morally right but practical implementation is wrong

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Posted: 10 years ago
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guyss i am talking about 2 decision of phulan thakur...
1-lakkhiya ko punnu k saath kiye uske bad behaviour k liye openly punish karna aur shaadi break karna..
2-priyom ko raja banane ka decision lena...

well mera manna hai ki agar koi decision morally right hai but practically usse implement karne se bure result saamne aa sakte hain toh uss decision ko bahut soch samgh k lena aur implement karna chahiye😊...pt k ye dono decision bhi aise hi hain jo morally ekdum right hain,bt unhe implement karne k galat tarike k karan aaj situation itni bigad gayi hai...😔


1st decision-...her koi aaj lakkhiya ko blame kar raha hai( don't get me wrong i am not trying to justify his all action)pr kya saari galti uski hi hai???wo kya suddenly insane,violent and aggressive ban gaya hai??
i don't think so,wo hamesha se aisa hi tha,isliye hi usse khatarnaak,bailbuddhi,sher n tedha lakkhan jaisi title di gayi thi...pr kya punnu k incident se pahle kabhi bhi uske iss behaviour pr question uthaya gaya tha??...i think kabhi nahi aur wo kewal isliye ki uske issi nature ne thakur family ki supremacy begusarai me banaye rakhne me bahut help ki aur itni ki thi ki mithi jaisa egostic insaan apne ego n pt k decision k against jaake usse apne paale me rakhna chahta tha...jab usse kabhi punish nahi kiya gaya iss tarah k behaviour k liye toh punnu k case me sabke samne punish karna aur marriage break karna galat tha..

Kya poori thakur family me wo akela tha jisne iss tarah ka abusive behaviour kiya ho??...no...ghar k sare married male yahi karte rahe hain,mithi,manchita n bhushan...jab bado ne yahi example set kiya ho toh chhoto se idealism ki umeed karna galat hai...

Begusarai jaisi jagah jahaan pr aan&shaan ki keemat jaan se jyada ho pt ne ye kaise soch liya ki lakkhiya jaisa tedha insaan chup-chaap apni insult sah k khud ko achha bachha prove karne me lag jayega??...so in my pov.uske abusive behaviour k karan uski baki achhaiyo ko bhool kar usse jiss tarah sabak shikhane ki kosis ki gayi wo tarika sahi nahi tha
i think pt ko lakkhiya ki sabke samne insult karne k bajay bass usse punnu se door kar dena chahiye tha aur shaadi ka decision punnu k education complete karne aur self dependent banne tak pending kar dena chahiye tha ya koi aur tarika jiss se saap bhi marr jaata aur laathi bhi nahi tootati😊

2nd decision.... again wo right hai ki priyom sabse best king sabit hoga...lakkhiya aur mithi, jaise log mauka milne pr king nhi dictator honge bt usne fir wahi galti ki hai jo pahle matter me ki thi...iss baar bhi motive nahi pr tarika galat hai....
ye sach hai priyom sensitive n sensible hai pr kya kewal iss reason se usse plate me saja kar throne de dena chahiye,itne saalo tak jiss empire ko pt ne khada kiya, usse mithi & lakkhiya ne smbhala aur aage badhaya ,unhe kewal unke egoistic behaviour k karan ekdum se disqualify kar dena kya sahi hai,wo bhi tab jab aaj tak pt ne unke iss behaviour pr kabhi ungli nahi uthayi??
well mughe lagta hai kisi ek ko sab kuch de dene se better hota pt apne empire ka equal devision kar teeno ko de deta aur ye unn pr chhor deta ki wo isse kaise aage badhate hain...i think jiss me her quality hoti ,last me jeet ussi ki hoti😊
inn doh decision ki wajah se philhaal toh yahi dikh raha hai ki pt ki family k doh important pillar toot k hamesha k liye alag ho gaye hain aur ek pillar pr kuch jyada hi bhaar lad gya hai ab wo isse akele kitna sambhal payega ye toh future hi decide karega...kash ki pt ne thodi samghdaari dikhayi hoti toh aaj ye teeno item apne dhandhe me pareshaan hote naa ki punnu n biddo jisi items me aur hum iss shaadi drame k bajay kuch dhoom-dhadam action per sir khapa rahe hote😆

NOTE- big wala sorry itni log post k liye😊

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Posted: 10 years ago
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sahi analysis hai @manmauji decision toh acha that par implementation galat ho gaya aur uski wajas se hi ye Sara rayta fail gaya
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Tina an apt post.

