vishdrmzzz

Dazzler

Posted: 10 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: mai_manmauji

<font size="3">hii dear,i am tina😃 mai FB pr nahi hoon,so plzz aap meri orr se srisha ganguly ko thankss bol dijiyega😊...maine ye post iss liye banayi kyoki mai iss show k kisi character se hate nahi karti😃mughe sab pasand hain,laakhan ne limit cross ki hain(ye cv ki meharbaani jyada hai)bt show k starting me uske character me kuch achhi cheeze bhi dikhayi gayi hain,wo ek reason jiski wajah se mai uss se hate nahi kar paati, wo ye hai ki wo humesha punnu k liye loyal raha hai,usne sayad sapne me bhi kisi aur k bare me nahi socha,punnu jitni spineless,cry baby hai agar wo rangeen mijaj rahta ya usse sexually bhi abuse karta toh wo kuch bolne k bajay ganga-jamuna bahati😡...but usne kabhi apni limit cross nahi ki,second thing apni regressive soch n possessive nature k baad bhi usne kabhi punnu nd pri ki dosti pr ungli nahi uthayi,even punnu ko punish bhi kiya toh yahi kaha kaha ki she is careless(mai uske punishment ko justify nahi kar rahi hoon)...aur baaki toh usne apni life me ab tak submissive women ko hi dekha hai jo kewal mardo k order follow karti hai toh uss se umeed karna ki wo punnu ki respect karega,bekaar hai...mai isliye hi punnu n lakkhiya ki marriage nahi chahti,wo women ki respect kare iske liye jaroori hai ki uska palla pahle kisi strong,confident n super smart girl se pade,jo usse uski regressive soch badlne pr majboor kar de😃...bt i am sure cv aisa kuch nahi dikhayenge😡 </font>

I will surely do that n thnx for the post
m totally nt happy with the current track I wanted lakhan n priyom to fight for the throne n nt for poonam I so badly wish tht all the 3 bro compete with eachother in which pri n lakky come out to b worthy but no cvs in the starting only showed tht pri is the mst sensible n will b the future king n same happn with poonam first epi was enough for the viewu to predict tht poo will falll for pri...

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