HIten is the only one who spoke the truth about DM - Page 2

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Posted: 16 years ago
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LOL Mallika you are too funny!! 😆

Only one of them has to be adopted and problem solved.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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This thread actually proves a point which many of us have been talking about for weeks and months. DM is not holy nor is Santo mahaan. Nor is Hiten perfect. Nor is Khemi above faults. Bandini is about how each and every character has to eventually comes to terms with his/her strengths and weaknesses.

Is God our only maalik? Am sure believers will agree. But don't know if there are non-believers here, so I would not wish to go into discussions about is God maalik or not. Too complicated.

DM's treatment of Santo initially, his reasons for marrying her, and his mentioning of Santo's kundali ystrday to Hiten are all wrong. But the writers are trying to establish the foundation for DM's character, before they start showing him falling completely in love with Santo.

It's a bit hasty to say characters like DM and Santo should be banished to the dark ages. Bandini has not ended yet. It has just begun (6 months seems early in Hindi TV serial life span). Let us wait and see how the characters shape up. If history is any proof, some values which are considered ancient seem to stand the test of time,while some that are considered modern have their own side-effects. Nothing is black and white. Let us not bracket one couple as 'backward' and other as 'forward'. Later, if the story-line shows something else, then we will be left with a bad taste in our mouth.

It is not just Hiten who has accused DM of not being a good dad. Maulik did so too. Except, Maulik said DM favoured Hiten over him. At the end of the day, it is all about how each one sees the relationship na? Hiten says his dad thinks only like a maalik, Maulik thinks dad favours only Hiten, DM thinks he is doing his best for his kids but is not the type to openly show affection, so why take sides? DM admitted to Kaddu how he had taken refuge at work when Subadra passed away. Poor man was probably madly in love with her! Which is probably why he is not able to accept Santo.

Imagining love scenes between DM and Santo? Well...I don't know whether that is what love is all about. I would be happy not to see very graphic scenes if you know what I mean. There are different kinds of love. Thankfully Bandini has enough couples to satisfy us all. so no complaints there.

18 yr old marrying a 50 yr old 'twisted'? Massi-bhaanja relationship not 'twisted'? We can keep on arguing about this till the cows come home! let us just say some people prefer one 'twisted' relationship over the other. which is fine. each one to his own. But in order to justify one preference, let us not demonise the other. Let us accord equal respect for all characters.

Why no one is referring to the 'maasi-bhaanja'relationship? Because they know the twist and we don't 😆

May be BT writers are too embarrased to say it loud themselves! 😆


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Posted: 16 years ago
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Rasika, Amen to that. Bow to you.

So well said, nothing to add!

As you said, let's just wait and watch. Years and years to go...this is just the foundation.

Creatives have the bigger picture. We are only shown a piece of the pie at a time...too early to make any judgments.

LOL...even with the crumbs they feed us on a daily basis we have so much in the way of discussions, it's a good thing they are taking it slow and keeping it simple.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Love your analysis, Rasika👏 You took the words right out of my mouth, hehehe,not really😆 But I was thinking all the things you said😊
We should never assume any character is perfect. They all have faults. It's how they choose to solve their problems, that makes the difference.
It should be like that in this forum too. We should be tolerant of everyone's thoughts, whether it be about Hiten-Khemi, Santu-DM, or Motiben-Pinakin combo. Hehehe, fooled you with the last pairing, right😉 Just seeing if you all are paying attention😃
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hehe Mallika,Motiben-Pinakin? 😆 Am paying attention and am sure so is Pinu Kaka😆

But yes, let us respect all these pairs, all the actors, and enjoy the show.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: mombasa00

LOL Mallika you are too funny!! 😆

Only one of them has to be adopted and problem solved.



I have been looking for clues to solve this problem. I finally managed to watch a few episodes back to back and I think I found one

When Motiben was looking at her photo album of yesteryears, of her dancing on stage, the thing written on the back curtain of the stage in Gujju said some Dance Mahotsav - 1984. This is 2009 so it was 25 years ago.

Hiten is the 23-24 and therefore the only child from the 5 Mahyavanshi children and 3 Wagela girls to fit the time line of either Moti or anyone having that child.

The secret/raaz is definitely something to do with Hiten.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

👏Well said. 👏Couldn't have said it better!