Though Phulan Thakur knows his sons in-and-out, he has reprimanded neither Mithilesh for straying outside of his marriage on a regular basis nor Priyom for his colorful life, ever. He had remained silent when Mithilesh adamantly kept Bindiya in Begusarai during the fiasco with Lakhan, knowing very well that it would be a direct injustice to Maya; later providing some absolute crap reasoning (something in the line of "elders should not be proven wrong in front of the younger ones"). The same person announces severe punishment when Lakhan manhandles Poonam (I am definitely not implying that he did something wrong by breaking the marriage.). Simply double standard !!!

Breaking the marriage with Lakhan was absolutely correct from all angles. But afterwards, he could have "ordered" Manchita to let Poonam concentrate on her studies instead of hurrying to marry her off to any "abcd" and once she becomes older, wiser & capable enough then think about her marriage with a worthy guy; knowing very well that Manchita would never say a "NO" to him. This would have diverted Lakhan's attention as well. Instead he chose to bind Poonam with Priyom in a jiffy, knowing very well how adverse Priyom is to the concept of marriage. And this time as well he did not bother to ask the actual person concerned, i.e. Poonam, before taking a decision !!!

Regarding his second decision, Priyom is indeed the worthiest among the three sample pieces; but he is an uncut diamond. He needs ample cuttings in order to become THE one. To be frank, PT has not yet declared his decision publicly. But due to his & his mother's ignorance regarding what can be discussed in an open porch, it became a bit public.

P.S. I've different opinion regarding Bhushan Thakur. His character becomes that of a drenched kitten whenever he faces his better-half with one or two rare exceptions. This has unfailingly worked in Lakhan's favor as Rekha always stops BT from reprimanding their son; as a result Lakhan gets out unscathed and has never learnt from his mistakes.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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first of all... hi to all 😊 I'm new to this forum... 😛

amm..! sorry if I'm interfering bt couldn't stop myself after seeing this discussion and giving my two cents..!

..and this is jst my pow.. and once again I'm apologizing u guys if I turn out to be an intruder.



Originally posted by: mai_manmauji

guyss i am talking about 2 decision of phulan thakur...
1-lakkhiya ko punnu k saath kiye uske bad behaviour k liye openly punish karna aur shaadi break karna..
2-priyom ko raja banane ka decision lena...

well mera manna hai ki agar koi decision morally right hai but practically usse implement karne se bure result saamne aa sakte hain toh uss decision ko bahut soch samgh k lena aur implement karna chahiye😊...pt k ye dono decision bhi aise hi hain jo morally ekdum right hain,bt unhe implement karne k galat tarike k karan aaj situation itni bigad gayi hai...😔


1st decision-...her koi aaj lakkhiya ko blame kar raha hai( don't get me wrong i am not trying to justify his all action)pr kya saari galti uski hi hai???wo kya suddenly insane,violent and aggressive ban gaya hai??
i don't think so,wo hamesha se aisa hi tha,isliye hi usse khatarnaak,bailbuddhi,sher n tedha lakkhan jaisi title di gayi thi...pr kya punnu k incident se pahle kabhi bhi uske iss behaviour pr question uthaya gaya tha??...i think kabhi nahi


well, I agree in this point!.. Laakhan has not changed all of a sudden, he is like that frm the beginning itself.. and I blame Thakur family for this, specially Bhusan! Takurs ne jo kaam aaj kiya he wo pahele kar dete to ye naubat hi na aati..

aur wo kewal isliye ki uske issi nature ne thakur family ki supremacy begusarai me banaye rakhne me bahut help ki aur itni ki thi ki mithi jaisa egostic insaan apne ego n pt k decision k against jaake usse apne paale me rakhna chahta tha...jab usse kabhi punish nahi kiya gaya iss tarah k behaviour k liye toh punnu k case me sabke samne punish karna aur marriage break karna galat tha..

amm..! my take differ here, bt will choose not to go further in it..

