HIten is the only one who spoke the truth about DM

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Hello all.

First I just want to say Hi, I've been watching the show for a while ( watched the older episodes online) and now I depend heavily on IF to provide updates. (Thanks Guys!).

I liked this show in the beginning because it was different - a twisted marriage between a 50 year old man and an 18 year old teenager who was 'forced' into marriage simply because the man was too egoistic and wanted his factory workers to go back to work !.

I am surprised by many comments by people (certainly everyone has certainly a right to their opinion and so do I) that they do not find the relationship (if one can even use that term) between DM and Santo offensive but that between Hiten and Khemi - one of consenting unrelated well matched adults objectionable simply because Santo has a 'Ma 'complex' in her head. Just because Santo and DM got 'ahem' –married (if you can use that term) does not make Hiten and Khemi Maasi-Bhanja.

Hiten is being made out to be some villan but the real villan who did the real shameful act was DM. the so called 'Dharm-raj" ( i.e Dharm-ki' raksha karney wala) . Marrying a child who was way younger than half your children is such a vulgar act that after that he should have given resignation as dharmapur ka malik and handed that job over to his son. Only Hiten had the guts to point that out to DM. Not only that after that he treated his 'wife' so badly.Remember Hiten pointing out and saying ' Will you also do the same to this child what you did to my mother ?" ( maybe there is a mystery how Subhadra died ?)

The unfortunate thing about self-righteous Santo is that she truly believes in zaat-paat. She believes in her heart that she is inferior and therefore deserves less. On the other hand Khemi knows she probably will get less than she deservers, but aspires for more more - Khemi and Hiten are the bright future of India. Regressive people like DM and Santo with their nauseating twisted views of 'dharma' are better in the dark ages of India. Like Hiten said I will not be an Eklavya - because as interesting as that story was - it was an tale of grave injustice.

And before people start looking to make sweet love stories of DM and Santo please look around and see the closest 50 year old man and see what he looks like. He will not be handsome like Ronit Roy not he will be the kind of guy that any 18 year old even as silly as Santo would want to have any romantic entanglements with far from any man-women adult relationship with. Keep that in mind becasue I feel like throwing up when they talk of their slow and steady love being the 'true' love.

It is interesting that DM didn't give a damn to anyone's feelings, his family etc but he did the marriage solely for his only personal business gain. But Hiten wants to do the same because he is in love – not harming anyone, yet fake relationships of fake marriages are an issue ?

The only person who has spoken the truth about the true character of DM has been Hiten from the very beginning. Hopefully Hiten will be the only one who will expose him further and remove the Jaat-paat nonesense from Dharampur and take Dharampur on the path of progress and away from the concept of a 'Maalik'. Even HUman Being has only one Maalik and that Maalik is God.

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Posted: 16 years ago
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agree, i mean i would be pissed if father who is almost 50 marries a women who is younger myself.

people say santu is right but in reality she is dumb girl

dm-santo as a jodi is gross, and i dont see them havin intimate scenes

they are no bajaj-prena or jai-bani, atleast they played 40 year olds who were rich and handsome characters.

dm in reality would not be attractive now, in terms of the character,rr is a good lookin guy but in reality dm as a character is not handsome since its set in rural india.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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👏Well said. 👏Couldn't have said it better!
Yes, it is a gross unfairness that H-K relationship has to suffer because of DM-Santo relationship. It is amazing how people accuse Hiten and Khemi of committing a crime for falling in love and equate it with relationshipships which are not really relatable. The hard fact is that DM married Santo not because he wanted to give a life to a young girl who was left in the alter on tha day of her wedding but because he not want to suffer losses in business. As you pointed out he treated Santo abominably. I think his treatment was worse than Motiben's because she did not make any bones about what she thought and felt for Santo whereas the guy made a show of being a good husband when he was with his friends and business associates but went back to be a 'Maalik' when they weren't around. Oh yes, he is slowly changing and that required tremedous sacrifices from Santo. He has not yet reached the stage where he has given her the full right of his wife. So when the man who got into this relationship of his own accord has not yet fully recognised it, why would his son recognise it, treat a woman who is five years younger to him as his mother, and by virtue of that treat her sister as saali and hence stay away from her? If he does not, what is the crime he is doing?
Yesterday we saw what is DM's and Santo's real objection of H-K union. It is not that Khemi is Hiten's maasi but that Khemi is maanglik. DM says that he married Santo because of her Kundali ( which was supposed to be strong). How selfish and trivial can the Maalik of Dharampur be, marrying a girl for the sake of his business and his future propsperity by virtue of her kundali. If he had married Santo to save that girl from disgrace or give her a life, I would have appreciated his deed. But his reason seems to be utterly selfish. Yet, Hiten marrying for love is termed as selfish by many. Hiten was willing to give up his love because he thought she was happy to marry Shambu. But after he came to know that she was terribly unhappy about the marriage, he was determined to marry her and is perpared to face any hurdles. Now how can that be selfish?
For those who felt he is doing this only to irk DM, let me remind you that Hiten has a lot of respect and regard for DM just as DM has a lot of affection and pride for Hiten. The problem is, both do not reveal it to each other. Hiten has stepped up and defended his dad's honour on several occassions. Yes, he is critical and cynical of him in his presence because he has witnessed DM's brash brand of justice disposal like in the cow slaughter case. Also after Shubi's death DM seemed to have wrapped himself in his work rather than be a support to his children who were sorely missing their mother. DM is realising that of late and trying to make amends but Hiten has not been around to see that change because he was in the village serving his brother's sentence. So when he stubbornly says he will marry Khemi, it is not because he feels thrilled to go against his fatehr but because his father was preventing him from achieving his happiness. When DM can marry a girl young enough to be his daughter for his selfish gains why not Hiten?
Ronit is a fantastic actor which is why many of us like to see him on screen with anybody, even a girl as young as Santo. An incongruous story involving 18-50 is palatable because many of us think of this as fiction. By the same stretch of imagination why not also accept H-K, forgetting that there is a quirky relationship, because from what I have seen of the show so far, not once has the 'maasi-bhanja' angle been brought in. After all, this is a work of fiction and not real life, where, as the poster said, many of us cannot digest a relationship like that of DM-Santo.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: BIGHEADEDM