Yes, it is a gross unfairness that H-K relationship has to suffer because of DM-Santo relationship. It is amazing how people accuse Hiten and Khemi of committing a crime for falling in love and equate it with relationshipships which are not really relatable. The hard fact is that DM married Santo not because he wanted to give a life to a young girl who was left in the alter on tha day of her wedding but because he not want to suffer losses in business. As you pointed out he treated Santo abominably. I think his treatment was worse than Motiben's because she did not make any bones about what she thought and felt for Santo whereas the guy made a show of being a good husband when he was with his friends and business associates but went back to be a 'Maalik' when they weren't around. Oh yes, he is slowly changing and that required tremedous sacrifices from Santo. He has not yet reached the stage where he has given her the full right of his wife. So when the man who got into this relationship of his own accord has not yet fully recognised it, why would his son recognise it, treat a woman who is five years younger to him as his mother, and by virtue of that treat her sister as saali and hence stay away from her? If he does not, what is the crime he is doing?
Yesterday we saw what is DM's and Santo's real objection of H-K union. It is not that Khemi is Hiten's maasi but that Khemi is maanglik. DM says that he married Santo because of her Kundali ( which was supposed to be strong). How selfish and trivial can the Maalik of Dharampur be, marrying a girl for the sake of his business and his future propsperity by virtue of her kundali. If he had married Santo to save that girl from disgrace or give her a life, I would have appreciated his deed. But his reason seems to be utterly selfish. Yet, Hiten marrying for love is termed as selfish by many. Hiten was willing to give up his love because he thought she was happy to marry Shambu. But after he came to know that she was terribly unhappy about the marriage, he was determined to marry her and is perpared to face any hurdles. Now how can that be selfish?
For those who felt he is doing this only to irk DM, let me remind you that Hiten has a lot of respect and regard for DM just as DM has a lot of affection and pride for Hiten. The problem is, both do not reveal it to each other. Hiten has stepped up and defended his dad's honour on several occassions. Yes, he is critical and cynical of him in his presence because he has witnessed DM's brash brand of justice disposal like in the cow slaughter case. Also after Shubi's death DM seemed to have wrapped himself in his work rather than be a support to his children who were sorely missing their mother. DM is realising that of late and trying to make amends but Hiten has not been around to see that change because he was in the village serving his brother's sentence. So when he stubbornly says he will marry Khemi, it is not because he feels thrilled to go against his fatehr but because his father was preventing him from achieving his happiness. When DM can marry a girl young enough to be his daughter for his selfish gains why not Hiten?
Ronit is a fantastic actor which is why many of us like to see him on screen with anybody, even a girl as young as Santo. An incongruous story involving 18-50 is palatable because many of us think of this as fiction. By the same stretch of imagination why not also accept H-K, forgetting that there is a quirky relationship, because from what I have seen of the show so far, not once has the 'maasi-bhanja' angle been brought in. After all, this is a work of fiction and not real life, where, as the poster said, many of us cannot digest a relationship like that of DM-Santo.

Thankyou so much for expressing exactly wat i've been wanting to see people understand for so long during this Khemi-Hiten-Massi-Bhanja debate which iv recently realized isn't even an issue in the serial itself.
I really adore DM's rule of justice towards everyone but even he has faults, one of which would definitely be marrying Santo. I started watching the drama during my last trip to India and i didnt know why he'd married her but i assumed it was becuase of her being left at the mandap and to save the honour of the village etc, but after he revealed why he married her in the latest row with Hiten, i was shocked, mostly because i thought he'd be ashamed to admit it in front of his son who is fighting for his love but he didn't seem regretful about the reasons for marrying her at all.
And i agree with your comment about Hiten's sometimes judgemental thoughts towards his father because like you said, he hasn't seen the changes that have been happening in DM because he has been in the village and hasn't had much insight into what's been going on at home.
I just feel that it is sad that Khemi and Hiten are being labelled as selfish just because they cannot forget their love for each other and are trying to change some of the social negatives in their village (hasn't India tried so hard to break these barriers of the caste system for which it is unfortunately reknown for over the world now?) But thankyou once again Opti for putting my thoughts into your words logically and sensitively.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvrasika



Imagining love scenes between DM and Santo? Well...I don't know whether that is what love is all about. I would be happy not to see very graphic scenes if you know what I mean. There are different kinds of love. Thankfully Bandini has enough couples to satisfy us all. so no complaints there.

18 yr old marrying a 50 yr old 'twisted'? Massi-bhaanja relationship not 'twisted'? We can keep on arguing about this till the cows come home! let us just say some people prefer one 'twisted' relationship over the other. which is fine. each one to his own. But in order to justify one preference, let us not demonise the other. Let us accord equal respect for all characters.

Why no one is referring to the 'maasi-bhaanja'relationship? Because they know the twist and we don't 😆

May be BT writers are too embarrased to say it loud themselves! 😆




I agree here!!!! the 18 yr old married !!!!!!!!! legally the man..and this is twisted😆😆man!!!!!! I am laughing the most here...a legal marriage is a twisted one😆😆😆gosh!!!!!!! what thinking!! and yeah!!!! people will not refer to maasi and step son..😆as u say ..perhaps we few do not know what it is all abt!!!!!😆illogical thought life🤢🤢
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Posted: 16 years ago
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welcome Kuku raja😆 to the forum...I gather this is u r first post!!!!!
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Now i am sure that Hiten is not DM's son

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