Kya poori thakur family me wo akela tha jisne iss tarah ka abusive behaviour kiya ho??...no...ghar k sare married male yahi karte rahe hain,mithi,manchita n bhushan...jab bado ne yahi example set kiya ho toh chhoto se idealism ki umeed karna galat hai...

well, any of them didn't cross the limit that Laakhan did.. and Bhusan is totally exception in this.. 😆 his switch keeps turning on off before Rekha.. abuse to dur zara uss tedhi cheez ko sidha karne ki try bhi ki hoti to shayad aaj haal kuchh aur hota! 😛

Begusarai jaisi jagah jahaan pr aan&shaan ki keemat jaan se jyada ho pt ne ye kaise soch liya ki lakkhiya jaisa tedha insaan chup-chaap apni insult sah k khud ko achha bachha prove karne me lag jayega??...so in my pov.uske abusive behaviour k karan uski baki achhaiyo ko bhool kar usse jiss tarah sabak shikhane ki kosis ki gayi wo tarika sahi nahi tha
i think pt ko lakkhiya ki sabke samne insult karne k bajay bass usse punnu se door kar dena chahiye tha aur shaadi ka decision punnu k education complete karne aur self dependent banne tak pending kar dena chahiye tha ya koi aur tarika jiss se saap bhi marr jaata aur laathi bhi nahi tootati😊

in my pow.. Marriage cancel karna bilkul sahi tha bt ya! I do agree ki marriage is not the ultimate solution.. Poonam better concentrate to her studies.. 😊

2nd decision.... again wo right hai ki priyom sabse best king sabit hoga...lakkhiya aur mithi, jaise log mauka milne pr king nhi dictator honge bt usne fir wahi galti ki hai jo pahle matter me ki thi...iss baar bhi motive nahi pr tarika galat hai....
ye sach hai priyom sensitive n sensible hai pr kya kewal iss reason se usse plate me saja kar throne de dena chahiye,itne saalo tak jiss empire ko pt ne khada kiya, usse mithi & lakkhiya ne smbhala aur aage badhaya ,unhe kewal unke egoistic behaviour k karan ekdum se disqualify kar dena kya sahi hai,wo bhi tab jab aaj tak pt ne unke iss behaviour pr kabhi ungli nahi uthayi??

sorry bt I object wid 'plate me saja kar dena' thing... PT has not yet declared Priyom his successor officially.. and the reason for that is only that he wants to test him and make him better than what he is.. PT and badi amma both r trying to do that only since they hv decided who z gonna be the next king bcoz they know that Priyom still has to learn..

well mughe lagta hai kisi ek ko sab kuch de dene se better hota pt apne empire ka equal devision kar teeno ko de deta aur ye unn pr chhor deta ki wo isse kaise aage badhate hain...i think jiss me her quality hoti ,last me jeet ussi ki hoti😊
inn doh decision ki wajah se philhaal toh yahi dikh raha hai ki pt ki family k doh important pillar toot k hamesha k liye alag ho gaye hain aur ek pillar pr kuch jyada hi bhaar lad gya hai ab wo isse akele kitna sambhal payega ye toh future hi decide karega...kash ki pt ne thodi samghdaari dikhayi hoti toh aaj ye teeno item apne dhandhe me pareshaan hote naa ki punnu n biddo jisi items me aur hum iss shaadi drame k bajay kuch dhoom-dhadam action per sir khapa rahe hote😆

coz he z Phoolan Thakur! he cannot do such a silly mistake of dividing his kingdom into three divisions! it's not a moral tale for kids, in which one emerges out to be the true successor and the rest accept him with all respect! any guaranty that after doing this rest two brother gonna accept the third as real king?(it's possible in lord Rama's case only! 😛)

they will revolt THEN.. plus, PT is able to stop them now, bt wouldn't if he would divide everything.. coz they will hv powers then ..and so the outcome would be even worse than what it can be now..

NOTE- big wala sorry itni log post k liye😊



again I'm sorry if I sounded rude.. it's jst my pow.. I'm not intended to hurt anyone.. 😊
Edited by Krupali - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: chandrima02