agree, i mean i would be pissed if father who is almost 50 marries a women who is younger myself.

people say santu is right but in reality she is dumb girl

dm-santo as a jodi is gross, and i dont see them havin intimate scenes

they are no bajaj-prena or jai-bani, atleast they played 40 year olds who were rich and handsome characters.

dm in reality would not be attractive now, in terms of the character,rr is a good lookin guy but in reality dm as a character is not handsome since its set in rural india.

I dont agree with this logic. Rural india is no way inferior to urban India. Why this dichotomy? More tha 60 per cent of India's population lives in rural India. If the farmer does not set foot on his field, we will not be eating the food we have on our table.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti

I dont agree with this logic. Rural india is no way inferior to urban India. Why this dichotomy? More tha 60 per cent of India's population lives in rural India. If the farmer does not set foot on his field, we will not be eating the food we have on our table.



ok i do agree with u on that, but i was talkin about something else, i was talkin about the farmers, i was talkin about dm as a character
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Posted: 16 years ago
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So what is unattrative about a rural man vis a vis an urban man? I think if age disparity cannot be tolerated, it should be universal irrespective of whether the man is urban or rural. Why make an exception for Bajaj and Jai and not for DM? To me all are in the same boat. Maybe Bajaj is sightly better off because atleast he married for love and not out of business compulsion like DM or is the victim of deceit like Jai. All one can say is that this age gap beats the other two.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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It makes no sense rural or urban ,if a man has personality and looks good thats an attractive man. DM is a very attractive character. He is powerful,good looking and respected by all. I love DM's character.
The way story is going and all other side lines are getting involved,it is also difficult for me to see Santo and DM getting intimate. I was not against it because of age gap ,but lately it seems almost gross. My personal test would be if i can picture it in my head ,but it draws blanks now. I think prerna and Bajaj were more close in age, Jai was not as uptight and traditional as DM so it almost seemed normal to see him with Bani. Another biggie with Jai was that he was not previously married nor had kids that made a world of diffence in the Jai/Bani relationship. I think now with Dm is that his kids are married and gives off an impression of retired dad. I can not picture guy who hasolder married children in bad with 17yrs old girl(wife). It almost seems like a shameful thing to do.
I agree that Hiten /Khemi should not suffer because of DM/Santo. By no means Khemi is a masi to hiten. Hiten is not Santo's child and then the entire relationship chart is so off the hook in this by having Santo so young and the relation between DM and Santo is also not normal. The marrige also was not a normal circumstances. If any objection to the marrige then should be for the one that is done for a business advancement to a girl younger than his children, not to two adults who happen to be in love, understnding and mutual respect. Good going Hiten and Khemi.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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The post of kukuraja is very well written and well said. Its definitely couldnt have been expressed better. 👏
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Opti


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Ronit is a fantastic actor which is why many of us like to see him on screen with anybody, even a girl as young as Santo. An incongruous story involving 18-50 is palatable because many of us think of this as fiction. By the same stretch of imagination why not also accept H-K, forgetting that there is a quirky relationship, because from what I have seen of the show so far, not once has the 'maasi-bhanja' angle been brought in. After all, this is a work of fiction and not real life, where, as the poster said, many of us cannot digest a relationship like that of DM-Santo.



My memory isn't the best so not sure if there were other moments but one clearly stands out...
Mongi tells Birwa she is Birwa's maasi!! So, although it has not been spelled out for Hiten and Khemi, the closest of their relatives have voiced the relationship quite clearly.

Oh, just remembered couple of other incidents. DM mentioned Khemi is a saali and Motiben mentioned Sambhu would be DMs sadubhai. Well, if Hiten marries Khemi then Hiten will be DMs sadubhai. Hmmmm....is Hiten a son ya sadubhai? kuch toh gadbad hogi na relationship mein! 😕

So best for creatives to find a way to unravel either Hiten or Khmei as an adopted child of their respective family. Then Hiten-Khemi can carry on their merry way. 😉

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Good idea, Mombs😆 Will the real parents of Hiten and Khemi step forward, please? I hope that they both don't have the same parents. Then it will really be odd for bro and sis to get married😉

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