Tina an apt post.
thanxx dear😊
Though Phulan Thakur knows his sons in-and-out, he has reprimanded neither Mithilesh for straying outside of his marriage on a regular basis nor Priyom for his colorful life, ever. He had remained silent when Mithilesh adamantly kept Bindiya in Begusarai during the fiasco with Lakhan, knowing very well that it would be a direct injustice to Maya; later providing some absolute crap reasoning (something in the line of "elders should not be proven wrong in front of the younger ones"). The same person announces severe punishment when Lakhan manhandles Poonam (I am definitely not implying that he did something wrong by breaking the marriage.). Simply double standard !!!
mera lakkhiya ko lekar simple view hai ki wo jo hai uska karan uski upbringing hai,agar pt ne mithi & priyom ko rok kar example set kiya hota toh sayad wo punnu k saath itna abusive behaviour nahi karta...rahi baat marriage break karne ki toh 10 saal tak usne punnu ko apni private property ki tarah treat kiya aur baaki sab bhi usse lakkhiya ki unofficial bibi ki tarah hi treat karte rahe toh fir ek jhatke me marriage toodne se lakkhan ka attitude nahi change ho jaata punnu ko lekar,iss bare me pt ko sochna chahiye tha...i think marriage break karne k bajay punnu ko lakkhiya se door karna,uske liye best punishment hoti😊
Breaking the marriage with Lakhan was absolutely correct from all angles. But afterwards, he could have "ordered" Manchita to let Poonam concentrate on her studies instead of hurrying to marry her off to any "abcd" and once she becomes older, wiser & capable enough then think about her marriage with a worthy guy; knowing very well that Manchita would never say a "NO" to him. This would have diverted Lakhan's attention as well. Instead he chose to bind Poonam with Priyom in a jiffy, knowing very well how adverse Priyom is to the concept of marriage. And this time as well he did not bother to ask the actual person concerned, i.e. Poonam, before taking a decision !!!
totally agree wid u,,ye best solution hota iss problem ka😃

Regarding his second decision, Priyom is indeed the worthiest among the three sample pieces; but he is an uncut diamond. He needs ample cuttings in order to become THE one. To be frank, PT has not yet declared his decision publicly. But due to his & his mother's ignorance regarding what can be discussed in an open porch, it became a bit public.

well openly declare nahi kiya hai but mann pura bana chuke hain aur mithi achhi tarah jaanta hai ki ek baar mann banane k baad chahe kuch bhi ho jaay,pt apne decision ko change nahi karega,isliye hi wo khul k pt k against bol raha hai

P.S. I've different opinion regarding Bhushan Thakur. His character becomes that of a drenched kitten whenever he faces his better-half with the exception of one or two rare occasions. This has unfailingly worked in Lakhan's favor as Rekha always stops BT from reprimanding their son; as a result Lakhan gets out unscathed and has never learnt from his mistakes.
well agree wid u bhushan ne lakkhan ko poori tarah rekha k palle chhor badi mistake ki hai...maine toh pahle hi kaha hai pt k teeno defective itetms ka reson basically ghar ki aurate hain,jinhone unhe women ki respect karna seekhaya hi nahi,chahe badi amma ho ya rekha apne ladlo ki kartooto k bare me jaante hue bhi unhe aankh moond k support ab tak kewal kiya hai😡

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Krupali

first of all... hi to all 😊 I'm new to this forum... 😛
very warm welcome dear😃

amm..! sorry if I'm interfering bt couldn't stop myself after seeing this discussion and giving my two cents..!
no need to say sorry,ye open forum hai aur yahaan sabko full right hai show k bare me apna view dene ka
..and this is jst my pow.. and once again I'm apologizing u guys if I turn out to be an intruder.
again no need to say sorry,i am happy ki meri post ne aapko bolne k liye majboor kiya,apna view dena koi galat baat nahi hai,i just hope ki aap future me bhi active rahen😊




again I'm sorry if I sounded rude.. it's jst my pow.. I'm not intended to hurt anyone.. 😊
plzz yaar next time itna sorry mat bolna,apni dil ki kahne me kaun sa sorry😆

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Posted: 10 years ago
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simple thing dont expect logic and realistic thing in an indian serial.in bengali tv is called "boka baksho" means fool box.indian serial is just justifying this 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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after watching begusarai and another show I hv understood ye promo me ya initially jitna bhi chilla le its gonna b different show and isme hum women empowerment dikhayenge ya aspiration ki baat karenge ultimately it ll come down to romeo juliet love or saas bahu fight.isse accha wohi hai jo phle se hi bolte hai its a love story or saas-bahu saga.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree wid u tht its nt totally laakhan mistake insulting him infrnt of tbe whole family was nt right pt could hv scold him make him apologize , n after tht incident every in the haveli seems like forgotten him completely the whole thakur family is responsible for his behaviour
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Posted: 10 years ago
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ok I wnna convey a msg who made this post that shirsha ganguly admin of begusarai page on fb hv thanked u for posting this topic n discussing about decisions of pt if u r on fb do visit the page...
we all r impressed by ur post n specially pointing tht laakhan alone is at fault mamy r responsible for his behaviour

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